serious odom trade discussion

[ZerglingsRUS]

Although Kirilenko would help on defense, I don't think he would be worth Odom, even with the extra pick. Kirileko's defense isn't much better than Odom's at the 4. Plus, Kirilenko would struggle with the triangle offense. Kirilenko excels more in an open system, fast breaks, and put backs. He doesn't have a post game, which Odom is great at.

So, no trade. Lets see where this team goes in the playoffs, and perhaps evaluate the team afterwards. Now, if we can get Garnett for Odom, then Yes!

[tk421]

No. Next Question

[ZerglingsRUS]

Although Kirilenko would help on defense, I don't think he would be worth Odom, even with the extra pick. Kirileko's defense isn't much better than Odom's at the 4. Plus, Kirilenko would struggle with the triangle offense. Kirilenko excels more in an open system, fast breaks, and put backs. He doesn't have a post game, which Odom is great at.

So, no trade. Lets see where this team goes in the playoffs, and perhaps evaluate the team afterwards. Now, if we can get Garnett for Odom, then Yes!

[ZerglingsRUS]

Although Kirilenko would help on defense, I don't think he would be worth Odom, even with the extra pick. Kirileko's defense isn't much better than Odom's at the 4. Plus, Kirilenko would struggle with the triangle offense. Kirilenko excels more in an open system, fast breaks, and put backs. He doesn't have a post game, which Odom is great at.

So, no trade. Lets see where this team goes in the playoffs, and perhaps evaluate the team afterwards. Now, if we can get Garnett for Odom, then Yes!

[THE_SHOES]

[KobeBryant42pointsathalf]

[Hector the Pup]

With midseason trades, you have to consider the setbacks the offense suffers, especially in the triangle which relies on everyone knowing the spacing and how to move the ball, which means that even changing one piece sets the entire team back to remedial level.

Even if AK returns to what he was in the last couple of years defensively, there would still be a significant loss on the offensive end. Would his defense make up for that difference?

The ultimate question would be is the team willing to all but throw away this season and start all over?

At 13 games over .500 with two starters scheduled to return in the next two weeks, I just don't see it being considered.

[davidse]

[EHL_2]

Well, if you're being serious, I'll play along for a second...

For one, I don't think Jackson does it simply becaues he values triangle learning curve above all else and Odom now has roughly 1.5-2 years of experience under his belt. To let him go for AK would assume AK is a quick learner and would be comfortable in the triangle. That's an unknown. However you slice it, far and away the biggest problem with AK is having no experience running the triangle, at least from the Phil's perspective, which is obviously quite important.

Secondly, while AK could rebound as well as Odom and, though he's not known for it, pass comparably to Odom (in half court only, not on the break where LO is particularly gifted). Offensively he's not nearly as talented a scorer as Odom and has never been in his career. He's very quick and has good touch, but basically zero dribble penetration moves. He's a very, very poor man's Shawn Marion as a scorer. Not much of a jumper either.

Now obviously you'd do this trade only because AK is the far superior defender, and he'd add a minimum of 2.5-3 blocks ever game weak side, which is desperately needed at that position on this team. His impact as a team defender is well known and he is even longer than LO himself, and much quicker at rotating too. Because AK would vastly improve this team's currently 23rd ranked FG% defense and points allowed per game, you'd absolutely have to at least consider it.

The problem, however, ends up being how do you realistically think the trade will turn out? Will AK's longer and more expensive contract, compared to Odom, disable the Lakers' ability to resign key young players like Bynum or Farmar? Will AK learn quickly or go through the usual steep learning curve? Will he be that 2nd option offensively when everyone else but Kobe goes dry? And injuries are a concern too (though Odom hasn't exactly been an iron man himself).

In reality, the Lakers would consider it, but ultimately not go through with the trade. Of course I'm just guessing.

[PopcornMachine]

[davidse]

[kobe_somebody_odom]

for Kwame.... hell yeah, for Odom hell no

I want Bynum to continue to start anyway. More PT for Turiaf

[davidse]

[Runway8]

Now is not the best time to propose a trade. During winning time, we've got posters who would only trade Farmar for KG if Minnesota sweetens the deal with Trenton Hassell. I still can't get over the dillusion of that person.

Back in '05 when we sucked, I recall LG drooling over an AK47 for Odom deal. Now, I'm sure. We are really gelling and I don't trust Ivan Drago or Luke Skywalker as our second option. Lamar outplayed Shaw Marion and gave us life in that series. Pounding and scoring the ball inside. I don't see AK47 doing that for us. We get better defensively, but Odom isn't Brian Cook on defense, Lamar is decent. AK47's play isn't dominating enough to compensate for all that Odom brings and the risk of fixing something when it's not broke.

It's intriging and in reality, the lakers would have to give it serious thought. We're not in reality, we're in LG'ality. And in this world, you only propose these deals after a loss, not after a win.

[davidse]

[BLP711]

No.

Odom stays.

And he'll prove everyone of you non-believers wrong. Bank on it.

[Sidious]

Why do you guys insist on wasting your time. There's no way in hell the Lakers are trading Odom

[karlmalonefan]

[Pappy]

[Laker_Town]

okay, Im not even going to pretend I read through all the posts.(especially the first)

Why are we going to worry about making ANY trade at this point in the season,and after a HUGE win. Were in the middle of something big. Were witnessing good thing happening right before our eyes.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Odom is only available for KG at this point and I don't see that being explored till the summer with the Wolves playing better now and LO possibly under 100% for the indefinite future.
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[HBA]

David,

The thing about Odom that has EVEN myself looking forward to his return is that his game fits so seamlessly into what is going on right now.

He penetrates and creates plays, thus taking pressure off Bryant. He rebounds well and he defends well.

All the areas where the lakers are weak without him.

He basically fits right in. Unlike Kobe, who, although the leader, best player on this team and the guy that will ultimately carry us, he is not the jack of all trades that Odom is, whereby his skills fit right into the grand scheme so quickly.

Thats why I am looking forward to Odom's return.

I honestly expect this team to take it up a notch upon his return and PROVE to themselves and to the league that they can reel off a ten game winning streak.

Just solidify their status and prove to themselves that they are in the discussion with Dallas and Phoenix, without question.

It will give us uber confidence.

Itll be interesting to see what Odom does for this team.

[lamar7odom]

odom is a laker for life!!

[ajaxxx]

I would have done it maybe last year but right now he is playing horrible he might have some physical problem so NO!
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[Fan0Bynum17]

ugh, that's all i got to say about odom for ak.