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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Please forgive me Smush but..

Mike James will opt to become a free agent this summer, said yesterday that he would not necessarily demand a long-term contract when he and his agent begin to negotiate with teams at the end of the season.

James, who has been the constant target of speculation by the media as to whether he will return to the Raptors next year, said that a three-year deal, with a player option in the third year, may be the ideal contract for him, rather than a four, five or six-year deal, which is what most free agents request.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2006/04/16/1536612-sun.html

Now Smush I am in your corner, but this is purely business.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject:

Take a shot a Terry to see if he even bites...then offer MJ a 3 MLE deal.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject:

we dont need jason terry or mike james. sure they sound great. but jason terry is unattainable, and mike james just seems way too complex, along with the financial considerations.

id much rather have jameer nelson, earl watson, or chirs duhon as my pg because they have great attitudes, are passing pgs, and they arent media whores like james. we dont need a star pg like terry, a pf like boozer would fill everything we need downlow. a defensive role playing pg like nelson watson and duhon is hard to find, but thats where we should focus our efforts.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject:

How are Jameer Nelson, Earl Watson, and Chris Duhon more attainable than Mike James or Jason Terry? Terry and James are FAs. Jameer Nelson is a big time baller and Orlando would never trade him...same with Duhon. Watson is possible but isn't he on like a 5 yr deal?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject:

CBaller8 wrote:
How are Jameer Nelson, Earl Watson, and Chris Duhon more attainable than Mike James or Jason Terry? Terry and James are FAs. Jameer Nelson is a big time baller and Orlando would never trade him...same with Duhon. Watson is possible but isn't he on like a 5 yr deal?


i never implied that they were more attainable, i was merely noting that i would much rather focus on a player like them over someone like mike james. we dont need a star pg like terry or james just a roleplaying pg like watson or duhon.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject:

Jason Terry isn't a star...he's a solid all around PG. Lakers definitely do need one of those. What about Marcus Banks? Lakers should take a look at him as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject:

If the Lakers are still on the 08 Plan then Mike James can only be offered a two year deal with a TEAM option on the third.

Sounds like Mike James wants to put up MASSIVE NUMBERS in oder to sign an ever bigger deal in two years. Does not sound good.


Chicago finally clinched a playoff birth after getting the 4th seed last year.
They have Hinrich and Gordon. You have to be on crack to think Duhon is not available for the right price.

They have a defensive PF in Chandler. But no true C that can score in the post. Which would allow Chandler to play exclusively at the PF and roam around for rebounds and put-back dunks.It would give Hinrich,Gordon, and the rest of the perimeter Bulls better looks.

Oh they have Sweetney. He can score in the low post against shorter PFs. Maybe a bucket or two then he needs oxygen and a seat on the bench.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject:

they-perch wrote:
we dont need jason terry or mike james. sure they sound great. but jason terry is unattainable, and mike james just seems way too complex, along with the financial considerations.

id much rather have jameer nelson, earl watson, or chirs duhon as my pg because they have great attitudes, are passing pgs, and they arent media whores like james. we dont need a star pg like terry, a pf like boozer would fill everything we need downlow. a defensive role playing pg like nelson watson and duhon is hard to find, but thats where we should focus our efforts.


How many times does this have to be said? The Lakers don't need a passing pont guard. They need a defender that can shoot the jumper. This has been said all season long and yet people still talk about passing poit guards.

Every successful pg in the triangle has been a converted sg.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject:

CBaller8 wrote:
Jason Terry isn't a star...he's a solid all around PG. Lakers definitely do need one of those. What about Marcus Banks? Lakers should take a look at him as well.


Im new here but:

Jason Terry>>>>>>>Marcus Banks

IMO mike james would be a good fit if the price is right!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject:

Mike James has an attitude and would mess up team chemistry like Chucky Atkins.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject:

kobenbynum wrote:
they-perch wrote:
we dont need jason terry or mike james. sure they sound great. but jason terry is unattainable, and mike james just seems way too complex, along with the financial considerations.

id much rather have jameer nelson, earl watson, or chirs duhon as my pg because they have great attitudes, are passing pgs, and they arent media whores like james. we dont need a star pg like terry, a pf like boozer would fill everything we need downlow. a defensive role playing pg like nelson watson and duhon is hard to find, but thats where we should focus our efforts.


How many times does this have to be said? The Lakers don't need a passing pont guard. They need a defender that can shoot the jumper. This has been said all season long and yet people still talk about passing poit guards.

Every successful pg in the triangle has been a converted sg.
dont we have odom for that when it comes to passing.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject:

Terry would be a perfect fit, but yeah, both him and James will command too many $$$ for us. My bet is Smush is our guy again next year unless we pull a major trade that nets us multiple players. One other scenario I can see is getting someone who is somewhat equivalent to Smush on the cheap who takes up some of the minutes Smush is getting now. Someone like a Bobby Jackson.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject:

kobenbynum wrote:
they-perch wrote:
we dont need jason terry or mike james. sure they sound great. but jason terry is unattainable, and mike james just seems way too complex, along with the financial considerations.

id much rather have jameer nelson, earl watson, or chirs duhon as my pg because they have great attitudes, are passing pgs, and they arent media whores like james. we dont need a star pg like terry, a pf like boozer would fill everything we need downlow. a defensive role playing pg like nelson watson and duhon is hard to find, but thats where we should focus our efforts.


How many times does this have to be said? The Lakers don't need a passing pont guard. They need a defender that can shoot the jumper. This has been said all season long and yet people still talk about passing poit guards.

Every successful pg in the triangle has been a converted sg.


heres the key, we dont NEED a passing pg. at the same time we really would be putting to waste a pure pg like brevin knight (im not at all suggesting him).

I merely bring up duhon and watson because they have good work ethics and attitudes, smush really doesnt have a great attitude. most importantly, duhon and watson are GREAT defenders. if they happen to have some playmaking skills even better. im not sure but if i remember correctly duhon played sg at duke, and doesnt have an attitude problem where he would mind playing off the ball more. if it was so easy to find a cookie cutter tall pg who played great defense, had a jumpshot, and 3pt range then we'd already have one. you take what is at hand.

having another player on your team with playmaking skills, a good head on their shoulders, and solid passing is nothing but an asset. in a system like the triangle you need players who know where to be, how to run the offense, and how to keep people involved. early in the season the coaching staff remarked on how sasha was one of the better players w/ the triangle. smush doesnt fit, and doesnt really work that great in it. spacing, ball movement, passing all of that is essential and a player like chris duhon can handle that.

merely making a point that we dont need to bank on a player like mike james, someone even as simple as marcus banks who brings solid defense is an upgrade. focus on getting another big man through trading mihm, a pick, and cook, (ie boozer). even this team is a contender imo, kwame/boozer/lamar/kobe/banks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject:

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