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Free_Kobe
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| KobeDunk wrote: | Oh GOD! What bs like all the rest of the dumb trade rumors!
If all these so called experts were right we would have a team of
Boozer
KG
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Kidd
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dont forget CWebb, Earl Watson, Antonio Daniels and Derek Anderson coming off the bench
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LVLAKERFAN
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Radman/Farmar + expiring contracts of Mihm/McKie/Williams works.
Kidd/Smush
Kobe/Sasha
Walton/Evans
Odom/Turiaf
Bynum/Kwame
Nah, I'm happy with what we got.
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2Cleva
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I guess everyone forgets how much wood Phil has for Kidd.
Kobe for Kidd/Marion anyone?
Kidd can play on and off the ball. He even does that in New Jersey. And Kidd is quick to pass. This isn't Marbury where he's tatooing the ball onto the court.
But you guys know best of course.... |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| 2Cleva wrote: | I guess everyone forgets how much wood Phil has for Kidd.
Kobe for Kidd/Marion anyone?
Kidd can play on and off the ball. He even does that in New Jersey. And Kidd is quick to pass. This isn't Marbury where he's tatooing the ball onto the court.
But you guys know best of course.... |
Hey, I am a Kidd supporter..I think he would be great in our system and really help our D. (wish this was a poll thread).
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Free_Kobe wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | Oh GOD! What bs like all the rest of the dumb trade rumors!
If all these so called experts were right we would have a team of
Boozer
KG
Artest
Kobe
Kidd
by now! |
dont forget CWebb, Earl Watson, Antonio Daniels and Derek Anderson coming off the bench |
How can I forget Webber, its just 2 days ago that that pipe went away  |
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Baby G
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jason Kidd would be the missing piece but we can't afford him  |
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LuxuryBrown
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 1 - we are already contender status, but we would become elite with kidd. |
We won't be contender status until we get to the WCF again. Getting bounced in the 1st round won't cut it as "contender".
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LakerSanity
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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We already have this thread in the forum..this should be merged.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | Oh GOD! What bs like all the rest of the dumb trade rumors!
If all these so called experts were right we would have a team of
Boozer
KG
Artest
Kobe
Kidd
by now! |
with iverson coming off the bench. and we would have traded mckie and von wafer to get them. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But you guys know best of course.... |
Actually, we thought YOU did. 
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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yet the the trade that did go thru was Shaq for Brian Grant, Odom and Butler.  |
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| 24 wrote: | | The only triple double Kidd should be worried about is the 3 children who are having their lives ruined by 2 jerks. |
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KobeDunk
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Baby G wrote: | | Jason Kidd would be the missing piece but we can't afford him |
Last week it was Webber that was the missing piece now its Kidd.... At least its a different way of looking at our problems. PG or PF ! hmmmm
Wait till next week when Kidd gets traded to some other team and Vince becomes available! 
Can you say solid 2nd option? And Imagine Kobe vs Vince in practice having their own private dunk contest! |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Quote: | | 1 - we are already contender status, but we would become elite with kidd. |
We won't be contender status until we get to the WCF again. Getting bounced in the 1st round won't cut it as "contender". |
We are contender status simply because of nothing else but our record. Then if you add the other subjective factors, I think that adds some proof. Seems the media is jumping on our bandwagon more and more too.
I would say any team which has the top 3/4 record in the league is at contender status.
Does that mean we will win the championship? No. Does that mean we will "realistically contend" for it? Yes.
Maybe its just an argument on how we each define "contender."
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Jeez, can't we just enjoy out team the way it is? We are winning for petey's sake!! Why would we want to mess with any of our players (including those playing hurt like Rad?)....
Shoot if we are going to get Kidd, lets just go the whole way and trade Kobe for Kidd and VC!!!!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| LakersMDGurl wrote: | Jeez, can't we just enjoy out team the way it is? We are winning for petey's sake!! Why would we want to mess with any of our players (including those playing hurt like Rad?)....
Shoot if we are going to get Kidd, lets just go the whole way and trade Kobe for Kidd and VC!!!!
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aww, someone is sentimental...but true, we should and I think do appreciate them.
Its just fun to speculate and see where we can improve. At least we are limiting ourselves to a piece or two, not an overhaul like most other teams in the league.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | We are contender status simply because of nothing else but our record |
Regular season record means nothing. The playoffs is where you show if you're a contender and the Lakers have yet to show they are a contender, especially after choking a 3-1 lead.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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2. Kidd's Old. He's got two elite years left, if that.
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Two elite years is all we need from him.
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3. Kidd makes way too much money. A high 8-figure contract vs a low 6-figure contract for Smush. Farmar makes more than Smush. Anyway, let's love Smush Parker people, the reaper ain't finished yet.
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Kidd makes alot of money, but he makes alot and Smush doesn't for a reason.
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5. Jason Kidd is simply not a triangle point - he dominates the ball and can't shoot period.
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When has Kidd ever shown he can't be a triangle point. Phil and Tex think he can.
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To trade Kwame for him to make the salaries work would leave us with Bynum and Turiaf in the middle, which at this point in time, is not enough to compete in the West. This trade will never happen.
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Kwame is gone after next year anyway. But you are 100% correct, this trade will never happen.
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I could see making a move for Vince- I have read rumors that the Lakers would like to have vince in P&G, but not Kidd.
Pre-microfracture surgery, sure trade for Kidd, but he and his contract are damaged goods now.
Now a Kobe & Carter back court with LO initiating offense from the SF or PF spot!!! That would kick some arse!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, the facts are the facts: Kidd can't shoot and he dominates the rock = Not good for a Triangle PG. |
Just like Ron Harper, huh?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | Oh GOD! What bs like all the rest of the dumb trade rumors!
If all these so called experts were right we would have a team of
Boozer
KG
Artest
Kobe
Kidd
by now! |
You say that like it is a bad thing.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Quote: | | We are contender status simply because of nothing else but our record |
Regular season record means nothing. The playoffs is where you show if you're a contender and the Lakers have yet to show they are a contender, especially after choking a 3-1 lead. |
If record means nothing, then no one is truly a contender. It is the only objective variable available.
The fact we got to a 3-1 lead shows we are a contender. The fact we lost a 3-1 lead only means we choked (Smush Parker...had to thrown that in).
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: |
Dude, the facts are the facts: Kidd can't shoot and he dominates the rock = Not good for a Triangle PG. |
Just like Ron Harper, huh? |
Hmm? I take it someone doesn't remember Ron Harper pre-Laker days, do they?
Harper was NEVER a ball-dominant PG, in fact, he was never a PG until MJ came back and Phil moved him to PG. Also, Harp had a jumper...MUCH better than Kidd.
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Kwame is gone after next year anyway. But you are 100% correct, this trade will never happen. |
No he isn't.
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Quote: | | We are contender status simply because of nothing else but our record |
Regular season record means nothing. The playoffs is where you show if you're a contender and the Lakers have yet to show they are a contender, especially after choking a 3-1 lead. |
If record means nothing, then no one is truly a contender. It is the only objective variable available.
The fact we got to a 3-1 lead shows we are a contender. The fact we lost a 3-1 lead only means we choked (Smush Parker...had to thrown that in). |
Dude, nothing you just typed makes ANY sense.
You can't say the ONLY variable available is the regular season when you have the previous playoffs to go on.
And getting to a 3-1 lead doesn't mean jack. Ask Tmac. ...Were his Magic contenders back when they went up 3-1 to the Pistons? Nope.
Taking a "lead" in a 1st round playoff series DOES NOT make you a contender, especially if you can't close the deal.
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