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Bballguru5000
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Your Top 10 favorite Jazz Musicians |
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Board, list your top 10 favorite jazz musicians of all time. If this has been already posted, I apologize.
Mine (in no particular order after Charlie Parker. He's my favorite):
1. Charlie Parker
2. Clifford Brown
3. Sonny Rollins
4. Lester Young
5. Art Blakey
6. J.J. Johnson
7. Coleman Hawkins
8. Hank Mobley
9. Dizzy Gillespie
10. Roy Eldridge
Edit: I edited the title to make it clear it's about who you like most, not necessarily who are the best.
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No Miles Davis or Coltrane?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | No Miles Davis or Coltrane? |
Yeah, THAT'S what I was thinkin'? Guru, you suspect now, bruh! 
To leave EITHER of those 2 off a jazz list is like leaving Magic and Bird off an all time greatest players list. Blasphemy.
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Bballguru5000
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I like Miles Davis and Coltrane. They're great jazz musicians obviously. But those are obvious choices people make. They weren't the best at their respective instruments.
We can argue this until the end of time, but Clifford Brown was just as great of a trumpet player as was Miles Davis. But he doesn't have the name recognition among casual jazz fans.
If you ask a casual jazz fan who their favorite jazz musicians are, they immediately list Davis and Coltrane. But with respect to both (and they were truly great), they were not the greatest. Of course, this is just an opinion. This is nothing we can prove, since it's subjective. |
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Bballguru5000
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| By the way, if this was a race, I'd put my money on a Cliff Brown/Sonny Rollins duo over a Davis/Coltrane duo. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe not the best,... but I like Miles, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Dave Brubeck & Roy Ayers (jazz fusion)... |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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(Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
| Quote: | | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer )
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Bballguru5000
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
| Quote: | | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
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| TACH wrote: | | Maybe not the best,... but I like Miles, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Dave Brubeck & Roy Ayers (jazz fusion)... |
This thread is not about who are necessarily the best jazz musicians. It's who are your favorite jazz musicians. Good choices, Tach. |
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| Good suggestions.... but let's not forget the inimitable Sidney Bechet. |
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | Good suggestions.... but let's not forget the inimitable Sidney Bechet. |
Definitely!  |
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| Bballguru5000 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
| Quote: | | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in on, and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs .
Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown "Coltrane's Sound" or "B|tches Brew," playa. Hell, you can even start with "Blue Train".
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Miles Davis
Coltrane
Brubeck
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| Bballguru5000 wrote: | | TACH wrote: | | Maybe not the best,... but I like Miles, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Dave Brubeck & Roy Ayers (jazz fusion)... |
This thread is not about who are necessarily the best jazz musicians. It's who are your favorite jazz musicians. Good choices, Tach. |
Okay... then I'll add two more Lonnie Liston Smith , and recent one for me, Pharoah Sanders.
I'm a sucker for that 70 smooth slow funk type jazz. Got that from my parents... they would play music all the time, I use to love holding and reading every inch of the record jackets... those things were works of art. |
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in . |
Oh, the irony.
I didn't say my opinion was the end all of all opinions. I simply listed my favorite jazz musicians, and then you chimed in about why I didn't have Miles or Coltrane in my list. Like you said above with your usage of the word "opinion." It's MY opinion.
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and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs.
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Why? Are you in the habit of listing choices someone else digs? Once again we come to subject of opinions. So yes, what I dig would naturally be my personal choices.
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[b]Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown... |
We're not arguing about a sporting event. Anyone can throw out the line "hit me up when you can seriously breakdown..." As if that proves you know what you are talking about. What are you exactly breaking down? All you're doing is giving more opinions. But now you think your opinion is the end all be all. The irony is not missed.
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| Bballguru5000 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in . |
Oh, the irony.
I didn't say my opinion was the end all of all opinions. I simply listed my favorite jazz musicians, and then you chimed in about why I didn't have Miles or Coltrane in my list. Like you said above with your usage of the word "opinion." It's MY opinion.
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and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs.
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Why? Are you in the habit of listing choices someone else digs? Once again we come to subject of opinions. So yes, what I dig would naturally be my personal choices.
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[b]Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown... |
We're not arguing about a sporting event. Anyone can throw out the line "hit me up when you can seriously breakdown..." As if that proves you know what you are talking about. What are you exactly breaking down? All you're doing is giving more opinions. But now you think your opinion is the end all be all. The irony is not missed.
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| Quote: | | I didn't say my opinion was the end all of all opinions. |
Then why'd you front like there's NO POSSIBLE WAY Miles and Trane couldn't be the GOATS at their respective instruments?
| Quote: | | Why? Are you in the habit of listing choices someone else digs? |
Well, BEFORE you changed the title of the thread, you said "Greatest". So I was going off your original thread title to where I laughed at how you wanted to make your PERSONAL PREFERENCE the END ALL LIST .
| Quote: | | What are you exactly breaking down? |
Which is exactly why I knew you wouldn't touch it, kid. See, I can smell 'em a mile away  . Look before you leap - playa.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: |
Then why'd you front like there's NO POSSIBLE WAY Miles and Trane couldn't be the GOATS at their respective instruments? |
Because in MY OPINION they were not. Like I said, we're not arguing about a sporting event. There's nothing you can measure when looking at these things.
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Well, BEFORE you changed the title of the thread, you said "Greatest". So I was going off your original thread title to where I laughed at how you wanted to make your PERSONAL PREFERENCE the END ALL LIST . |
I changed the title because I'm less interested about arguing with your types and more interested in hearing whom people like to listen to.
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Which is exactly why I knew you wouldn't touch it, kid. See, I can smell 'em a mile away . Look before you leap - playa. |
This is all you've got? Oh, you're going to have to do better than that because you've still not said a damn thing that leads me to believe you know what you're talking about. So far, all you've proven is that you know the names of two famous jazz musicians. Has throwing around word groups like "I knew you wouldn't touch it, kid" and "look before you leap" ever worked for you?
But looking at your posts in the Ali-Tyson argument, this will probably turn out to be another long-winded debate where we'll probably go in circles. |
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| Bballguru5000 wrote: | | But looking at your posts in the Ali-Tyson argument, this will probably turn out to be another long-winded debate where we'll probably go in circles. |
No, we're going to nip this one in the bud. No point going 'round in circles -- everyone just gets dizzy. You guys need to switch to an "agree to disagree" mode. (BTW, I have a definite opinion on this one, but I'm not going to fuel the fire.)
Back to the topic of this thread (notice the clean segue?), FAVORITE Jazz musicians, I have a real soft spot for a few people not mentioned yet, like Satchmo, Art Tatum & Fats Waller. |
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Back to the topic of this thread (notice the clean segue?), FAVORITE Jazz musicians, I have a real soft spot for a few people not mentioned yet, like Satchmo, Art Tatum & Fats Waller. |
Great choices, Larry. I also have a soft spot for Louis. One of my favorite jazz numbers is a live rendition of "Pennies from Heaven" by Satchmo. If the trumpet solo in that number doesn't move you, nothing in this world ever will. |
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Louis Armstrong (the legend)
Pat Metheny (the martian)
Bill Frisell (the alien)
Mike Stern ("better than slash")
Richard Bona (the mystical man from cameroon) |
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I've only really listened to 1. And he's a jazz guitarist. His name is Robert Conti. I would really like to get into more jazz though.
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| Kind of Blue.......nuff said |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Kind of Blue.......nuff said |
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Some other greats not yet mentioned:
Art Pepper, Cannonball Adderley, Gene Ammons, Milt Jackson, Jaco Pastorius, Wes Montgomery, Milt Jackson, Charlie Hunter, Ray Brown, Ron Carter, Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams... |
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And I can't forget about my godpops - Kenny Burrell.
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