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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: BUCKS -at- LAKERS - 11/28 - Thoughts and :-(( ratings

Z-Owned... The zone D befuddled the Lakers yet again, and we knew it was coming. Despite the supposed emphasis on it after the Detroit game, the Lakers looked clueless again as they lost 109-105 to an injured Buck team.

How bad was the Lakers execution? Look to the statline beyond the arc. The Lakers went 11-37 from three trying to shoot over it. That's pretty much their attack. No back screens, ball reversals without purpose, few ballfakes, few entry passes to the middle of the lane to get penetration and few interior feeds off dribble penetration.

"Penetration is the always the key in basketball," Phil said. "This team forgot about penetration. Either penetrate a seam in the zone or make an interior pass in the zone and then work behind it."

It was a sluggish effort and the Bucks cashed in for 109 points. Michael Redd led the way with 45 points. The Lakers had a lot of poor switches (or no switches) at times and may have doubled Redd only a couple times throughout the game.

Prior to the game, there was much talk about how we needed to feed the post and get the ball to our bigmen. Bynum, Kwame and Turiaf shot a combined 1-2 on the night in their 48 minutes at the center position. The only make was on the fastbreak. "Our bigmen didn't react to it (the zone) the way they should have reacted to it," Phil said. "And they may have been frustrated that we were just chucking up threes, too." Luke blamed it on the rest of the team. "We have to pound it down low," he said.


Kobe -- -- At a point late in the game, after the offense was struggling, Kobe just gave in to the weak execution and started bombing threes. He shot 6-14 from beyond the arc and 7-23 overall for 27 points. He also had 4 assists and was somehow only credited with 1 turnover. Defensively, he didn't bring his usual lockdown D against Redd and we paid the price (the team D was also very slow, at one point Kobe shoved LO to rotate to Redd, but it was too late). The Lakers had a chance to tie the game with 16 seconds after Kobe helped force a turnover on Redd in the backcourt. Out of the timeout our execution fell apart, Kobe pulled the ball back out instead of giving it back to Lamar who was the inbounds man, which was the plan (LO wasn't really open)...the Bucks ran a box-and-one zone with Patterson and Kobe missed a 30-foot three. That was pretty much the game in a nutshell. Early on, Kobe threwdown an oop from Smush off a cut behind the D (his only make of the first half). He had a couple early turnovers, loosing the handle on the dribble and losing the mustard off the hotdog trying to go behind his back to Lamar. He gave up a 4-point play to Redd out of a timeout. He dropped another ball out of bounds for a turnover. Kobe picked up Tech No. 2 of the season, complaining about a loose ball foul he felt he should have got. He missed a three over the zone. He attacked baseline against the zone and drew two FTs and a tech on Patterson, he hit all three. He drew a couple more FTs. Horrible D standing and watching as his man missed then got his own rebound to score. Poor first half by Kobe on both ends. He had 7 points on 1-7 shooting in the first half. Redd had 20 points on 8-17 shooting in the first half. He airballed his first jumper of the half. In the third, Kobe seemed to say "screw it" and just decided to shoot over the zone, swishing back-to-back threes. He drained another three from the wing and forced a Buck timeout. He missed his next three. He drew FTs and made both. He picked up his third foul of the third (fourth overall) and had to sit. Back in for the fourth after we dug another hole and he drained a corner three. On the next trip down, he knocked in another three from the wing. He missed a three on his next attempt. He attacked and fed LO for a score. He drained another three from the wing out of a timeout. He helped force a turnover from Redd who dribbled the ball off his foot, getting us the ball back while trailing by 3 with 16 seconds left. Out of the timeout, Kobe pulled the ball back out and bricked the 30-foot three.

Odom -- -- Lamar put together a decent statline with 21 points (8-16 shooting, 0-3 from three), 13 boards and 8 assists, just missing the triple-double. I think Lamar should have looked to get in the middle of the lane to get entry passes. He can hit a jumper, attack, or set up others with his passing. A triple threat with his size in the middle of the zone can cause problems. He posted up Patterson and scored easily on first touch. He missed a wing three. He attacked in transition off a Bynum block and drew FTs, making one. He attacked the zone off the dribble and scored a layup. He attacked the paint and drew FTs. He fed the post, cut and found himself alone under the hoop where he got a pass and drew FTs, making both. He had 9 points, 4 assists and 3 rebounds in the first half. He attacked the zone off the dribble, spun and hit a layup. He scored a layup off an interior feed from Kwame. He dunked when Farmar attacked the zone and fed him under the hoop. Sasha tracked down a loose ball and found Lamar for a score. Lamar scored a layup off another Sasha hustle play, this time a steal and pass from Farmar. A key play early in the fourth, Lamar got a rebound had it stripped by Redd, then fouled him on an And-1, then got a tech, giving up four points. After sitting, he came back in and missed a baseline jumper. He scored a layup off a drive by Kobe and went the floor with no whistle. He tried to cram in a putback jam instead of tipping it in to get the points and he missed, costly mistake with under 2 minutes left and we paid the price later.

Smush -- -- Great start to the game by Smush, then he seemed to be one of the guys struggling in the zone. He went on a tear in the first quarter. He got a lucky jumper to go, grazing the glass on the baseline before it dropped in. He wasn't paying attention on a Tri cut and got hit in the head with the pass from Luke. He attacked, took contact and banked in an And-1, he made the FT. Great lob pass to Kobe for a dunk after Smush recovered a loose ball. He attacked his man on the weakside, overpowered him and scored a layup. He lobbed to Bynum a little low on the break, but Drew still put it in. He drained a corner jumper standing on the three line. Great backdoor cut next time down against the zone as the ball went into the middle and Luke found him for a reverse layup. Good look to hit Bynum under the hoop for FTs. He swished a wing three. He missed a longer three straight away. He had 14 points on 6-8 shooting and was one of the few Lakers doing anything in the first half. He got burned badly for a layup in the second half. He missed his only attempt, and after the team started to struggle badly, Phil went with Jordan for the remainder of the game.

Bynum -- -- His pick and roll D was a little soft and he was also sagging back into the lane a lot. He did a good job anchoring the D and forced a number of misses. He erased guard penetration with a swat on the first defensive stand. He drew a walk on Patterson challenging a shot. He swatted Patterson trying to power up a shot. He changed two shots by Bogut on one end, then ran down court, called for the lob from Smush, it was a little low, but he still grabbed it and flipped it over his head for the score (probably the Laker play of the night). He was sagging off Bogut to zone up (illegally) in the lane a number of times and was called for it twice. He drew FTs when Smush found him under the hoop, he made one. He forced a travel, challenging a shot. He got another miss on a guard who tried to draw a foul. He was called for a charge, posting up Bogut (who flopped). He swatted Bogut on the other end, but Bogut scored on his second attempt. Good contest on the perimeter to force an airball. He finished with 3 points on 1-1 shooting, 5 boards, 3 blocks and just 1 foul in 19 minutes.

Walton -- -- Luke was pretty much disgusted with their execution against the zone. "It's getting bad. We are too good of a team, too well coached and have too much talent not to be breaking down a zone." Luke scored 14 points on 5-11 shooting (2-5 from three), grabbed 7 boards, dished 3 assists and had 1 steal and 1 block. Unfortunately, he led the Lakers with 5 turnovers. He grabbed a rebound off a bricked three and scored a layup. He missed his first three attempt, but swished his next from the corner. Nice find, hitting Smush who cut backdoor for a reverse layup. He airballed a three. He hit his fade from the left side. He threw a pass out of bounds. He attacked off the dribble and drew FTs, making both. He scored a layup after Kwame pulled down an offensive board and fed him. He missed a wing three badly. He hit a big three with 18 seconds left to cut the lead to 3 points.

Kwame -- -- With his activity, he should be able to hit the boards against this team better than he did. He pulled down just 2 boards in 25 minutes and scored 2 points (both FTs) with 3 assists. He rejected a shot under the hoop with a bit of nice help D presence early on. He posted up, took a feed from Farmar and drew a foul before he could dunk it, he made both FTs. He took the post feed and bounced it to Farmar who attacked the lane for a layup. He got blocked at the front of the rim. After pulling down an offensive board with 2 minutes left, he fed Luke for the score to cut it to 5 points.

Radmanovic -- -- He had 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 6 minutes. He did seem to be trying to move within the zone better than some of the other players out there. He finished with 4 points on 2-4 shooting, missing both threes he attempted. Nice cut against the zone to get open under the hoop for a layup. He threw a pass out of bounds (he's good for at least one bad pass a game right now). Nice block on D to get a 24-second violation. He clanked a couple of three attempts. He attacked off the dribble from the wing and hit a leaning layup. He attacked baseline and charged, he picked up three fouls and had to sit (one was a poor call when it looked like a clean block).

Turiaf -- -- Short stint in the first half. Phil went back to him late in the game. He helped contest a shot and got a miss. Other than that, nothing much to speak of.

Evans -- -- Steady game from Mo. He scored 8 points off the bench on an efficient 4-6 shooting (his two misses from three, of course) and he grabbed 4 boards in 18 minutes. He threw down a reverse dunk off a Farmar feed in transition. He got backdoored on the defensive end on the next play to give it back. He hit a 9-footer and a reverse layup to start the fourth. Redd was bombing threes over Evans when Kobe went out in the second half. He drew a charge on Redd who attacked off the dribble (Redd's fourth and he sat for a short stint in the middle of the fourth). He drained a 15-footer off a kickout from Farmar. He got another turnover on the Bucks on an illegal screen.

Farmar -- -- Jordan helped spark the Lakers in the second half and Phil went with him for the rest of the game. "It thought he ran out of gas there at the end," Phil said, "but he was instrumental in helping us comeback." Farmar led the bench with points, boards (5) and assists. He scored 10 points (but on 4-12 shooting, 2-8 from three), but it was his 7 assists in 27 minutes that were the real key. He probably played the best against the zone of all the Lakers on the floor tonight. He was able to get penetration with either the dribble or something like a ballfake and entry pass. Phil may defer to Jordan a little more if we continue with our zone D problems. He missed his first three attempt, then hit his next attempt next time down the court. He pushed up the break with speed and found Evans for a reverse jam. He missed a 75-footer at the buzzer (that one will go as a stat). He found Vlad under the hoop against the zone for a layup. He checked in for Smush midway through the third and quickly attacked the paint and fed LO for an uncontested score. He ran into a screen and gave up a layup on the defensive end. He hit a corner jumper as the shotclock went off. He ball-faked (effective against a zone to spread the floor) then gave Kwame an entry pass, which drew a foul. He scored a layup with a strong cut off Kwame who hit him with the pass from the post. He took a steal from Sasha and fed a trailing LO for a score. He attacked off the dribble and kicked it out to Evans for the open midrange jumper. He missed an open three straight away. Quick pass to Kobe on the wing for a three. He missed another wing three. He missed another three from the corner. He drained his next one to cut the lead to 4 with 50 seconds left. Jordan had career highs in assists, FGAs, three-pointers attempted, and minutes. "As I'm going along I'm getting more and more comfortable, learning more and more, just got to knock down some shots," Farmar said after the game.

Vujacic -- -- Some nice spark of energy off the bench for the Lakers tonight. The team was sluggish and when he and Farmar came in the game, they helped dig the Lakers out of the funk. He had 2 points on 1-2 shooting, 2 steals and 1 assist in 9 minutes. He grabbed a loose ball then found Lamar for a score. He got burned for a layup. Great steal in the backcourt on an inbounds pass, which eventually led to a Lamar layup. He got another steal on the next defensive stand, jumping a passing lane and taking it coast-to-coast for the layup. He threw a cross-court pass out of bounds in a key stretch of the fourth, thinking Mo was coming toward him, I guess. He missed a corner three.

Phil -- -- Hello? That was ugly. With all the home games and chances for working on this, they should have played much better against the zone. Teams are stupid not to run it against us until we raise our Hoop IQ. Expect a lot of it until we figure it out... Defensively, there were also some lazy breakdowns by our team that resulted in illegal D calls. We gave up 5 points from illegal D calls and another 2 points on techs from Kobe and LO. That is killer in a close game... Before the game, Phil wanted to make it a point to attack through the post. Never happened. Wasn't even close to happening... The Lakers had 10 turnovers and shot 3-14 from three in the first half. They had 9 turnovers in the second half and shot 8-23 from three... Phil subbed in Sasha and Farmar late in the third for Luke and Smush and the Lakers made a comeback... After the Lakers got the lead in the early fourth, they gave up a series of three- and four-point plays along with unforced turnovers to quickly trail by double digits...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject:

I can't wait til I grow old and have my own grandkids. I'll tell them the awesome stories of Kobe Bryant, and how on cold winter nights, if you listen carefully to the wind - you can still hear Kobe shoot ANOTHER 3-pointer.

This game was by far the most annoying game Kobe's had in some time.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject:

Kobe simultaneously kept and lost us the game ...
A strange game indeed ...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject:

DB - it appears that Phil is starting to trust the team to figure things out on the court. Sometimes losses are good (for teaching purposes?!?!) because it is very clear that the Bucks are a bad team and the Lakers (a much better team) just lost the game.

It's amazing how different the team's energy (and trust that exists between the other players that include Kobe) is when Jordan plays, as oppose to when Smush is in the lineup.

Any reason why Cook wasn't used in this game? It seems like the end of this game was tailored made for his 3-point shooting - especially since there was no presence in the paint from both teams?

How many players tried to guard Redd - Kobe, Evans, LO, etc. and none could do anything. Phil stated something during his interview about something that prevented the Lakers' "D" to doulbe-team Redd - anybody know what he said?

Phil mentioned that the "Bigs" should have a feast when teams play zone, what could Kwame/Bynum do to maximize their effectiveness?

btw: How can Kwame be blocked going for a dunk?!?!?!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject:

This is a horrible loss. The kind of loss that in the end of the season comes to bite you in the ass.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB.

That's the angriest I've been after a loss so far, but then again it's a young season.

Stupid basketball. Andrew came out looking great, contesting shots and getting rebounds. And what did the team do to reward his efforts? Freeze him out of the game.



No post entry passing... and it didn't matter if it was Kwame, Bynum or Lamar. Lamar in particular late in the game, because he was more than the Bucks could handle in the post, and unlike Andrew or Kwame, had more than enough touches to be primed and ready. I just don't get it.

The Bucks dictated the cadence of the game. For some strange reason, the Lakers decided that they wanted to challenge Michael Redd to a jump shooting competition, rather than work at breaking down the zone.

The game was almost winnable, but it had more to do with the competition than the Laker play. The Bucks have awful composure; they're not used to winning games, particularly on the road. And yet we gift wrapped it for them with that absolutely bone headed final meaningful possession with 16 seconds left. There was more than enough time to work for a better shot.


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Out of the timeout our execution fell apart, Kobe pulled the ball back out instead of giving it back to Lamar who was the inbounds man, which was the plan (LO wasn't really open)...the Bucks ran a box-and-one zone with Patterson and Kobe missed a 30-foot three.


Yes Lamar was covered. I'm outside of LA, so I don't get the postgame press conferences. Wasn't Lamar supposed to move? Unless the entire play was predicated on the man defending the inbound pass having a brain seizure, it made little sense. The Lakers simply cleared out for Kobe to take that last shot.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject:

Makes me glad I didn't watch.

Giving up over 60 points to the starting guards is already insane.

But lacking triangle execution, post passing, penetration, playmaking?

I was better off in a welding class.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject:

thanks DB. losses like these are always disappointing because this game was within reach, and I feel like we took ourselves out of the game by shooting the three too much.

A Mad Chinaman wrote:

Any reason why Cook wasn't used in this game? It seems like the end of this game was tailored made for his 3-point shooting - especially since there was no presence in the paint from both teams?


he has/had strep throat
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject:

I had great seats for this game so it was disappointing that they played so poorly. Kobe was frustrating to watch in the first half. I thought he was lucky to not get another T because he was doing the Sheed stare down on one ref while Redd was shooting his free throws. I think in the first half Kobe intended to shut down Redd while the other Lakers played offense, but if Redd wasn't scoring, Williams was.

Our big men didn't show up for the game. They weren't really open under the basket and they certainly were nowhere in the vicinity when it was time to get a rebound. I was hoping Turiaf would come in with a spark but he was no better at the others when it came to hustle. Cook, by the way, did not suit up. I think he is still sick.

They finally started to play with some heart in the fourth quarter but by then the Bucks were all in a zone.I think Gad could have made a 12 footer by that time if he wanted to.

You'd think that with the talent on our coaching staff we could figure out a zone defense better. They have until Thursday to figure it out.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject:

I was there. It was UGLY!

-I think enough has been said about the number of touches our bigs got- inexcusable.

-Why don't we run more plays for Odom? It was obvious that, last night at least, Odom was far and away our best offfensive threat-the Bucks had no answer for him at all. We should have rammed Odom down their throat in the same way we used Kobe all last year. In fact we should do this for at least the next couple months so Kobe can get his speed and explosion back.

-Kobe, Kobe, Kobe. Kobe isn't back yet folks. At least not the part of Kobe we all miss. He's slower and not as explosive - just looked pedestrian out there. Was the Clipper game an anomaly? I think it'll be the All-Star break before we see the Kobe we know (and are in awe of) back. Unfortunately, the Kobe that breaks the offense, forces too many wild shots or long long threes and overdribbles while 4 other Lakers watch, that Kobe is back. Oh, and the Kobe that plays lock-down D? We need to get him on a milk-carton, cause I haven't seen him in ages. And tell me the 12 or 13 second dribbling exhibition from the perimeter to the free throw line and back out wasn't really designed to get a heavily contested 30 foot three? Please? Our whole section was screaming, SCREAMING for Kobe to take it to the hole and get free-throws at least-with luck it could have been an and-1 situation. Then we could have fouled and put the Bucks at the line and been down by 1 or 2 with the ball and 6 or 7 seconds. Arghhh. I left Staples PISSED!

Sasha- if you have an open shot will you please take it? Really, it'd be OK. If you don't start shooting...lets just say I'm looking forward to reading about your 2010 Italian-League MVP award.

Vlad Rad- like his energy and movement- when his hand heals we're going to be happy with this pickup.

Farmar-he's gonna be good, but he's still uneven as of yet. He does at least try to run the offense.

Evans- good solid player. Wish he could dribble though.

We looked really bad. Boneheaded execution, too much Kobe-watching, lazy defense...it was awful. Redd had the most stoppable-looking 40+ game I've ever seen. I guess the team was just looking past the Bucks to the Utah game. I'll be at that one too-hope I leave Staples a bit happier on Thursday.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject:

Great recap DB. With 7 assists, it is time to start Farmar. I don't care about his 4-12 shooting. Move Smush to the bench and have him back up Kobe. Smush could be our energy player off the bench alongside Mo. Doubt it happens though.

And to think people laughed at me when I suggested that we could lose against Milwaukee. This team has a long ways to go. Hopefully this loss doesn't bite us in the arse when it is time for playoff seeding.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject:

DB,
Thanks for the breakdown. I truly believe that we thought we would just show up and get a win on the home floor. They took them for granted. This shows that you have to take every NBA team serioulsy. This is a game that we'll look back on and ask ourselves "How did we lose to them?" We need to do a better job against a zone. Anybody who has played basketball knows that you have to attack the zone by penetrating the "teeth" of it. I don't know if we'll beat the Jazz Thursday, but I know that our effort will be there. We can't lose these type of games at home because we'll be playing a lot of road games over the next couple of months. These types of losses are the most frustrating.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject:

People seemed to be getting angry at me yesterday when I said Redd could go for a lot of points and the Bucks could actually win this game. I hate being wrong.

I lay the blame on Phil. Yes, the players execute. The players did not play defense, but at one point they were up 10 in rebounds.

The problem is the zone, as so many indicated here. How could such a great coach as Phil and his crack staff not teach these players what to do against the zone? Time after time the Lakers were lost against it, and not just the new guys, but Odom, Kobe, and Walton did not know what to do against the zone.

I was trying to avoid anything having to do with the Lakers today because of this loss, but I had to come in here and vent or else I wouldn't have a good day, and I hate going without LG for an entire day.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject:

Kobe's season fg% went from 50% to 46% after last night.

I don't like when Kobe goes in his 3 point mode. Sometimes I just hope he never gets hot from downtown cause once he makes 1 or 2, theirs no doubt hes gonna hoist up alot more. Absolutely pathetic game by Kobe. He needs to be smarter with his shot selection especially considering his age and experience. We were down 5 with like 2 minutes left...and he jacked up another quick 3 pointer instead of going for a 2 pointer.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject:

We win ugly, then we lose uglier. After a quick start, the Lakers bogged down and got suckered into playing the Bucks perimeter game. 2 shots for our centers?

Kobe dominated the game, but unfortunately, in a bad way. Getting torched on one end and laying bricks on the other.

Nothing really positive to say. This was a game they should've handled easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject:

Just a all around ugly game. The refs didn't help much either. Odom was constantly hit going to the basket. The Bucks were allowed to get away with using moving screens for the whole first half of the game.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject:

A few things.

1) Taking that many 3's even if you make 40+ % of them is not good because it isn't in the context of the offense. It is a cop out to actually working hard and beating the D with the Triangle.

2) Subbing in Kwame for Bynum for that long a stretch hurt the Lakers defensively. I saw far more layups once Bynum was on the bench. I don't think benching Bynum as much as Phil did in this game helped .. certainly not the way Kwame was playing (non-factor)

3) Walton and Farmar also made alot of poor decisions IMO. 13 three pointers combined for them is a bad stat. Luke also had way too many TO's.

4) Bynum + Kwame = -13 on average against a soft Bogut. Unacceptable. Very upset about that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject:

Klone_dd wrote:
We win ugly, then we lose uglier. After a quick start, the Lakers bogged down and got suckered into playing the Bucks perimeter game. 2 shots for our centers?

Kobe dominated the game, but unfortunately, in a bad way. Getting torched on one end and laying bricks on the other.

Nothing really positive to say. This was a game they should've handled easily.


agreed....

M.F. U g l y loss...

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hopefully we can learn and not go here again...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject:

I had my own bball game to play last night, good thing I didn't watch it. I would have been frustrated after reading some of the entries here.

Thanks for the breakdown DB. I hope they pick it up against the Jazz. Need to avenge the loss...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject:

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Thanks for the breakdown DB. I hope they pick it up against the Jazz. Need to avenge the loss...

Yep.

Why I think the Jazz game is huge - a win against a team that is better in standings (and probably better at this point in the season) makes up for a game lost that should have been won.

I'll get over this one real quick if we can beat the Jazz on thursday. Since it's on TNT, I think the Lakers bring their A game ....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject:

we play badly in longer stretches than we play well....we will get killed when we hit the road if this continues
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject:

PHILLIP NEEDS TO START EARNING HIS PAYCHECK OR HE NEEDS TO PAY DR BUSS $2,000 A GAME FOR HIS EXTRA PADDED COURTSIDE SEAT
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject:

I think this might be one of those situations where Phil sits back and wants to see the team figure things out and learn from their mistakes the hard way (losing). Of course one could say a coach shouldn't do that, but if I'm right, it's a roll of the dice that can pay off towards the end of the season. Let's face it, humans learn the hard way...better this team learns now than later.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject:

I was actually worried that we'd lose this game, or any game against a supposedly bottom-feeder, at our house. After all these years, Phil still hasn't taught his players to focus when it's hard to focus.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject:

LAL25 wrote:
I think this might be one of those situations where Phil sits back and wants to see the team figure things out and learn from their mistakes the hard way (losing). Of course one could say a coach shouldn't do that, but if I'm right, it's a roll of the dice that can pay off towards the end of the season. Let's face it, humans learn the hard way...better this team learns now than later.


Phil wants his players to play from behind. Admittedly, it's a lot more pressure that way, but I really don't know that it helps in the playoffs. I mean, I recalled the 03-04 team playing behind a lot, and they still got kicked out in the playoffs.

When all is said and done, it's all about being the most talented team. Our best hope is that our young players continue to develop to the point where we'll be such a team by the playoffs.
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