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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:19 pm    Post subject:

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Jimmy Butler even with all that weird personality he has, he’s a exciting play to watch when he plays at a high level, the playoffs will not be the same without him and his great winning mentality


Exactly... Play-in does more harm than good. They want extra ratings?

Well they just lost a lot of ratings in the playoffs without Butler and possibly ZION.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:19 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:24 pm    Post subject:

CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message


I didn't even watch any of the games today. Sucks to come here and read that Butler got hurt in a game that he wasn't required to play 4yrs ago.

Playoffs just lost Butler and possibly Zion... How's that for your viewership ratings in the playoffs?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:25 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Jimmy Butler even with all that weird personality he has, he’s a exciting play to watch when he plays at a high level, the playoffs will not be the same without him and his great winning mentality


Exactly... Play-in does more harm than good. They want extra ratings?

Well they just lost a lot of ratings in the playoffs without Butler and possibly ZION.


Well said. even though having teams earn a spot in the playoffs dance and all that excitement of teams going at each other it causes a lot of wear and tear on the body after a long grind out season
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:28 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message


I didn't even watch none of the games today. Sucks to come here and read that Butler got hurt in a game that he wasn't required to play 4yrs ago.

Playoffs just lost Butler and possibly Zion... How's that for your viewership ratings in the playoffs?


Won't hurt it
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:29 pm    Post subject:

CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message


I didn't even watch none of the games today. Sucks to come here and read that Butler got hurt in a game that he wasn't required to play 4yrs ago.

Playoffs just lost Butler and possibly Zion... How's that for your viewership ratings in the playoffs?


Won't hurt it


Yea because those 2 teams might not even make the playoffs now because of some dumb play-in tourney for ratings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:31 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message


I didn't even watch none of the games today. Sucks to come here and read that Butler got hurt in a game that he wasn't required to play 4yrs ago.

Playoffs just lost Butler and possibly Zion... How's that for your viewership ratings in the playoffs?


No but we were at 9th for so long..we could have stopped and sat LBJ and AD and called it a wrap. We got that 7th seed by playing for something..ie playoff spots. Ive said this now about three difrfeent ways...i have no idea why you dont get it..smh.

Also guys get inujured..thats a part of the game.....NBA is made on talent luck and health.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:40 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
TDRock wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Lakersfan1211 wrote:
Quote:
Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler is feared to have an MCL injury in his knee, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. The injury could sideline Butler for an indefinite period. MRI to come.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1780793382346121413

ATL/BOS then? lol


Well damn that sucks.




Play-In Tourney biting the league back on their ass.

Losing 2 top key players(Zion/Butler) because they have to play an extra game to fight for a playoff seeding that they already won during the regular season?

CANCEL PLAY-IN!!!... (bleep) is dumb.



Without the PLAY-IN YOU DONT make it to the playoffs. Do you not understand that?


When did you start watching the NBA... 3 years ago? You didn't seriously just post that.


Stop telling when you did. Me? I started before all these WUSS RULES of No hand check..Zone defense ooookkkkk....3 Sec Violation..Load Management Okkkkkkk. TRASH! THAT HAS MADE THIS SPORT SOFT!!


Now you sitting up here talking about injuries and stop the play-ins..WHEN back in my time you wouldnt EVEN BE SNIFFING PLAYOFFS and a hard foul is seeing blood and thats not a tech but a go get your free throws...Go ask Rambis and Scotty with Rodman. And you are with "Ohhh they injured! Make it Stoooop!".....smh

The playins are meant to help lower teams have A CHANCE TO GET IN THE PLAYOFFS and also really help stop self tanking thats it.


How many play-in tourney were being played back in your time?

Always been top 8th seed makes the playoffs.. No play-in required to help 9th-10th seed..



You didnt hear? The play-in is to HELP lower level teams that majority would tank to get better draft positions if not for the play-in. Lower teams would have nothing to fight for..Heck HOU almost got into the play-in and who knows might beat someone and get into the playoffs. Golden State might have thought to just stop playing there players..HECK we sitting in 9th could have stop playing and just said "This is where we are. REst LBJ and AD and get ready for next season"..IS that what you wanted? With the play-in we now in the playoffs...we have done this stuff twice now.



What are you yapping about now?

Lakers finish 7th seed twice, and 8th seed once during the PLAY-IN era... Back in your day those seedings were considered playoffs bound team at the end of the regular season, and no play-in games required.

CANCEL PLAY-IN... It is not needed and was never needed pre-covid era.


This isn't back in the day. This is now and you are obviously watching and contributing.

Don't watch and send a message


I didn't even watch none of the games today. Sucks to come here and read that Butler got hurt in a game that he wasn't required to play 4yrs ago.

Playoffs just lost Butler and possibly Zion... How's that for your viewership ratings in the playoffs?


No but we were at 9th for so long..we could have stopped and sat LBJ and AD and called it a wrap. We got that 7th seed by playing for something..ie playoff spots. Ive said this now about three difrfeent ways...i have no idea why you dont get it..smh.

Also guys get inujured..thats a part of the game.....NBA is made on talent luck and health.


Dude you just proved my point...
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Dude you just proved my point...


Do you understand what you read?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:22 pm    Post subject:

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Dude you just proved my point...


Do you understand what you read?


Yup just you yapping about nothing like usual trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Why would they stop and sit Lebron/AD out and give up, when they were in the thick of things all season long? They were never out of it and was battling last 2 months. So why would they sit them out? That makes no sense.

You proved my point. Players get hurt. Why play an extra game that is never needed in the past to make the playoffs?
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Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.
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Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


It will be even more popular when the NBA makes the teams who succeed in the tournament have the playoffs tiebreaker


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Look I understand having players get hurt sucks but it’s fun when the bottom feeders have a chance to earn a playoff spot, it’s why the Lakers were fortunate to make a run last year you just never know, and it’s gonna get more and more competitive as teams end up being buyers at the trade deadline
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JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:


Dude you just proved my point...


Do you understand what you read?


Yup just you yapping about nothing like usual trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Why would they stop and sit Lebron/AD out and give up, when they were in the thick of things all season long? They were never out of it and was battling last 2 months. So why would they sit them out? That makes no sense.

You proved my point. Players get hurt. Why play an extra game that is never needed in the past to make the playoffs?



I explained why the play-in was made and Cam explained the money aspect of it...after that?.....im done talking...Im just going to chalk it up to lack of reading comprehension skills and the education system turning their back on you...



.....education system going down the drain i tell ya.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:18 pm    Post subject:

Surely Kings beat a Zionless Pelicans.

Pelicans have no chance to beat Thunder without Zion
Kings will give them a challenge

Without Jimmy I might still favour Heat over Bulls
Heat without Jimmy get crushed by Celtics obviously.

Wouldn’t mind seeing Bulls vs Celtics
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:53 pm    Post subject:

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Look I understand having players get hurt sucks but it’s fun when the bottom feeders have a chance to earn a playoff spot, it’s why the Lakers were fortunate to make a run last year you just never know, and it’s gonna get more and more competitive as teams end up being buyers at the trade deadline


No it isn't. Why do the 36-46 Hawks deserve a chance to steal a playoff spot from a better team?

The playin had nothing to do with the Lakers making a run last year. Without the playin they still would have been the #7 seed and still played Memphis in the first round.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:11 am    Post subject:

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miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:


Dude you just proved my point...


Do you understand what you read?


Yup just you yapping about nothing like usual trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Why would they stop and sit Lebron/AD out and give up, when they were in the thick of things all season long? They were never out of it and was battling last 2 months. So why would they sit them out? That makes no sense.

You proved my point. Players get hurt. Why play an extra game that is never needed in the past to make the playoffs?



I explained why the play-in was made and Cam explained the money aspect of it...after that?.....im done talking...Im just going to chalk it up to lack of reading comprehension skills and the education system turning their back on you...



.....education system going down the drain i tell ya.


Sure bud lol… Cam at least explained his side. But you on the other hand. Well… I’ll just leave it at that.

Play-in is simply for ratings and money. It’s a gimmick to simply squeeze a few extra $$$ in an expense of players health. Nothing more.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:46 am    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
miggz23 wrote:


Dude you just proved my point...


Do you understand what you read?


Yup just you yapping about nothing like usual trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Why would they stop and sit Lebron/AD out and give up, when they were in the thick of things all season long? They were never out of it and was battling last 2 months. So why would they sit them out? That makes no sense.

You proved my point. Players get hurt. Why play an extra game that is never needed in the past to make the playoffs?



I explained why the play-in was made and Cam explained the money aspect of it...after that?.....im done talking...Im just going to chalk it up to lack of reading comprehension skills and the education system turning their back on you...



.....education system going down the drain i tell ya.


Sure bud lol… Cam at least explained his side. But you on the other hand. Well… I’ll just leave it at that.

Play-in is simply for ratings and money. It’s a gimmick to simply squeeze a few extra $$$ in an expense of players health. Nothing more.


I don't understand how you deal with that troll-like behavior.
You are a more patient man than I am.

Every thread I see him in. It's always "if you disagree with me you are an idiot". "The education system sucks". [Rhetorical question] , [rhetorical question] , [reply to post but don't address any of the arguments made] , [personal insult] .

I've seen obnoxious posters through the years. I've seen posters who are angry or confrontational. And I've seen posts where people argue their opinions are objective. But I'm not sure I've seen a mixture of all 3 at his level before.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:52 am    Post subject:

I'm pissed Jimmy got hurt. With Jimmy, Giannis, and Embiid all hurt. The road is paved for Boston.

They have a much easier route to the finals than anybody coming out of the West.

It is what it is. Just gotta hope we handle Denver. Outside of Denver, we match up the best against Boston.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:20 am    Post subject:

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Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


Because it completely disregards the teams that worked hard to secure a spot in a competitive conference, at the expense of muh ratings and entertainment. My issue with Zion and Butler getting hurt is that it was preventable. They could have allowed teams to rest for a week or so, but it continued right after the regular season ended, which is why players are skating on thin ice in these games. All that wear and tear just catches up with you at a certain point.

Either they need a longer grace period before the play-ins begin or the gimmick needs to go. Adam Silver can't have it both ways. If he wants to save his dying product, the first priority should be keeping the star players healthy. They are the bread and butter of this league. I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics cakewalk to the finals.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:53 am    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


Because it completely disregards the teams that worked hard to secure a spot in a competitive conference, at the expense of muh ratings and entertainment. My issue with Zion and Butler getting hurt is that it was preventable. They could have allowed teams to rest for a week or so, but it continued right after the regular season ended, which is why players are skating on thin ice in these games. All that wear and tear just catches up with you at a certain point.

Either they need a longer grace period before the play-ins begin or the gimmick needs to go. Adam Silver can't have it both ways. If he wants to save his dying product, the first priority should be keeping the star players healthy. They are the bread and butter of this league. I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics cakewalk to the finals.


How is the NBA a dying product? Lol. It is generating more revenue than ever before. Silver has done great
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:42 am    Post subject:

CamReddish wrote:
Denny_Russo wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


Because it completely disregards the teams that worked hard to secure a spot in a competitive conference, at the expense of muh ratings and entertainment. My issue with Zion and Butler getting hurt is that it was preventable. They could have allowed teams to rest for a week or so, but it continued right after the regular season ended, which is why players are skating on thin ice in these games. All that wear and tear just catches up with you at a certain point.

Either they need a longer grace period before the play-ins begin or the gimmick needs to go. Adam Silver can't have it both ways. If he wants to save his dying product, the first priority should be keeping the star players healthy. They are the bread and butter of this league. I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics cakewalk to the finals.


How is the NBA a dying product? Lol. It is generating more revenue than ever before. Silver has done great


This is not new news. Primetime viewership has been on a significant downturn and Silver has repeatedly said the NBA is struggling to bring in new viewership. Silver introducing the play-ins and then the IST was part of his plan to improve ratings, but IST failed to boost ratings. That's why there are fines for resting star players now.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/04/nba-ratings-viewership-past-30-years-analysis-where-league-stands/

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nbaviewingvshutlevels.png

Companies like ESPN, TNT, Amazon, Apple, YouTube, etc can shell out billions to buy the rights because they expect a ROI, but that's for another discussion and doesn't change the fact that the NBA is still in debt. They are the ones influencing the salary cap, not fans.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:27 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
I'm pissed Jimmy got hurt. With Jimmy, Giannis, and Embiid all hurt. The road is paved for Boston.

They have a much easier route to the finals than anybody coming out of the West.

It is what it is. Just gotta hope we handle Denver. Outside of Denver, we match up the best against Boston.


Yep this is an easy path for the Celtics. Even Doc Rivers couldn't (bleep) this up if he was still their coach.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:30 pm    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
Denny_Russo wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


Because it completely disregards the teams that worked hard to secure a spot in a competitive conference, at the expense of muh ratings and entertainment. My issue with Zion and Butler getting hurt is that it was preventable. They could have allowed teams to rest for a week or so, but it continued right after the regular season ended, which is why players are skating on thin ice in these games. All that wear and tear just catches up with you at a certain point.

Either they need a longer grace period before the play-ins begin or the gimmick needs to go. Adam Silver can't have it both ways. If he wants to save his dying product, the first priority should be keeping the star players healthy. They are the bread and butter of this league. I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics cakewalk to the finals.


How is the NBA a dying product? Lol. It is generating more revenue than ever before. Silver has done great


This is not new news. Primetime viewership has been on a significant downturn and Silver has repeatedly said the NBA is struggling to bring in new viewership. Silver introducing the play-ins and then the IST was part of his plan to improve ratings, but IST failed to boost ratings. That's why there are fines for resting star players now.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/04/nba-ratings-viewership-past-30-years-analysis-where-league-stands/

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nbaviewingvshutlevels.png

Companies like ESPN, TNT, Amazon, Apple, YouTube, etc can shell out billions to buy the rights because they expect a ROI, but that's for another discussion and doesn't change the fact that the NBA is still in debt. They are the ones influencing the salary cap, not fans.


NBA isn't in debt. They are getting the billions from the networks is already paid, the networks have to sell the product. Silver is just creating more product and can possibly get a network to buy the rights to the IST and the play in
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
CamReddish wrote:
Denny_Russo wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Why would the league cancel the play-ins? They’ve been popular. They provide incentive to teams to try to make the playoffs and have, in addition to smoothing out the lottery odds, reduced the amount of teams that would blatantly tank to end the year since there is still hope to squeak into the playoffs.


Because it completely disregards the teams that worked hard to secure a spot in a competitive conference, at the expense of muh ratings and entertainment. My issue with Zion and Butler getting hurt is that it was preventable. They could have allowed teams to rest for a week or so, but it continued right after the regular season ended, which is why players are skating on thin ice in these games. All that wear and tear just catches up with you at a certain point.

Either they need a longer grace period before the play-ins begin or the gimmick needs to go. Adam Silver can't have it both ways. If he wants to save his dying product, the first priority should be keeping the star players healthy. They are the bread and butter of this league. I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics cakewalk to the finals.


How is the NBA a dying product? Lol. It is generating more revenue than ever before. Silver has done great


This is not new news. Primetime viewership has been on a significant downturn and Silver has repeatedly said the NBA is struggling to bring in new viewership. Silver introducing the play-ins and then the IST was part of his plan to improve ratings, but IST failed to boost ratings. That's why there are fines for resting star players now.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/04/nba-ratings-viewership-past-30-years-analysis-where-league-stands/

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nbaviewingvshutlevels.png

Companies like ESPN, TNT, Amazon, Apple, YouTube, etc can shell out billions to buy the rights because they expect a ROI, but that's for another discussion and doesn't change the fact that the NBA is still in debt. They are the ones influencing the salary cap, not fans.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/193467/total-league-revenue-of-the-nba-since-2005/
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