Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Also if there's still banging noises by tomorrow, that's a pretty good indication it's not human made as they've run out of oxygen. They just have to wait it out to see how long the banging noises lasts.
If the banging noises have stopped then that's a good indication it was man made until they ran out of oxygen.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:34 am Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Yeah, They’re a lot of naturally generated repeated knocking sounds and such (think metal pings from an engine block cooling down), and they can also be intermittent. So it’s not really conclusive that the source in this case was generated by humans, even if they have stopped coincidentally around the time it’s thought the air supply may have run out. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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And everything you built that’s all for show
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Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Yeah, They’re a lot of naturally generated repeated knocking sounds and such (think metal pings from an engine block cooling down), and they can also be intermittent. So it’s not really conclusive that the source in this case was generated by humans, even if they have stopped coincidentally around the time it’s thought the air supply may have run out.
However, if you add in the debris, the story wouldn’t add up.
Debris = implosion = huge sound that should have been picked up by sonar.
It wouldn’t make sense to have the submersible lose power, run out of oxygen, make pinging noises which were detected (Tue n Wed), and have debris without any implosion sounds detected.
Only way this story makes sense is if the implosion happened immediately at the 1:45 hr mark. Somehow the sound of the implosion wasn’t detected and then there’s been banging noises ever since but somehow councidentally stopped around Wednesday.
"A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic," officials said.
The Coast Guard said Thursday morning that a robot from a Canadian vessel had reached the sea floor near the Titanic to look for the sub. Officials were expected to discuss the findings during a news conference Thursday afternoon.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:23 am Post subject:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Yeah, They’re a lot of naturally generated repeated knocking sounds and such (think metal pings from an engine block cooling down), and they can also be intermittent. So it’s not really conclusive that the source in this case was generated by humans, even if they have stopped coincidentally around the time it’s thought the air supply may have run out.
However, if you add in the debris, the story wouldn’t add up.
Debris = implosion = huge sound that should have been picked up by sonar.
It wouldn’t make sense to have the submersible lose power, run out of oxygen, make pinging noises which were detected (Tue n Wed), and have debris without any implosion sounds detected.
Only way this story makes sense is if the implosion happened immediately at the 1:45 hr mark. Somehow the sound of the implosion wasn’t detected and then there’s been banging noises ever since but somehow councidentally stopped around Wednesday.
You’re assuming that the collapse happened after the banging sounds were heard. What makes total sense is that the submersible suffered a catastrophic collapse on descent which lead to the loss of comms. That tracks with a debris field, which means wreckage spread over an area, ragged than later while just sitting on the bottom. The collapse of the structure would not have been detected by the hydrophones because they hadn’t been deployed because it happened before the rescue team even left port. What also tracks is that could explain the intermittent knocking sounds. Metals make such sounds when they are contracting, which could happen to the debris post implosion. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Yeah, They’re a lot of naturally generated repeated knocking sounds and such (think metal pings from an engine block cooling down), and they can also be intermittent. So it’s not really conclusive that the source in this case was generated by humans, even if they have stopped coincidentally around the time it’s thought the air supply may have run out.
However, if you add in the debris, the story wouldn’t add up.
Debris = implosion = huge sound that should have been picked up by sonar.
It wouldn’t make sense to have the submersible lose power, run out of oxygen, make pinging noises which were detected (Tue n Wed), and have debris without any implosion sounds detected.
Only way this story makes sense is if the implosion happened immediately at the 1:45 hr mark. Somehow the sound of the implosion wasn’t detected and then there’s been banging noises ever since but somehow councidentally stopped around Wednesday.
You’re assuming that the collapse happened after the banging sounds were heard. What makes total sense is that the submersible suffered a catastrophic collapse on descent which lead to the loss of comms. That tracks with a debris field, which means wreckage spread over an area, ragged than later while just sitting on the bottom. The collapse of the structure would not have been detected by the hydrophones because they hadn’t been deployed because it happened before the rescue team even left port. What also tracks is that could explain the intermittent knocking sounds. Metals make such sounds when they are contracting, which could happen to the debris post implosion.
That’s what I said….
There would still be the huge coincidence of the banging noises suddenly stopping on Wednesday.
My guess is the debris should still be generating noises now.
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Unfortunately sounds like the materials on the submersible failed. There was a limited number of times they could go down there before the vessel experienced a catastrophic implosion. Those passengers just happened to be the unfortunate souls that boarded the vessel. If the vessel was designed as the engineers wanted to the lifespan of it would probably be much longer and they would still be here today.
Unfortunately sounds like the materials on the submersible failed. There was a limited number of times they could go down there before the vessel experienced a catastrophic implosion. Those passengers just happened to be the unfortunate souls that boarded the vessel. If the vessel was designed as the engineers wanted to the lifespan of it would probably be much longer and they would still be here today.
I'm missing this part of the story. Was there a dispute between the engineers and how it ended up being built?
Unfortunately sounds like the materials on the submersible failed. There was a limited number of times they could go down there before the vessel experienced a catastrophic implosion. Those passengers just happened to be the unfortunate souls that boarded the vessel. If the vessel was designed as the engineers wanted to the lifespan of it would probably be much longer and they would still be here today.
I'm missing this part of the story. Was there a dispute between the engineers and how it ended up being built?
The International Organization for Migration (IOM) and the United Nations refugee agency (UNHCR) have said that between 400 and 750 people were believed to have been on board the boat that capsized on June 14 in the Ionian Sea some 47 nautical miles (87km) off the Greek town of Pylos..
So far, only 104 survivors have been found alive. None of the women or children who were allegedly kept in the hold of the boat have been found.
The tragedy off Greece was the third major incident recorded since February in which migrants and refugees from Pakistan lost their lives at sea.
Unfortunately sounds like the materials on the submersible failed. There was a limited number of times they could go down there before the vessel experienced a catastrophic implosion. Those passengers just happened to be the unfortunate souls that boarded the vessel. If the vessel was designed as the engineers wanted to the lifespan of it would probably be much longer and they would still be here today.
I'm missing this part of the story. Was there a dispute between the engineers and how it ended up being built?
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:48 pm Post subject:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Not sure if any of those passengers knew morse code but that would be the only way to distinguish that those noises were human made if it was a distinct pattern. Just hearing banging doesn't really confirm that it was human made.
Yeah, They’re a lot of naturally generated repeated knocking sounds and such (think metal pings from an engine block cooling down), and they can also be intermittent. So it’s not really conclusive that the source in this case was generated by humans, even if they have stopped coincidentally around the time it’s thought the air supply may have run out.
However, if you add in the debris, the story wouldn’t add up.
Debris = implosion = huge sound that should have been picked up by sonar.
It wouldn’t make sense to have the submersible lose power, run out of oxygen, make pinging noises which were detected (Tue n Wed), and have debris without any implosion sounds detected.
Only way this story makes sense is if the implosion happened immediately at the 1:45 hr mark. Somehow the sound of the implosion wasn’t detected and then there’s been banging noises ever since but somehow councidentally stopped around Wednesday.
You’re assuming that the collapse happened after the banging sounds were heard. What makes total sense is that the submersible suffered a catastrophic collapse on descent which lead to the loss of comms. That tracks with a debris field, which means wreckage spread over an area, ragged than later while just sitting on the bottom. The collapse of the structure would not have been detected by the hydrophones because they hadn’t been deployed because it happened before the rescue team even left port. What also tracks is that could explain the intermittent knocking sounds. Metals make such sounds when they are contracting, which could happen to the debris post implosion.
That’s what I said….
There would still be the huge coincidence of the banging noises suddenly stopping on Wednesday.
My guess is the debris should still be generating noises now.
If the knocking sounds were caused by the metal debris contracting from the pressure, it is completely logical that it would stop after a period of time, whether it be hours or days, when that debris reaches it’s point of maximum compression point. . _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Hopefully this will end Titanic tourism for many years. No one will want to go down there unless the submersible is safe. Sad that something catastrophic had to happen first. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
If the knocking sounds were caused by the metal debris contracting from the pressure, it is completely logical that it would stop after a period of time, whether it be hours or days, when that debris reaches it’s point of maximum compression point. .
We'll probably never know. My prediction is I'd think the banging noises are still going on right now. But, I don't think they'll release that info.
Hopefully this will end Titanic tourism for many years. No one will want to go down there unless the submersible is safe. Sad that something catastrophic had to happen first.
I heard from another video that the Russians also go there. So, I don't think it'll end.
The International Organization for Migration (IOM) and the United Nations refugee agency (UNHCR) have said that between 400 and 750 people were believed to have been on board the boat that capsized on June 14 in the Ionian Sea some 47 nautical miles (87km) off the Greek town of Pylos..
So far, only 104 survivors have been found alive. None of the women or children who were allegedly kept in the hold of the boat have been found.
The tragedy off Greece was the third major incident recorded since February in which migrants and refugees from Pakistan lost their lives at sea.
Exactly. The Greeks didn't want to help them. Meanwhile the world stops for these guys and CNN is eulogizing them. On the bright side Pakistanis know the world cares about them...if they are rich.
BREAKING— A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission. #Titan #TitanicRescue #titanicsubmarine
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