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RG73
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| Texas_Pete wrote: | | considering that LBJ has the refs in his back pocket. |
What is the point of even watching the game or playing it if that were actually true?
If Lebron has the refs in his back pocket, then so does Bynum, because they draw fouls at a nearly identical rate.
Fortunately for me, I'm going into the game assuming that the players will determine the outcome. It's a lot more enjoyable than thinking that I'm watching a staged game. |
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gill2k
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: |
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The rest of the team better be prepared to back up Kobe on both ends of the floor.
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dna.
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I'm not gonna be a homer like many and call LeBron ridiculous names or try to belittle him. The guy is the real deal, like it or not. Yes, the media is on his jock way too hard, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the top-tier players in the league.
If we play like we've been playing recently, we will lose. I hope we step up and try to protect our home court against what is looking more and more like a team with a great chance of coming out of the East for this year's Finals. |
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GoldenThroat
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a little worried about foul trouble if that's the case. |
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kemi4kobes
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| Texas_Pete wrote: | LBJ is stronger than Paul Pierce, but I thought Ariza did a nice job on him. I'm thinking that Kobe and Ariza have watched film together on LBJ which should help in preparation of trying to slow him down.
OT: I'm actually more afraid of what Mo Williams will do to Fisher than what LBJ does!  |
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drzucchini
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| Flight#24 wrote: | And didn't luke defer back to Kobe when he could have taken an open shot, as a result Kobe took a forced 3 as time expired.   |
Aw (bleep), don't (bleep) remind me of that (bleep), man. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Who Guards LBJ tonight? "I will definitely," Bryant said |
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| Texas_Pete wrote: | | I also hope that LBJ sees a heavy dose of the "strong side zone" to keep him in check. |
Only if Ariza stays man to man on MO. Then there's Gibson, you never know when he's going to go off. And Delonte West's shooting over 40% from beyond the arc. Big Z hitting 50% from 3. Good thing he's not playing.
You know, looking at their team, I'm not liking our zone against them. In fact, right now I don't like our zone period. |
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lakers3810
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| Mitch Kupchak wrote: | Why do i not recall Luke doing a good job on defending LeBron last year?
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Alzheimer's setting in for Phil |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| I want to see the old defensive Kobe that totally shuts fools down. Bring it on Lebronze, welcome to LA! |
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drzucchini
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Who Guards LBJ tonight? "I will definitely," Bryant said |
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| Rick12322 wrote: | | And Delonte West's shooting over 40% from beyond the arc. |
I'm fairly certain he'll be shooting 0% today. |
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oldschool32
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Probably no Kobe guarding Lebron until crunch time, unless they want to see some early foul trouble.
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matrixskillz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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i think lamar actually has the best chance of guarding lebron because of his length and quickness. this would be a good game to start odom again.
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I really don't think Kobe can guard Lebron.
Lebron is stronger and faster.
All it takes is a screen and Kobe won't be guarding him no more.
I think Lebron will outplay Kobe today because the Cavs are a very good defensive team and that's why Kobe will struggle. The Lakers play garbage defense and that is why Lebron is going to go off.
I wonder if we will see the crab dribble tonight.
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KINGD
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| I hope whoever is guarding LBJ goes UNDER the screen. Make him a shooter. |
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THE_SHOES
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| Mitch Kupchak wrote: | Why do i not recall Luke doing a good job on defending LeBron last year?
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Aaaaa-men! I'm going to see if I can find the stats on that one, because somebody has lost there damned mind!
Wait!
Let me read further and see if anybody else has this already under investigation...
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THE_SHOES
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| Flight#24 wrote: | | Quote: | | "LeBron has never really guarded Kobe, but he has at times," Jackson said. "Kobe's wanted to guard LeBron, but we haven't always wanted him to guardLeBron. Last year, I thought Luke (Walton) did a really good job on (James). We have a variety of guys who can guard him." |
Didn't Lebron have 41 last time. And didn't luke defer back to Kobe when he could have taken an open shot, as a result Kobe took a forced 3 as time expired. |
Ha! Didn't have to read long! Jax must be on some kind of mind altering medication for his hip or something. What was he thinking saying something like that?!
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THE_SHOES
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't want Kobe guarding Bron Bron because of the potential for a mano-con-mano match. Jackson is right. Also as some others have said Bron Bron is one of "Dave's golden boys." The order to keep people off of the king has already been given even as we speak. Kobe will be on the pine in the first quarter with foul trouble. Under no strategic circumstances should Kobe be guarding Lebron in the opening minutes of this game...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Start Odom. Bring Bynum off the bench. |
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| Perfect Makes Practice wrote: | | Start Odom. Bring Bynum off the bench. |
For matchup purposes, I'd start the following lineup:
PG: Sasha vs Daniel Gibson
SG: Kobe vs Mo
SF: Odom vs Lebron
PF: Gasol vs Wallace
C: Bynum vs Iglauskas
2nd unit;
PG: Fisher vs Snow
SG: Ariza vs Pavlovich
SF: Radmanovich vs Szerbiak
PF: Powell vs Hickson
C: Gasol vs Varegao
Because of Cleveland lack of depth, they can take Odom off the second unit to guard Lebron, and still make headway with the second unit. No way Clevelands backups can match the energy of Ariza and Powell.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | Perfect Makes Practice wrote: | | Start Odom. Bring Bynum off the bench. |
For matchup purposes, I'd start the following lineup:
PG: Sasha vs Daniel Gibson
SG: Kobe vs Mo
SF: Odom vs Lebron
PF: Gasol vs Wallace
C: Bynum vs Iglauskas
2nd unit;
PG: Fisher vs Snow
SG: Ariza vs Pavlovich
SF: Radmanovich vs Szerbiak
PF: Powell vs Hickson
C: Gasol vs Varegao
Because of Cleveland lack of depth, they can take Odom off the second unit to guard Lebron, and still make headway with the second unit. No way Clevelands backups can match the energy of Ariza and Powell. |
Not bad, but I'd switch things up a little bit.
First off, I'd have Brian Grant guard Eric Snow. Sure, they play different positions, but since both of their NBA careers are over, it should balance out.
I'd also put Farmar on Ilgauskas. Again, yes, there's a difference of position, but since both are going to be wearing suits, I think that Farmar has a chance to hold his own fashion wise against Big Z. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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one of those times Odom is tremendously valuable to the team, guarding Lebron.
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Buck32
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | why the hell does phil always dance around kobe guarding the other teams' best player? so what if kobe wastes energy on defense. we should be fine on offense without kobe getting 30 pts. we're too talented. lo, bynum, gasol should be good firepower for our offense while we cut the head off the snake so to speak
back when we had little offensive talent, i didnt want kobe guarding the other teams' best player because we needed him to carry us on offense. now it isnt like that anymore |
Because Phil wants Kobe to have enough during endgame situations so he can bail his sorry ass because he can't coach close games. The tri may be holy but during endgames it's "give it to Kobe and get the hell out of the way" time. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| matrixskillz wrote: | | i think lamar actually has the best chance of guarding lebron because of his length and quickness. this would be a good game to start odom again. |
I was thinking the same thing. Trevor might be too frail against LeBrons big body. And then of course Kobe will subject himself to foul trouble from the refs if he is on him. Despite the impeccable defense. I would go with Lamar.
But we already know it will be Luke. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| KINGD wrote: | | If Kobe can hold Wade to 3-15 shooting why can't he do the same to a guy whose not as quick and who has a considerably worse jumper? |
Surely you can't be serious...
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| Drifts wrote: | | one of those times Odom is tremendously valuable to the team, guarding Lebron. |
It's like every bodies Momma has at least once told there child..."If You can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."
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