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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject:

Not sure if this was posted already or not:

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Cook Will Give Orlando Another Shot

By John Hollinger | ESPN.com

So why'd Orlando do the Trevor Ariza for Brian Cook (right) and Maurice Evans deal? Two reasons, both of which make sense.

First of all, they're dead serious about surrounding Dwight Howard with shooters. Ariza can't shoot, so he didn't really have a role on this team. Cook, on the other hand, can shoot like nobody's business -- he's a career 39.2 percent 3-point shooter. It's the only reason he's in the league, in fact. And since he can also play the frontcourt, an area where the Magic find themselves a body short after losing Tony Battie for the season.

But a second reason may loom larger. To me, the Magic make this trade only if they legitimately think they can win the East this year. And the fact they did tells me they truly think they can win it. Not in a "Maybe if things work out and the best players on the other teams get hurt and we get real lucky in close games" kind of a way, but in a "We're the best team" kind of way. And after starting 10-2 and beating Boston, they might be right.
Keyon Dooling out of size mismatches, and a backup power forward who can space the floor and keep defenses from collapsing on Howard -- Pat Garrity, with a 1.57 Player Efficiency Rating in 120 minutes and a half-decade long streak of single digit PERs, clearly isn't working out. I'm still not sure Cook is a Stan Van Gundy type of player because his D needs a lot of work, but for the 10-15 minutes a night Orlando needs him it may not matter

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject:

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Ariza will provide a MUCH better match up against the Suns, Mavs, and Warriors who love to run and gun. Arzia will bring defense and athleticism against these teams, when we need it the most. Cook was never a good fit against them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject:

LakerRush wrote:
if we traded cook for cash and a bag of cookies, i would be happy.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject:

Ariza's mother and I got into it two seasons ago at a Knicks game. I swapped my father courtside seats (hzm was with me and we were up high for the first half), when hZm and I went down low, Ariza's mom was shouting anti-Kobe stuff (all in good fun, but annoying). hZm and I turned around and got into it with her (nothing bad or disrespectful, all in good fun).

I almost forgot about that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject:

However It is sort of sad to see Cook and Mo go out the door. Thank you for yor services and good luck in Orlando
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject:

1on5 wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Ariza will provide a MUCH better match up against the Suns, Mavs, and Warriors who love to run and gun. Arzia will bring defense and athleticism against these teams, when we need it the most. Cook was never a good fit against them.


Also against Houston when Bonzi is abusing Luke and Lamar is at the 4.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject:

I love this trade, but some people are saying he'll guard the Lebrons, T-macs etc. How can he do that when hes coming off the bench and those guys are going to the bench? It makes more sense guarding Bonzi and Ginobli since they both come off the bench.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject:

AboveTheRim wrote:
I love this trade, but some people are saying he'll guard the Lebrons, T-macs etc. How can he do that when hes coming off the bench and those guys are going to the bench? It makes more sense guarding Bonzi and Ginobli since they both come off the bench.


1st units don't exclusively play against first units and benches don't exclusively play against benches. He's not going to get 30mpg or anything, but he'll be valuable in spots. If that means 15-20mpg where Kobe doesn't have to guard the opposing team's best swingman, that's a good thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject:

AboveTheRim wrote:
I love this trade, but some people are saying he'll guard the Lebrons, T-macs etc. How can he do that when hes coming off the bench and those guys are going to the bench? It makes more sense guarding Bonzi and Ginobli since they both come off the bench.


The Lebrons and Tmacs play 35+ minutes/game. If Walton, Vlad or Odom are getting eaten alive, Phil can put Ariza in to try and slow them down a bit.

Before the trade, the only option would be to put Kobe on them and just add something else to his plate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject:

B_P wrote:
YAAAAAAAAA FRICKEN HOOOOOOOO!!!!


B_P's list:
1. Smush - GONE!
2. Cook - GONE!
3. Kwame - ...


You only had to wait a few weeks buddy!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject:

Epic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Send this to the HOF
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Hell has frozen over - Lakers have traded to get Cook and Evans back for Ariza !!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject:

in an amazing trade the orlando magic have sent TA the silent assasin and the larry obrien trophy to the lakers for brian i am a horrible player cook and mo im hot now im cold evans!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject:

lakersboy wrote:
how does ariza help the lakers? he's a sf. they have enough sf's. i still dont think he's learned to shoot since he was a freshman at ucla years ago. maybe he'll bring a little defense but he wont play much when he's learning the tri.

trading mo means sasha, or karl, or critt become kobe's backup. why do the lakers want "filler"? they have the leagues best bench. why mess with the chemistry just so you can change the names?

sorry, ariza's had years to show what he's going to turn into and he hasn't done much developing since isaiah took him in the 1st round after 1 college year, several years back.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject:

SP_Fever wrote:
Hell has frozen over - Lakers have traded to get Cook and Evans back for Ariza !!!!



Yeah this thread title was a bit shocking at first sight. Done deal!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject:

eagles nut wrote:
Evans and Cook for just Ariza doesn't work cap-wise. They'd have to give us Augustine AND Gorcat also. Maybe we're waiving them though.


looks like it worked "cap wise"
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject:

LuxuryBrown wrote:
Sniper008 wrote:
So what does our roster look like now?


'Bout the same. Lateral move at best. Kobe must be thrilled.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject:

Oh man this thread is greatness.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject:

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