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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- NETS - 3/17 - Thoughts and :-(( ratings

Poor Execution... With 21 turnovers, it's amazing the game was as close as it was. The team was careless with their offensive possessions, managing just 70 shot attempts on their way to the 92-89 road loss against the Nets.

The Nets took advantage of a hot hand in Krstic, who scored 26 points on 11-15 shooting. "Krstic was just way too active for us all night," Phil said. The Lakers also had a hot shooting bigman in Brian Cook, but only managed to get him 6 attempts.

The Lakers came out of the half sleepwalking. After a couple minutes of scoreless ball, Phil benched everyone but Kobe. The Nets took the quarter 26-16.

Late in the game, the Lakers allowed a key putback at the rim after getting a miss. "We had our opportunity to make a stop and have a chance to win the ballgame, but we just couldn't make the stop," Phil said. On the other end, we had plenty of time to run a play to set up a three to tie the game and we ended up hoisting up a long prayer from Kobe.


Kobe -- -- A weak shooting game from Kobe, taking 24 shots to make 24 points (9-24 and 4-4 from the line). Kobe did set a new season-high in assists with 11 on the game. Unfortunately, he tied his season high in turnovers with 7. Still, good job setting up teammates throughout the night. He certainly had some highlight passes, including alley-oops to both Smush and Lamar. He lobbed to Lamar on the break for a dunk. He spotted Cook on the wing for a jumper. He hit a baseline jumper from the corner. He hit a jumper, pulling up quickly on the weakside cut off a Lamar bounce pass. He attacked and kicked out to Sasha for an open jumper. He swatted Carter's jumpshot. He spotted Smush streaking down the floor for a layup. He ran the two-man with Cook and set him up for a three. He hit back-to-back wing threes and drew FTs to close the first half. In the second half, he spun in the post, got the lob pass too far under the hoop, but found JJ while still in the air for a jumper. He hit a turnaround over a couple of players on the baseline. He hit another turnaround on the baseline. He posted up Kidd and drew FTs on a swing through. Nice steal stepping into the passing lane, then he lobbed to Smush on the break for the highlight reel reverse jam. He hit a wing 20 footer to start his fourth quarter scoring. He missed one from the other side. He posted up Kidd and finger rolled at the rim for two. He missed another fading jumper. He charged into Collins for the second time of the game. He missed a three. He attacked the baseline, hung and banked. He attacked and kicked out to Smush, who hit the clutch three. On the final play, Kobe missed a horrible fading three attempt off an even worse offensive sequence -- a make sends the game to overtime. "It was a great read by them," Kobe said. "They sent out all small, so they were able to switch everything. They took the play away from us." The game certainly wasn't lost on one play. Kobe has taken just 13 FTA's in the past four games.

Odom -- 8) -- Another good game by Lamar with 18 points on 7-11 shooting, 13 defensive boards and 6 assists. He had some clutch scores in the fourth. Too bad he didn't provide any spark in the third, when we were struggling...Phil sat him with the rest of the guys when the Nets went off to a 9-0 run. Early in the game, Lamar dunked on a lob from Kobe on the break. He stepped into a three and knocked it down. He flashed to the strongside, threw a bounce pass to Kobe, cutting behind him for a jumper (nicely timed and executed Tri play). He dunked off a feed from Bynum. He set up Kwame from the post for FTs. He dunked when Kwame found him on the break. He scored down the lane on a mini-Jordan play, showing the ball high, then pulling it down to his off hand and scoring off the glass. He posted up and drew FTs. He got back in transition D and roofed Carter for a block. Nice D on Jefferson, smothering his shot for an airball. He took the ball in transition, switched directions, then dunked down the lane. He finger rolled at the rim off a Luke feed. He drew FTs, made one with 2 minutes left.

Smush -- -- Some clutch plays by Smush in the fourth and he also had the highlight dunk of the night. He scored 13 points on 5-10 shooting, had 3 steals and did a great job on the defensive glass, pulling down 9 boards. He stole the ball from Carter and led the break, which resulted in a Lamar dunk. He attacked the lane, drew a foul and made both FTs. He attacked the lane and set up Kwame for a dunk. He rebounded, outlet the ball to Kobe, then ran the floor, got it back and scored a layup. He attacked Vaughn off the dribble and scored high off the glass. Kobe connected with him for a big time Smush-a-loop in transition, throwing up the lob and Smush after it and reverse jammed. He faked the three, pulled up and knocked down an FT jumper. Huge clutch three from the sideline with 34 seconds left to cut the lead to one. Good game from Smush, nice to see a little mental toughness in the clutch.

Kwame -- -- We certainly missed going into Mihm to establish the post in this game. Kwame had 5 points on 1-2 shooting and 4 boards in 30 minutes. He dunked off a Smush drive and kick. He swatted Kidd in the lane to ignite the break. He tried to throwdown with two-hands and drew a foul, making both FTs. He busted out on the break, had to fight for the outlet pass and threw it back to Lamar for a dunk. He posted up and drew FTs, making one. Nice post D on Krstic on one sequence, not giving up space and getting a travel call. Kwame gave it back in the post on the other end when he was called for a charge. The Nets were able to run some simple pick and pop plays with Krstic and be very effective in this game.

Cook -- -- Cook had a hot hand, scoring 11 points on 4-6 shooting (3-4 from beyond the arc). He did suffer from some foul trouble in the game, but when he was in there -- aside from one early stretch where he scored 8 points -- we did a poor job getting him the ball. He scored 8 of his points in a 1-minute stretch of the first quarter. He got one basket during his other 20 minutes on the floor. Just a poor job of milking the hot hand by the Lakers. In that one stretch early, Cook hit a wing jumper from behind a screen. He swished a three from the other side a step behind the arc. He grabbed a pass from Smush, didn't hesitate and knocked down another three from a step behind the top of the arc...an 8-0 run by himself that forced a Net timeout. He hit a wing three off a pick and pop game later with Kobe.

Walton -- -- Good game by Luke. He led the bench with 11 points on 5-9 shooting and grabbed 6 boards. He played steady ball down the stretch. He posted up and hit a turnaround fade over RJ. He missed a layup, Bynum tapped it back to him and he used his body well to shield the defender and score. He hesitated, then attacked off the dribble in semi-transition for a layup. He attacked and found Lamar for a layup. He swished a three from the corner to cut the lead to two. Nice putback at the rim of a miss by Lamar. "If we don't start winning these games, we're going to find ourselves out of the playoffs again," Luke said

Vujacic -- -- Sasha played 12 minutes and scored 5 points on 2-4 shooting. He had 1 rebound and no assists. He hit an 18-footer off a Kobe kickout. He was fouled on a breakaway and made one FT. He had the ball stolen from him trying to create off the dribble. He hit a baseline jumper. He missed a three in early offense.

Jackson -- -- A brief JJ appearance, playing 4:18 and scoring 2 points. He fumbled the ball, then kicked it to Sasha who hit a jumper. He swished a baseline jumper when Kobe found him by kicking out a lob pass.

Bynum -- -- He got the ball in the post, surveyed the floor and found Lamar under the hoop for a dunk. He got three rebounds in 7:40 of action and didn't score on two attempts, one was a rush job in front of the basket to try to beat the buzzer at the end of the quarter.

Turiaf -- -- He started the fourth quarter on Krstic. He fouled Krstic right away when he got beat off the dribble. He then gave up an And-1 getting over powered in the post. Not a good match up getting beat by speed and then by size. We clearly could have used Mihm in this game.

Phil -- -- The Lakers were trailing by three with plenty of time left to set up a play, and we ended up with a long fading three attempt by Kobe at the buzzer, not even close. "It was designed to get an adequate shot," Phil said about the final play. "It started out wrong and we still had another timeout. Unfortunately Lamar didn't call it or restart the play." The Nets Jason Collins said, "The coaching staff did a great job. They told us what they were going to run and came up with a defense to stop it." ... Once again, we had to fill minutes normally played by Mihm with either Bynum or Turiaf...even a little Cook at center tonight. In close games, these injuries are costing us... The Lakers were in the bonus with 9:44 left in the second quarter. Clearly a good time to make an effort to manufacture points. This is the kind spot where Mihm could have had one of his stretches of shooting 6 or more FTs himself with his activity inside. They got 4 FTAs from Kwame, 2 FTAs from Kobe with 1 second left. The Lakers never really pushed the issue in that quarter... It took 3:10 for our first basket coming out of the half. Phil then went to a Bynum, Walton, Kobe, Jackson, Sasha lineup, benching several starters... The Laker, of course, also miss George, who is with them on this road trip. Asked about George's injury, Phil said "It's getting better, we just can't put a date on."...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject:

I don't know... I'm just so depressed... I feel numb, from seeing some of the same mistakes, over and over.

There are some improvements... All Lakers look like they're getting to know one another better, on the court. Everyone is trying to get into a rhythm. What I see, is too much hesitation.. Instead of moving the ball in the natural flow of the game[to the person most open], players look like they are deferring to Kobe[passing to Kobe, instead of the open man], which takes up time, and destroys the natural rhythm that the team is trying to maintain.

Opponents are torching us, in the paint. Every team is doing a "slice and dice" routine on us, slicing to the basket, or just "out-banging" us, on the boards. It's painfully clear, that we still lack that bigman, that will dominate the paint.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject:

Are you sure you don't want to write how it was all Kobe's fauld? :roll:

Great job again DB!!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Blah thats my opinion on this game.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject:

Kobe's belief in himself cost him at the end of the game. He takes a contested 30 ftr when he had LO and Cook wide open on the other side of the floor. Oh, well.

More 3rd Quarter blues coupled with a carryover from the Minny game in terms of turnovers. Bigs who can hit perimeter shots still give Kwame a problem.

At least we're still getting good consistent production from LO and Luke.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject:

a few notes:

- again we refuse to feed the hot hand. Brian Cook was on fire at one time. Dont know why we didnt continue to give him more shots. Also Odom was hot during a stretch too and I seen him actually calling for the ball numerous occasions and he never got it. Really frustratung to see.

- Smush Parker is a horrible passer. He throws the laziest passes ive ever seen.

- Kobe was the momentum breaker tonight. Every time we'd get a good run, he would just ruin it with a horrible shot.

- Luke and Odom have been busting their assets off these past couple of games. Nothing but love for them.

- I did not like that last shot Kobe took. Cook and Odom was wide open waiving their hands while they were wide open ...yet he still forced the shot while being smothered by Vince.

- Even though Kobe played like crap, he did have a good defensive night. He stucked on Vince even when Vince was too afraid to guard Kobe. Actually Kobe has been playing great man to man defense these last couple of games. Just needs to get his offense back on track.

- rookie or not...Bynum looks absolutley horrible. I didnt realize he was slow as molasses. Was expecting a little something better considering he was playing in his hometown.


We really need Mihm back if we want any hope of making the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject:

Why wasn't Kobe on Vince on the Nets last play? Seemed like Kobe got caught ball watching. He wasn't close to anyone on Vince's drive and when LO went to cover up for Luke, there was no one to put a body on Kristic.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject:

KobeButler good notes man
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject:

Klone_dd wrote:
Why wasn't Kobe on Vince on the Nets last play? Seemed like Kobe got caught ball watching. He wasn't close to anyone on Vince's drive and when LO went to cover up for Luke, there was no one to put a body on Kristic.
I think the team was in zone defense
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject:

Klone_dd wrote:
Why wasn't Kobe on Vince on the Nets last play? Seemed like Kobe got caught ball watching. He wasn't close to anyone on Vince's drive and when LO went to cover up for Luke, there was no one to put a body on Kristic.
Lakers were in a 2-3 Zone with LO in the middle. Kristic just happened to be on Kobe's side. In a zone defense, it is hard to "block-out" If one look at the stats, all the players had good numbers - except for Kobe on his shooting percentage - HOWEVER - way too many TOs with sloppy passes. On the last play, Luke took TOO LONG to get the ball to Kobe and when he got the ball, LO was out of his eyesight (read - behind his line of vision). On my TiVo, couldn't see where Smush was at - but hey, who would you want to take the shot - Smush or Kobe?!?! Does anybody remember KG's comments stating that he should have taken the last shot instead of Marcus Banks who airballed the shot?!?!?!?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject:

The lakers made Nenad Krstic looks like an all star.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject:

I'm curious as to how fans can (bleep) about "missing going into Mihm and establishing the post" when they dont even try with Kwame. The whole "kwame focus on defense" thing is (bleep) bc the guy is going to play d regardless. If you need to establish the post, establish the damn post. Kwame's going to draw a double off his size alone... Ignoring him on offense is whats hurting this team...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject:

703Soulja wrote:
I'm curious as to how fans can (bleep) about "missing going into Mihm and establishing the post" when they dont even try with Kwame. The whole "kwame focus on defense" thing is (bleep) bc the guy is going to play d regardless. If you need to establish the post, establish the damn post. Kwame's going to draw a double off his size alone... Ignoring him on offense is whats hurting this team...


have you seen kwame with the ball in the post?

heres what usually happens.

1. holds onto the ball till clock gets to 3 seconds.

2. rushes shot and misses badly.

3. powers in but commits a charge.

4. he commits a turnover by either dribbling off foot or gets smacked out of his hands.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject:

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Just needs to get his offense back on track.

I haven't been able to see many recent Laker games, but just looking at the FG percentage makes me wonder if Kobe's playing hurt out there and this is throwing off his shot.

Which would make the horror of momentum-killing shot selection even moreso...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject:

Klone_dd wrote:
Kobe's belief in himself cost him at the end of the game. He takes a contested 30 ftr when he had LO and Cook wide open on the other side of the floor. Oh, well.

More 3rd Quarter blues coupled with a carryover from the Minny game in terms of turnovers. Bigs who can hit perimeter shots still give Kwame a problem.

At least we're still getting good consistent production from LO and Luke.


I didn't get to see the game, but it says Kobe got the ball with like 3-5 seconds left, would it be possible for him to find the open player, deliver a pass to the 'other side of the floor' and for that player to get a decent look? Once again, I'm not saying Kobe should've taken it, but I didn't get to see it so I'm clueless as to what exactly happened.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!

The Nets are a bit soft in the middle. It's a shame the Lakers didn't take advantage. I was hoping for a good game for Kwame. It was very sloppy.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject:

I sure to miss profit. I dont think kobe would be this tired if he was still around
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject:

Man, Kobe is in a slump right now and it's the most important part of the season. He should've passed the ball on the last play. I guess he wanted to be the hero. LO had another good game. Smush and Luke also played well. Everyone else .
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject:

I thought this road trip would be 1-2 or 2-1. Toughest game - Jersey. Boston and Cleveland toss ups.

We definitely missed Mihm's consistent 10-12 points in the post.
Kobe's shooting % is hurting the Lakers.
Apart from Odom, can anyone rebound on this team?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject:

we could've had a chance to win if kobe passed it to lamar. he was wide open and he's really starting to hit down 3's
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject:

Melon Tea wrote:
we could've had a chance to win if kobe passed it to lamar. he was wide open and he's really starting to hit down 3's

Noway.

Lamar sucks and the only guy on this team that can make a shot is Kobe Bryant.

It isn't the first time that the team has gone to Kobe taking a tough last shot over an open teammate.

And it certainly won't be the last.

Phil used to set up different players in other season's. This year, he seems all to happy to just give Kobe the ball regardless of the predictability of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
Melon Tea wrote:
we could've had a chance to win if kobe passed it to lamar. he was wide open and he's really starting to hit down 3's

Noway.

Lamar sucks and the only guy on this team that can make a shot is Kobe Bryant.

It isn't the first time that the team has gone to Kobe taking a tough last shot over an open teammate.

And it certainly won't be the last.

Phil used to set up different players in other season's. This year, he seems all to happy to just give Kobe the ball regardless of the predictability of it.


Lamar sucks? Surprising coming from you, wolf.

LO, over the last 7 games, is shooting 14/24 from 3-pt land. And has made some clutch late 4th Q baskets recently.

In the replays, Kobe got the ball late, but by the time LO had circled around him, there were 4 seconds left on the clock. Both LO and Cookie were waving their arms and clapping for the ball.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject:

I miss Robert Horry
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. I'm glad I missed this game but I'm glad I got quick recap w/o the crap.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject:

21 TURNOVERS?
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