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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:29 pm    Post subject:

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We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:34 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..

Kobe wanted out..he had a NTC..
Beal wanted out he had a NTC ...

Same situation but different results. the Lakers did it right. They stood firm when he asked to play with Deng. Its a shame to have to break this down but i feel you just dancing around the issue...proof of crickets. You know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:37 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..stop dancing you know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.

The situations are not the same. The Lakers were not/did not want to move off kobe. The wiz were desperate to move off of beal.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:44 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..stop dancing you know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.

The situations are not the same. The Lakers were not/did not want to move off kobe. The wiz were desperate to move off of beal.


Nooo it is the same...For the right price the lakers would move on from Kobe.. They showed this with Shaq request. What are you talking about? He could have went to Chi but Buss wanted Deng in return but Kobe wanted to play with Deng, and thus trade never happened. How you going to revise history?

Buss was not going to have kobe leave and get nothing in return. Buss wasnt stupid like Washington. He knew he had to have a star comeback..epecially to convice fans and year long ticket holders that their was another star to root for. Washington got new management but they didnt have the guts to stand firm on getting a decent package back. This will hurt them in the long run as they got no star back nor draft prospects or young talent. How will they put people in seats? Even the old Clippers had high draft picks that people would come to see until Sterling traded them.

I dont understand why Wash mangagement dont understand but its all about sales, and right now their ticket sales and merchandise is going to plummet. This is okay in the short run but as time keeps going those lack of assets will contribute to lack of sales and ticket holders and the NBA will start to look at that. Thats why this deal was bad for not only Washington but for the NBA owners..ie generation of money.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:46 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:51 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..stop dancing you know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.

The situations are not the same. The Lakers were not/did not want to move off kobe. The wiz were desperate to move off of beal.


Nooo it is the same...For the right price the lakers would move on from Kobe.. They showed this with Shaq request. What are you talking about? He could have went to Chi but Buss wanted Deng in return but Kobe wanted to play with Deng. And thus trade never happened. How you going to revise history?

Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:55 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..

Kobe wanted out..he had a NTC..
Beal wanted out he had a NTC ...

Same situation but different results. the Lakers did it right. They stood firm when he asked to play with Deng. Its a shame to have to break this down but i feel you just dancing around the issue...proof of crickets. You know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.


Kobe was worth every penny of his deal. Beal is massively overpaid. That’s a huge difference.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:59 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..

Kobe wanted out..he had a NTC..
Beal wanted out he had a NTC ...

Same situation but different results. the Lakers did it right. They stood firm when he asked to play with Deng. Its a shame to have to break this down but i feel you just dancing around the issue...proof of crickets. You know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.

nope.
Kobe went public out of frustration
Beal didn't say a word

Lakers built a better team because of their love of kobe and winning
Wiz couldn't get rid of beal fast enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:09 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:12 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.


Ray Allen went to Miami

He put together Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Pierce, KG, and Brook Lopez
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:17 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.

Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision

In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached. They rectified that huge mistake. Sure it would have been nice to get a better asset, but the golden egg of that deal was getting rid of him. In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return. The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is.
Also, why do you keep trying to bring up other situations as a comparison. The league today is vastly different than even a few years ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:21 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?


He won't stop. I already laughed at his comparison of Beal to Kobe. That's when I knew he was just grasping for straws.

No idea why he's fighting so hard about this topic lol
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mhan00 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?



Theee situation is the same..

Kobe wanted out..he had a NTC..
Beal wanted out he had a NTC ...

Same situation but different results. the Lakers did it right. They stood firm when he asked to play with Deng. Its a shame to have to break this down but i feel you just dancing around the issue...proof of crickets. You know what that sentence meant. Man reading comprehension really needs to be empahsized in early child's development...smh.


Kobe was worth every penny of his deal. Beal is massively overpaid. That’s a huge difference.


Sure but its not about Kobe being great and Beal wasnt as great..Its about the situation. Both wanted out and both had a NTC. Both wanted to play for certain teams and both wanted to play with certian players.

The dfifference is teams involved. whether desperate or not..you werent going to push Buss or the Lakers into not getting nothing back.

Example: Look at Shaq. He was super mad not getting his ext and threaten to just sit(injury)..You can call that desperate to move him..but the Lakers got something back in LO and Caron Butler and some picks.
Wash same desperate but got nothing....no young players or picks..just a expiring which they might not be able to come off of or traded.

See the difference?

If you got to come off kobe you got to get value back thats why the deal never happened..Its the same with Beal..you got to get some type of value back. They got nothing back. They also didnt have to pull the trigger as he not a expiring..they rushed this.
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LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?


He won't stop. I already laughed at his comparison of Beal to Kobe. That's when I knew he was just grasping for straws.

No idea why he's fighting so hard about this topic lol


This why not just reading but understanding the words are fundamental. You keep saying im comparing players like stats and stuff and im telling you multiple times its the situation of both players having a NTC and demanding or looking to be traded...i dont know how else to explain that to you without telling you to read the sentence 4-5 times before responding..i cant tell you nothing but get those comprehension courses.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:36 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
^
We really need to move on with this. Whether it was a good move or a bad move, the Wizards were clearly desperate to get off of that contract, and because of their stupidity in giving him a NTC, they lost any leverage. Please, let's just move on, this isn't constructive.


Seriously ... some people are stubborn.


Seriously some people need to get enrolled in comprehension classes. They cant answer no questions....watch this

If there was so much leverage with the NTC..What happened to Kobe's "Leverage"? What happened to him playing in Chi-town? Whooops!...incoming crickets...


Beyond the bolded, you're comparing Kobe Bryant to Bradley Beal. You have to be trolling, at this point. Mods, hello?


He won't stop. I already laughed at his comparison of Beal to Kobe. That's when I knew he was just grasping for straws.

No idea why he's fighting so hard about this topic lol


This why not just reading but understanding the words are fundamental. You keep saying im comparing players like stats and stuff and im telling you multiple times its the situation of both players having a NTC and demanding or looking to be traded...i dont know how else to explain that to you without telling you to read the sentence 4-5 times before responding..i cant tell you nothing but get those comprehension courses.


I guess me and the other 2-3 LG posters all can't read or comprehend.
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Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.

Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision

In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached. They rectified that huge mistake. Sure it would have been nice to get a better asset, but the golden egg of that deal was getting rid of him. In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return. The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is.
Also, why do you keep trying to bring up other situations as a comparison. The league today is vastly different than even a few years ago.


Im reallly thinking you and lakerfan are one and same or you kinfolks to him..smh. Lets chop this up..smh.

"Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision"

So? and? What that got to do with the prices of tea in China?

"In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached."

No the dumbest thing is to let him go for nothing and get nothing in return..mission accomplished. They showed they dont care about wins as of now as they went and got Chris Paul.. Do you think Chris Paul is better than Beal?

"In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return."
The wanted the money release but now stuck with Paul so what did you accomplish? Lets say Paul get traded..its for two other bad players. Lets say you wait and paul stays and then comes off the books..YOU GOT MONEY BUT NOONES COMING OVER THERE TO PLAY. You have no assets or players to attract players..

"The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is."

Who said beal was great? Go show me where i said beal was great? ill wait..
Also the Heats package was better than the Suns.....Beal killed that offer..go ask your buddy LAKERSFAN..he will let you know.

"Also, why do you keep trying to bring up other situations as a comparison. The league today is vastly different than even a few years ago."

What other players you know got NTC? ill wait
Also you can only compare players who have the same situation that means have a NTC..the only one closest to that was Kobe..

i really think Lakersfan is kin to you...smh.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:31 pm    Post subject:

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OP, take out the <b>BREAKING NEWS</b> already.

It’s been 3 days now.


Happy now? I would have gladly done so earlier, but I will say that your use of "already and now" like that sounds so unnecessarily harsh. Peace!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:37 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.

Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision

In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached. They rectified that huge mistake. Sure it would have been nice to get a better asset, but the golden egg of that deal was getting rid of him. In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return. The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is.
Also, why do you keep trying to bring up other situations as a comparison. The league today is vastly different than even a few years ago.


Im reallly thinking you and lakerfan are one and same or you kinfolks to him..smh. Lets chop this up..smh.

"Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision"

So? and? What that got to do with the prices of tea in China?

"In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached."

No the dumbest thing is to let him go for nothing and get nothing in return..mission accomplished. They showed they dont care about wins as of now as they went and got Chris Paul.. Do you think Chris Paul is better than Beal?

"In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return."
The wanted the money release but now stuck with Paul so what did you accomplish? Lets say Paul get traded..its for two other bad players. Lets say you wait and paul stays and then comes off the books..YOU GOT MONEY BUT NOONES COMING OVER THERE TO PLAY. You have no assets or players to attract players..

"The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is."

Who said beal was great? Go show me where i said beal was great? ill wait..
Also the Heats package was better than the Suns.....Beal killed that offer..go ask your buddy LAKERSFAN..he will let you know.

.

Someone already used the "burner account" jab on you, so your originality is below par.

The wiz goal is seemingly different than yours.

Wiz- get him and his salary out of here. Which they didn't have to do but they did. Even though they didn't have to. Agree?

You- ahh man, they should have paid his salary, even though they were going nowhere and they didn't want him just to get a mythical better offer from the 3-4 teams he wanted to go to.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:48 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Halflife wrote:


JustaObserver wrote:

Halflife wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:

JustaObserver wrote:

LakerFan1987 wrote:

ChickenStu wrote:


Thats what you say. facts are they didn't. Stop with hypotheticals. Buss looked at Kobe like a son. The wiz were desperate to get rid of beal. We don't know if Kobe would have been a bull if deng was included. You are guessing. I am not revising history. I am posting exactly what happened. You are revising history based on "if".


It doesnt matter if he treats him like a son..Its still a business. Then what was Shaq then? What was West to him? What are you talking about? Just because Wash was desperate dont mean you have do stupid things.

Let me give you another question? Which you prob not going to get.

Do you remeber when the richest man in the world at the time.. bought the Nets? He brung over Paul Pierce/KG/I want to say Ray Allen....He gave away all types of picks to the Celtics to aquire them. He did this and didnt listen to his advisors that told him to go slow. He said himself he was anxoious/deperate to win now..anxious and desperate are very much like twins ..you dont think right but ill ask you.

Was that a smart move or not? If you say no.,,,then its the same thing as with washington management..they moving fast to rid themselves of 50mil but they not thinking of the reprecausions or how this move can hurt them in the LONG RUN.. It was a move they didnt have to make as they could slowly build with new assests while still playing beal. This move was just trying to make things happen. They trying to cut off their arm because their finger was infected or you can say their head is in the lion's mouth and they got a bat trying to hit the liion. Its not going to end well most times.

Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision

In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached. They rectified that huge mistake. Sure it would have been nice to get a better asset, but the golden egg of that deal was getting rid of him. In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return. The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is.
Also, why do you keep trying to bring up other situations as a comparison. The league today is vastly different than even a few years ago.


Im reallly thinking you and lakerfan are one and same or you kinfolks to him..smh. Lets chop this up..smh.

"Buss picked Kobe over shaq. Great business decision"

So? and? What that got to do with the prices of tea in China?

"In regard to Wiz, the dumbest thing would have been to have a guy making 200+ m on their roster without W's attached."

No the dumbest thing is to let him go for nothing and get nothing in return..mission accomplished. They showed they dont care about wins as of now as they went and got Chris Paul.. Do you think Chris Paul is better than Beal?

"In doing so they didn't have to take a ridiculous amount of long money in return."
The wanted the money release but now stuck with Paul so what did you accomplish? Lets say Paul get traded..its for two other bad players. Lets say you wait and paul stays and then comes off the books..YOU GOT MONEY BUT NOONES COMING OVER THERE TO PLAY. You have no assets or players to attract players..

"The heats package apparently wasn't that great which indicates that maybe beal isn't as glossy of a toy as you think he is."

Who said beal was great? Go show me where i said beal was great? ill wait..
Also the Heats package was better than the Suns.....Beal killed that offer..go ask your buddy LAKERSFAN..he will let you know.

.

Someone already used the "burner account" jab on you, so your originality is below par.

The wiz goal is seemingly different than yours.

Wiz- get him and his salary out of here. Which they didn't have to do but they did. Even though they didn't have to. Agree?

You- ahh man, they should have paid his salary, even though they were going nowhere and they didn't want him just to get a mythical better offer from the 3-4 teams he wanted to go to.


Did ..did you read my reply?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:06 pm    Post subject:

The Wizards wave the white flag 2 days into negotiations. This is just as bad as the Timberwolves trade last year in the exact opposite way. If you don't agree with me that's fine, I don't really care but It does show me you guys have no business experience whatsoever

The wizards are a terribly run organization and proved it again... Period
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:29 pm    Post subject:

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The Wizards wave the white flag 2 days into negotiations. This is just as bad as the Timberwolves trade last year in the exact opposite way. If you don't agree with me that's fine, I don't really care but It does show me you guys have no business experience whatsoever

The wizards are a terribly run organization and proved it again... Period

No doubt they are terribly run. However they got out of arguably the league’s worst contract when taking ntc into account.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:50 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
The Wizards wave the white flag 2 days into negotiations. This is just as bad as the Timberwolves trade last year in the exact opposite way. If you don't agree with me that's fine, I don't really care but It does show me you guys have no business experience whatsoever

The wizards are a terribly run organization and proved it again... Period

No doubt they are terribly run. However they got out of arguably the league’s worst contract when taking ntc into account.


Phoenix having to eat that contract and its tax for the next four seasons will really sting if they don’t win a championship. Absolutely awful contract for a borderline all star level player.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:36 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
The Wizards wave the white flag 2 days into negotiations. This is just as bad as the Timberwolves trade last year in the exact opposite way. If you don't agree with me that's fine, I don't really care but It does show me you guys have no business experience whatsoever

The wizards are a terribly run organization and proved it again... Period

No doubt they are terribly run. However they got out of arguably the league’s worst contract when taking ntc into account.


Phoenix having to eat that contract and its tax for the next four seasons will really sting if they don’t win a championship. Absolutely awful contract for a borderline all star level player.

Agree. It will be interesting to see how they fill out that roster. They are certainly better but with those financial stakes and talent ring or bust.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:22 pm    Post subject:

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Absolutely awful contract for a borderline all star level player.


He's overpaid for sure. But people aren't giving him enough credit here. When he's healthy he's more than a borderline all-star. He's been third team All-NBA, and a 3 time all-star. He's topped 30 points per game twice, and is coming off a year where he shot over 50% from the field. When he's healthy he's a very good scorer.
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