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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- SUNS - 5/6 - Thoughts and :-(( ratings

Scorched, Toasted, Roasted and Burnt... The Lakers got smoked early -- picked apart on both ends by the Suns. They settled for jumpers and threes, didn't feed either of Lamar or Luke in the post much and they took a beating. They were never really in this one, although they cut the lead to 10 late in the first half. The Lakers shot 27 threes in the game. That won't get you a W against the Suns.

This series was lost in the offseason when the Lakers didn't bring in a serviceable veteran point guard. You could even go back further to drafting Cook over Barbosa, who torched us once again tonight. Throughout the year, the team had late-game breakdowns and suffered from experience at the point. The series was in their hands late in game 6 and now the Lakers will spend all summer thinking about two possessions: First, an offensive possession where we ran a Kwame-Smush pick and roll for some reason in the last minute and turned the ball over. And, second, a defensive possession where we couldn't pull down a board or protect against the three.

It felt like it was game six or bust. The Lakers seemed to play like it. Their heart must have been broken in that last minute of game six, because they played with little heart in this game. Sad to say.


Kobe -- -- Off and On game from Kobe so we will give him the "Dizzy" smilie. He scored 23 in the first half on efficient shooting, then turned the guns off in the second half for 1 point on a couple of attempts. Strange game. He finished with 24 points on 8-16 shooting, 4 boards, 3 turnovers, 1 assist and 1 block. He hit a turnaround from the wing for the Lakers first score two minutes in. He missed a three with the shotclock low. He attacked the lane and drew a foul on Raja for FTs. He posted up, spun in the lane and hit a short jumper. He ran a pick and roll with Kwame and fed him for FTs. He attacked off the dribble, spun to lose Bell, then banked a one-hander. He hit a three when the Suns messed up a Cook pick and pop. He hit a tech FT. He drained an open three over Marion. He had a four-point trip, hitting a tech FT and then draining a long pull-up three. He drew an offensive foul trying to free himself up in the post. He missed a three. He switched on Nash and contested a drive to get a miss. Kobe hit a bail-out long wing jumper with the shotclock going off. He swished a wing three. Kobe had 23 points on 8-13 shooting (4-6 from three) at the half. After 5 minutes, Kobe took and missed his first shot, a three. He missed another fading three against the shotclock. He got called for a charge making a cut. He tried to pass a ball off the backboard to himself and was called for another offensive foul. Kobe took just two shots in the third, one he had to take to beat the shotclock. Phil put him on the bench as the fourth drained on. Incredibly passive second half.

Odom -- -- Lamar didn't get into the post as much as we needed. A shame, because as soon as he gets there, we know how the sounds will respond and can run cuts and counters to pick them apart...or let LO go to work. He finished with 12 points on 5-14 shooting, just 5 boards and 2 assists. He let Nash score a scoop on a post up type of play. He missed a shot in the post over a double team and wanted the foul. He posted up and powered in a layup. He contested a Barbosa layup, took an elbow to his mouth. Next time down, he drilled Barbosa on a corner three and gave up FTs, not smart. Tim Thomas drew a tech from the bench saying something to LO. He attacked off the dribble and got tapped on a layup. He attacked again next time down and scored a layup going to his right. Good switch on the Nash pick, sagging to make the post man give it up, then contesting Nash's three to get a miss. Lamar had 4 points on 2-8 shooting at the half. He attacked off the dribble and drew FTs, making both. He posted up, finally, late in the third, drew the double and hit Kwame for a dunk. He grabbed a Sasha miss and put it back in. He got the ball in the post again and hit a short jumphook.

Smush -- -- Well, you put a guard like Smush as your starter and you better expect the up and down games he had. In the end, it cost us. Tonight was no different. He shot 4-13 and 1-6 from three for 9 points. He did have 5 boards...he and Sasha actually were among the Lakers best on the boards. Smush also had 4 assists, 3 turnovers and 3 steals. Kobe's advice to loosen up Smush was to tell him to let the shots fly. Probably not the best thing for the Lakers to do. The Lakers actually posted up Smush twice in this game and twice drew illegal 3-second D against the Suns. Hmmm. Here's an idea, why not do that a little more? On to the play by play: Smush found Kwame under the hoop for a layup. He took a silly perimeter jumper off the dribble early in the offense and missed. He hustled for a offensive rebound and reset the offense. He stole a Nash pass and dunked on the other end. He took a quick three and missed. He missed a three at the end of the first quarter. He posted up Nash and drew an illegal D. Nice extra pass to Kwame under the hoop for FTs. He missed a three on a kickout from Kobe, but he knocked the ball loose from Nash on the other end to get it back. He attacked Barbosa off the dribble and scored a layup. He missed a short turnaround over Nash. He missed a three, got the ball back, attacked and scored a layup. He stripped Marion in the post and Javie whistled a foul from behind the play, but another official over turned it for a jumpball. We posted up Smush and drew another illegal D. He hit a catch-and-shoot three. Nice entry over the top to Luke for an easy score. Defensively, it was the typical stuff where we switched a lot. But, we were never in this game to have that really exposed at the end as the Suns would have likely done. I would have liked to try to make Nash a shooter in the second half after he twisted his ankle. It looked like it threw Nash's lift off a little on his shot.

Kwame -- -- Kwame missed a lot of chippies. Thing is, we were better in this series when we set Kwame up off other post players drawing doubles...or when Kwame crashed the boards when other player were posting up. We also didn't look to set him off of seals and ball reversals to get him good position. In the end, he shot 2-10 for 8 points and 5 boards. A bit of standing around on D by Kwame at times. He missed a jumphook. He scored a layup after bobbling a lob pass. He found Luke under the hoop for a dunk. He threw a pass away as the offense stalled. Kwame missed a jumphook. He made a couple FTs off a pick and roll with Kobe. He missed another jumphook. He drew FTs under the hoop and made both. He had 6 points on 1-6 shooting and 4 boards at the half. He missed a turnaround and follow-up tip. He fouled on the other end and Phil yanked him just barely into the third for Turiaf. Kwame looked miffed on the sideline. He dunked when Lamar drew the post double and found him. One of the rare times we actually set that sequence up.

Walton -- -- I'm going to give Luke some props for being one of the few to have an effective game. I think our team suffered quite a bit when we didn't dump the ball into Luke in the post. He's good with the ball in his hands and often had a mismatch. And, when he would miss a post up shot, guys like Kwame or Lamar were often able to get putbacks or reset the offense with a board. We barely looked to Luke in the post in this game and we paid the price again. Luke finished with 16 points on 6-13 shooting, hitting 2-3 from beyond the arc. He also grabbed 5 boards. He missed a layup off the corner Tri sequence, he wanted a foul. He dunked off a Kwame feed. He telegraphed a post entry out of a timeout. Lakers never got Luke the ball in the post when Barbosa was on him in the first quarter. Can you say stupid? He hit a wing three to start the second half. He posted up, missed, but we got it back. He missed a three. He swished a wing jumper. He posted up and banked in a turnaround. He swished a baseline three. He posted up, was fronted, took the high entry and scored a layup. Luke turned his season around quite a bit with some solid play late in the season and in the playoffs. Not sure whether they will still start him next season. It will be likely depending on what they do in the offseason.

Cook -- -- Cook played 13 minutes and shot 11 times, hitting on 4 for 8 points. He grabbed 4 boards and had an assist. He missed an open three off the pick and pop. He faked his next three, attacked off the dribble and scored. He missed a layup, got it back and scored. He hit an open baseline jumper. He missed a pull-up jumper. He hit a turnaround from the elbow. He went 0-3 from beyond the arc.

George -- -- Yeesh. Not much from Devean in this game. Barbosa blew past him for a layup. He missed a corner three. He missed some more. He stripped a ball off Barbosa's leg. He didn't score on 4 attempts and had 3 rebounds in 15 minutes.

Vujacic -- -- Sasha played till the end and scratched out 6 points on 2-6 shooting, going just 1-1 from beyond the arc. He went 6-6 from the line and led the Lakers with 6 boards. He stole a cross-court pass. He missed a long two. He drained a three from the sideline. He attacked and missed a layup. He attacked and drew FTs. He ran out in transition, got a bounce pass and was fouled for FTs. Sasha cut down the lane, took a pass and scored a layup. He drew more FTs and knocked them down.

Bynum -- -- He got some late PT, missed an up and under move. That was all his action in 1:52 of playing time.

Turiaf -- -- Ronny got 12 minutes and shot 1-3. He grabbed 4 boards and was whistled for a couple of fouls. He came in early in the third when Phil benched Kwame. He quickly tapped in a miss at the rim as we got penetration. He fouled Diaw under the rim. He missed an elbow jumper. He missed a putback jam. Ronny got a little taste of the playoffs. Hopefully, he can work on his game in the offseason and start to really click in the Tri next season.

Phil -- -- The team showed little fight today and played with little purpose. Phil did a good job to have them take the Suns to game 7 or even come within a possession of winning the series. But, they sure got dismantled today, and they are one of the few teams to be up 3-1 in a series and lose... The Lakers went down 16-6 as the Suns ran pick and rolls and got a few up-tempo looks. The Lakers trailed huge, by 17 points, after the end of the first... Both teams took the same number of shots in the first quarter, the Suns just made twice as many... Phil went with a Cook, Lamar, Kobe, Sasha, Smush lineup in the second after Barbosa was lighting them up for layups... Lakers were starting to settle for threes and Phil called a timeout down by 12 with 2:47 left in the half. We went to the post, drew a foul, but couldn't work it back in, and Kobe hit a jumper at the shotclock buzzer. From that point, they got outscored by 5 to close the half and trail 45-60... The Suns had 30 points in the paint at the half to the Lakers 20... Kobe had 23 on 8-13 shooting, the rest of the team had 22 on 9-30 shooting... After missing a post up, Kwame fouled on the perimeter and Phil benched him 2 minutes into the half for Turiaf... Phil called a timeout early in the fourth. Out of the timeout, we pounded the ball to Lamar for an easy post score. Seems like he was stressing to get the ball to Lamar out of those timeouts, whenever he took them. For some reason, we didn't pound it much to Lamar the rest of the game... Phil put Sasha and Turiaf in during the fourth to get them some playoff time...

Mrs. DancingBarry -- -- Once again, I need to pay tribute to the Mrs. for putting up with me covering these games. It's a long season and I take notes on every minute of nearly every game. Combine that with the time to do the report and it adds up. So, thank you Mrs. DB and all the other spouses out their who are Laker widows or widowers throughout the season.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject:

DB what kind of changes do you expect in the summer? i'm hoping Mitch gets Kobe some help.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully Smush Parker is gone, cause we all KNOW that his egotistical ass WILL NOT condone being a bench warmer.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Very disappointed with the fight we put up.

Phil may do some things well, but apparently motivation isn't one of them.

Oh well.

And DB, my sincere thanks for the reviews this season. I know it takes a lot of time to write these and just to let you know, your effort would put the Lakers' to shame.

Now for an offseason of pondering "what ifs..."

Oh well, September isn't that far away, is it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject:

i'm not going to comment on the game. Thanks DB and Mrs. DB for the final time this season. I also want to thank all the other LGers out there who were loyal and made this season very memorable. lets keep our fingers crossed at a great off-season. Im so devastated it isnt even funny. take care.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject:

Now the hardest thing about the next 3 or 4 days is going to be avoiding watching or reading any media on this series so I can avoid the "Suns offense is unstoppable" and "Nash's (bleep) don't stink" coverage.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject:

Have you ever watched, anxiously, for a famous magician to do his favorite trick,...then,... it just flops, bigtime...

I think that's how most of us felt... We expected the secret, magical Laker Gods, that Phil communes with, to do their thing... Isn't this how some ancient civilizations have vanished??... Praying to the "Rain God", to bring the life giving rain, only to be treated to but a Sun-drenched desert, where we are left to perish...??

Kwame can now engage in his first love, in the hotels, surrounding the Staples Center, ...and I trust that his hands won't fumble...??
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject:

DB -- Thanks to you and the missus (because any regularly scheduled project requires support from the spouse) for the constant info stream this year.

BTW, I think you could have also borrowed the classic from "Good Morning, Vietnam": "Shot, F*****, Powder-burned, or Snakebit..."

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Don't blame anyone it was a team effort

You really can't blame the lakers demise on any specific player although many people would pin it on smuch parker and kwame, but everyone has to realize that these are both very young players who have never been in this kind of situiation. we should keep smush sign him like to a 3 year deal
maybe as a backu, if he would accept that role, but if he feels like he is a starter we should look else where(speedy claxton).

i am going to see how kwame progresses this summer and we will see how much he works on his game. the thing he really needs to do is have someone throw him the ball 500 times daily so that he can learn how to catch.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't blame anyone it was a team effort

babaktokhi wrote:
You really can't blame the lakers demise on any specific player although many people would pin it on smuch parker and kwame, but everyone has to realize that these are both very young players who have never been in this kind of situiation. we should keep smush sign him like to a 3 year deal
maybe as a backu, if he would accept that role, but if he feels like he is a starter we should look else where(speedy claxton).

i am going to see how kwame progresses this summer and we will see how much he works on his game. the thing he really needs to do is have someone throw him the ball 500 times daily so that he can learn how to catch.


The did well. They were literally a possession away from upsetting the No. 2 seed and playing in the next round. Not bad for a team this young.

Smush definitely needs to be a backup. If he can't handle it, then yes he should go elsewhere. And, I would also blame the Lakers a bit for giving him that starting role taste before he earned it.

What Kwame should do is pick up juggling. Maybe try to go through Tri sequences in his head while juggling. Seriously. It would be good for the hand-eye coordination and concentration.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject:

it's a learning process...we learned that Kobe is high-grade beef as well as lay-low lamb.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject:

KOBE 2.0 wrote:
DB what kind of changes do you expect in the summer? i'm hoping Mitch gets Kobe some help.


A new starting PG. That's first on the list. Don't know if it will happen via MLE or trade or what. The ideal would be a vet who can play D and hit an open J...but that may not be available.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject:

I didn't watch the game. I figured it would be heartache. I don't feel as bad after tonight's loss simply because I didn't watch the game. After game 6, I punched my television set after each defensive lapse which we conceeded a layup or a triple. Seeing as we gave up 60 points per half, I think my hand would be broken. It looks like there was nothing Kobe could do tonight, as it appears the whole team gave up.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject:

Great analysis as always, but I think Luke was ineffective. His stats are misleading - he made a few buckets during some garbage time. At one point, he was 2-10. I think he really hurt us in this game.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject:

Normandy wrote:
Great analysis as always, but I think Luke was ineffective. His stats are misleading - he made a few buckets during some garbage time. At one point, he was 2-10. I think he really hurt us in this game.


Luke wasn't the only one, but in this game, he sometimes looked like he was someone leaning on a lampost, and eating a box of Cracker Jacks... Like many Lakers, he didn't look like he was totally in the game. Maybe, they were watching those little I-Pods, with the little t.v. screen??
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB, for this and every other game report this season. Your work here is valuable, insightful, unique and selfless. That you even did one for this pathetic display tonight is beyond the call.

BRAVO for all that you gave us this season.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Thanks, DB, for your MVP season...
and thanks to Mrs. DB and your kids...
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject:

Thanks so much, DB. For us non LA-based Lakers fans, your insight is truely great to read when we can't catch the games.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject:

Nice job DB.

MVP: Mrs. DB... and you too DB, of course.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't blame anyone it was a team effort

DancingBarry wrote:
The (Lakers) did well. They were literally a possession away from upsetting the No. 2 seed and playing in the next round. Not bad for a team this young. Smush definitely needs to be a backup. . . blame the Lakers a bit for giving him that starting role taste before he earned it. What Kwame should do is pick up juggling.
DB - thanks for the time that you've dedicated to the breakdown, it is (as always) greatly appreciate while providing substantial folder for substantive and tangible dialogue on the Lakers' performance.

DISAPPOINTMENTS
Beyond the obvious, a comment was made by Rick Buehler (?!?!) of ESPN on why didn't ANY LAKER give a hard foul to show that he won't be a cakewalk driving down the paint for point-blank layups?!?!?! I agree with this statement

There was no "fight" in the Lakers when they were being "punked" by the Suns - Kobe must have been seething inside wondering where all the passion went from his teammates. Next year's team need some players who have this passion/drive/will/need to win.


DEFENSE
There were so many missed coverages, it wasn't even funny. Though was guilty of some of the mistakes, it is hard for a 6'11"/7' C/PF to guard Diaw at the top of the circle - especially if he is making his 15-20' shots. On the other hand, what happened to Smush - AGAIN

ANALYSIS
The Lakers played to the best of their ability - though their early playoff performance gave us visions of going much further.

The Lakers (7th seed) pushed the Suns (2nd seed) to 7 games. The Lakers played great for the first 3 1/2 games, but they didn't have the mental toughness and experience to continue at this high leve - typical of their entire season (lack of consistency).

As Kobe stated, the Lakers couldn't play any better while the Suns demonstrated that they had another gear to go to.

Kobe deserves more kudos for his play considering that they were not going to comeback exclusively on his shoulders - that it needed the entire team (especially defensively). The course of action was to get his teammates involved/producing offensively that would provide them the energy on defense/slowing the tempo/eliminating the number of times the Suns are on offense. If the Lakers had gotten to around 10 points down, it would have been Kobe time!


FUTURE
PJ stated that major decisions will be made regarding next year's team that will take place in a couple months

Guards:
** Smush - He is a back-up guard or he can be a starting guard of a 2nd tier team somewhere else.
** Aaron McKie - wish him well
** Jim Jackson - interesting choice that will be made right before the start of the preseason
** Sasha - this 22 years old 6'7" guard has the potential to be a good guard in time (despite opinions of many) since he fits the requirements of a guard in "The Triangle"
** Kobe - I think he will be back next season
** Profit - He would be a good addition, if there is room
** Von Wafer - sling-shooter if he can ever be dependent on

Forwards
** Turiaff - the brotha plays with passions and smarts - Kobe will be working out with him during the summer. He will be back.
** Luke - depending on who they obtain during the off-season, he is a good player for the "3" and/or for the 6th man responsibilities
** DGeorge - this unrestricted FA can be a good part of next year's team at the right price. If he feels that he is looking to be a starter - along with the appropriate salary demands - wish him well

Centers
** Bynum - our future
** Mihm - good player for us and/or good trade bait to meet one of the team's needs.
** Brown - considering that this was his first season of playing regularly, he has shown the promise of greater things in the future

fyi: When Nash was asked about Kobe, he stated he never knows what to expect from Kobe - GOOD. When asked about the Lakers, it appears that he "respected" the Lakers but (reading between the lines) didn't think much of their talent.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't blame anyone it was a team effort

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DB - thanks for the time that you've dedicated to the breakdown, it is (as always) greatly appreciate while providing substantial folder for substantive and tangible dialogue on the Lakers' performance.


You're welcome. This gives me a good chance to thank you and all the other regulars who post in this thread throughout the season. There's been a lot of well-thought out posts by you guys. And, I don't think I've had to edit or mod a single thing in this thread all season. Good job by all of you guys. I am afraid if I start naming you all, I will accidently leave off a name...so I won't try.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB, I really appreciate your insight and dedication.

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Don't blame anyone it was a team effort

DancingBarry wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
DB - thanks for the time that you've dedicated to the breakdown, it is (as always) greatly appreciate while providing substantial folder for substantive and tangible dialogue on the Lakers' performance.


You're welcome. This gives me a good chance to thank you and all the other regulars who post in this thread throughout the season. There's been a lot of well-thought out posts by you guys. And, I don't think I've had to edit or mod a single thing in this thread all season. Good job by all of you guys. I am afraid if I start naming you all, I will accidently leave off a name...so I won't try.


He just doesn't want to admit his undying adulation for my posts.


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB! Your Thoughts and Ratings is always the first piece I read after every game, and overall it is the best recap. To me, it is even better than those written by the AP writers that gets circulated to the mainstream media. You've done a great job this season, and I hope you will continue doing this next season.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject:

Im ashamed at the effort they displayed last night. Biggest game of the season and they end up playing their worst game of the season.

Kwame looked like his former self. Before he was playing decent. Bobbling passes, watching a rebound go by his head. What a dissapointment.

Same could be said about smush. What the hell happened to this kid?

The only good thing I seen out of this game had to be Ronny Turiaf. Im excited for him and look forward to seeing his progress next season. Kobe said in a post game interview, he expectsto put turiaf under his wing this summer. Sounds good.
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