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Will Kobe be MVP or MVP candidate next year? |
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AIRZOOMKOBE2k5 Star Player
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 1702 Location: Redondo
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: KOBE MVP? |
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Will kobe be mvp? |
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alphasigz67 Rookie
Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: |
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OH HELL YES!! And who voted NO?! |
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bumrusherer Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 7942 Location: The house that Ruth built
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:59 am Post subject: |
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no he wont... _________________ Lakers |
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sodapoppenski Star Player
Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 7364 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Maybe if we get a top 4 seed in the West. But I'd bet most on here agree we won't, at least not next year.
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Kobe-Wan Kenobi Starting Rotation
Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 545
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Kobes takin it to the next level this year... Yea you though he was at the highest level, but hes about to go beyond that this year, the lineup we have right now will not be our lineup going into the season, just wait... _________________ “These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess.” |
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HRE Star Player
Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Posts: 6933 Location: You can't see me
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:32 am Post subject: |
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alphasigz67 wrote: | OH HELL YES!! And who voted NO?! |
You'd be hard pressed to find that person since there's no option of "NO". _________________ Lakers |
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lakeshow03 Star Player
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3087
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: |
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i think even if lakers r winning and kobe is putting up kobe numbers,theres still so many kb haters that they still wont give it to him |
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Laker_Dynasty Franchise Player
Joined: 21 May 2001 Posts: 11831 Location: West LA
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:04 am Post subject: |
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This is hard to say without knowing if this current team is what we'll be going into the season with. That being said, the only way Kobe would be considered (by the politically biased MVP voting) for MVP would be if he lead this team to the best record in the league.
Even if he did that, there would be people bringing him down by indicating that it was because he had the help of Lamar and Kwame or because Phil Jackson came back this year. _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
Time for the Lakers to create a whole new legacy! We want 10 more trophies boys! |
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lakers*raiders Sixth Man
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 71 Location: southside crenshaw blvd, LA
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:51 am Post subject: |
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kobe jsut his personal skills and stats yes, but with the whole team outlook maybe not, but if shaq wins a mvp or the championship b4 us, im gonna be pissed, and i dont think kobe wants that either, so he'll work his ass of and probably lead the league in points.......wat were shaqs stats this past yr, wasnt it like way belows his career average??? |
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djb Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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lakers*raiders wrote: | kobe jsut his personal skills and stats yes, but with the whole team outlook maybe not, but if shaq wins a mvp or the championship b4 us, im gonna be pissed, and i dont think kobe wants that either, so he'll work his ass of and probably lead the league in points.......wat were shaqs stats this past yr, wasnt it like way belows his career average??? |
Affirmative. _________________ Los Angeles Lakers |
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Sonicc64 Star Player
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 4028 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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30/8/8 should do it. |
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lakers*raiders Sixth Man
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 71 Location: southside crenshaw blvd, LA
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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yah kobe is a great player but the team isnt as great rite now, i think kwayme mite get most improved player?????
wat ya'll think _________________ Blood piru goin getcha |
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Van-Exel26 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:25 am Post subject: |
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They need to at least when the Pacific division for him to get any consideration, and that's not going to happen with the Suns still around. You can have all the MVP numbers in the world but they don't mean anything unless you're a top 3 seed, just look at AI last year. |
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PinkTacos Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 100 Location: WestCoast
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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lakeshow03 wrote: | i think even if lakers r winning and kobe is putting up kobe numbers,theres still so many kb haters that they still wont give it to him |
I agree. There are too many Kobe haters out there for him to win the MVP.
Only way is if he gets a championship ring and get a serious numbers i.e., 29pts, 8 assist, 8 reb, 2 stl, above 47% FG and it might be possible. Just needs a better good supporting cast around him to pick up assist numbers and less double teamed.
But it looks like Mitch is starting off pretty good.... We will have to wait and see.
Not good with the numbers (contract wise) but MITCH get JRose, Lue, and TRatliff and we got ourselfs a contending team. At least Western Confernce Finals, IMO. |
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romeo1921 Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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No way in hell will Kobe win MVP this year. First of all he would have to be on a team that has a top 6 or 7 record in the NBA which ain't gonna happen. If everybody plays to their potential, nobody misses any time, and everybody picks up the triangle immediately the Lakers will be a 7th seed. Unfortuantely the Lakers have a roster full of players who have a histroy of getting hurt every year. Second, wasn't he the won that said the triangle offense puts restraints on his game. The triangle is going to take shots away from him which means his points are going to drop off from last year because he is not a high percentage shooter. It took him over 20 shot attempts per game to average 27.6 ppg and in the triangle he will probably be down to about 18 shots per game. In order to average 30+ ppg in the triangle (which is what he needs to even be considered for MVP) he would have to shoot 48%+ from the field which he couldn't do even when he had Shaq to take away three-fifths of the defense. Kobe won't even be on the ballot for at least 3 years. |
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tgf5 Franchise Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 11581 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: |
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If Kobe puts up impressive numbers, hit some buzzer beaters, and the team wins at least 45 games, he'll definitely be top 3 candidate. |
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#StayInYoLane Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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i would say he will be the mvp if the lakers make it to the 2nd round |
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djb Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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imcool wrote: | i would say he will be the mvp if the lakers make it to the 2nd round |
Why?
They don't award a 1st round MVP trophy. _________________ Los Angeles Lakers |
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LakeTownMob Rookie
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers need to be in the top five in wins for Kobe to get some mvp votes and you know there are still alot of haters out there, but if Kobe leaves no doubt that he Is the Man, then it could happen. |
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cr8zy0 Starting Rotation
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 820 Location: Los Angeles & Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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kobe all the way
he has a chance
his work ethic is amazing
if he explodes this season, then hell yes _________________ SMUSH FOR MVP |
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TruLAFan Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 324 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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That poll is Kobe bias, where is the no choice, thats BS. _________________ "Never talk to fools because they scorn the wisdom of your words" Nas. |
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startrex Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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He needs to be in his best at both ends.
If he can produce enough lucth shootings for more W's,
he will certainly be a STRONG candidate for an MVP. |
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AIRZOOMKOBE2k5 Star Player
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 1702 Location: Redondo
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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lakeshow03 wrote: | i think even if lakers r winning and kobe is putting up kobe numbers,theres still so many kb haters that they still wont give it to him |
yea..votes is wat count |
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sodapoppenski Star Player
Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 7364 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Sonicc64 wrote: | 30/8/8 should do it. |
True actually, I really doubt if Kobe posts 30/8/8 that he doesn't get the MVP, Kobe haters or not.
Still, I'm not so sure he'll post that either
With our front court being as young as it is, and our PG likely to be subpar given that AD is gone and Jaric is unlikely,,,
I actually won't be too surprised if Kobe is up around 30ppg. I'd just guess him more around 6/6 for the rest of his stats.
Oh and even at 30/8/8, we'd need to at least make the playoffs, if not move up a couple of seeds for him to be any kind of MVP lock.
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hkc213 Rookie
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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IMHO
ITS GONNA BE HARD FOR KOBE TO WIN BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THE LEAGUE ARE IDIOTS.
FOR SOME REASON THESE MORONS PUT KOBE ON ALL NBA THIRD TEAM LAST YEAR.
BASED ON TALENT AND ALL AROUND GAME KOBE SHOULD BE MVP EVERY YEAR. |
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