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Aeneas Hunter
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
So when Beal gets hurt and isn't tradeable, what then?
Wizards wanted to clear the decks, Beal gets to dictate the team..... not many options.
Box of cracker jacks that had "Clear Cap Space" prize was what the Wizards wanted. |
He spent most of the last two seasons hurt. He was still tradeable. Beal only gets to dictate the team if you let him. You wait until you get the deal you want, then ask Beal if he is ready to go. If he isn't, you wait some more. You don't let him dictate anything. |
Okay, so you keep Beal and pay him $50M per while you wait for that perfect trade. |
Exactly. Stop making excuses for a weak front office that just rolled over.
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LakerFan1987
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
So when Beal gets hurt and isn't tradeable, what then?
Wizards wanted to clear the decks, Beal gets to dictate the team..... not many options.
Box of cracker jacks that had "Clear Cap Space" prize was what the Wizards wanted. |
He spent most of the last two seasons hurt. He was still tradeable. Beal only gets to dictate the team if you let him. You wait until you get the deal you want, then ask Beal if he is ready to go. If he isn't, you wait some more. You don't let him dictate anything. |
Okay, so you keep Beal and pay him $50M per while you wait for that perfect trade. |
Exactly. Stop making excuses for a weak front office that just rolled over. |
What are you talking about? Who's making an excuse.
The only dumb thing the Wizards FO did was giving him that NTC |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
So when Beal gets hurt and isn't tradeable, what then?
Wizards wanted to clear the decks, Beal gets to dictate the team..... not many options.
Box of cracker jacks that had "Clear Cap Space" prize was what the Wizards wanted. |
He spent most of the last two seasons hurt. He was still tradeable. Beal only gets to dictate the team if you let him. You wait until you get the deal you want, then ask Beal if he is ready to go. If he isn't, you wait some more. You don't let him dictate anything. |
Okay, so you keep Beal and pay him $50M per while you wait for that perfect trade. |
Yeah, I think he def. screwed over Washington as far as what they got in return but at the same time Washington is probably beyond over playing the games and just wanted to move the ef on as he's clearly not a franchise player if your goal is to be in the Playoffs regularly let along actually being a Contender. |
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LakerFan1987
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
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Aeneas Hunter
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
Okay. I've explained it clearly enough. You're dug in. This happens on social media sometimes. Throwing more words at you is not going to achieve anything.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
Okay. I've explained it clearly enough. You're dug in. This happens on social media sometimes. Throwing more words at you is not going to achieve anything. |
Goes both ways, you think you're right and everyone has to agree w/u. |
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This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
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^^Old broken CP3 will wear down the rest of the team
Will old man Kawhil stay healthy
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
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| Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs?
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speaking of Nuggs
how big is Braun if he put on some beef to post up more
Malone let him out of the cage for a few bouts with Jimmy and crew and he looked like he was ready to become a starter |
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LakerFan1987
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
If Wizards goal is to clear cap space what is a better trade?
The teams interested were Miami, Bucks, Kings, Sixers .... none of them were offering a quick cap reset and btw Beal gets to decide where he wants to go.
NTC makes it not apples to apples |
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I like this deal for the Suns. They get younger and better. CP3 is washed. Not sure what the Wizards are doing though. They had the misfortune of paying max money to non-max level players.
That’s the poison pill of the NBA salary structure. In theory, every team can afford a max player or 2. But a max player on a bad NBA team is not true max level player, and that’s what Beal is. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs? |
Who is defending for Phoenix?
Which quality defenders are signing there for the vet min?
How many games do they get out of KD and Beal each season?
It was obvious they were lacking depth after the KD trade. It's even worse now.
This new owner is swinging for the fences and it's not going to pay off. |
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JustaObserver
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
If Wizards goal is to clear cap space what is a better trade?
The teams interested were Miami, Bucks, Kings, Sixers .... none of them were offering a quick cap reset and btw Beal gets to decide where he wants to go.
NTC makes it not apples to apples |
They could have just let him play until he decided to meet halfway..which means he accepts a team that he wishes to go to and we get a acceptable trade value. If not? He can claim injury or play..dont care he can rot. They didnt have to comply to that junk they recieved. Even Kobe tried that as he wanted to play with Deng..And Buss said...NIOPE. And well the rest is history...
Point: You dont have to cave due to a NTC. |
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Dominic1981
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| Rek wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs? |
Who is defending for Phoenix?
Which quality defenders are signing there for the vet min?
How many games do they get out of KD and Beal each season?
It was obvious they were lacking depth after the KD trade. It's even worse now.
This new owner is swinging for the fences and it's not going to pay off. |
I'll defend Phoenix. They are going for the Curry/Klay/KD version of the Warriors by using Booker/Beal/KD.
They go from a 38 year old Chris Paul, to a 30 year old Brad Beal. That is huge. |
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Halflife
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| Rek wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs? |
Who is defending for Phoenix?
Which quality defenders are signing there for the vet min?
How many games do they get out of KD and Beal each season?
It was obvious they were lacking depth after the KD trade. It's even worse now.
This new owner is swinging for the fences and it's not going to pay off. |
We don’t know where they land player wise. They do need bodies. We had the best defense in the postseason and got swept.
To think they aren’t substantially better now than when they ended is crazy.
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LakerFan1987
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
If Wizards goal is to clear cap space what is a better trade?
The teams interested were Miami, Bucks, Kings, Sixers .... none of them were offering a quick cap reset and btw Beal gets to decide where he wants to go.
NTC makes it not apples to apples |
They could have just let him play until he decided to meet halfway..which means he accepts a team that he wishes to go to and we get a acceptable trade value. If not? He can claim injury or play..dont care he can rot. They didnt have to comply to that junk they recieved. Even Kobe tried that as he wanted to play with Deng..And Buss said...NIOPE. And well the rest is history...
Point: You dont have to cave due to a NTC. |
Bucks, Heat, Kings, 76ers say hi |
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JustaObserver
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| Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs? |
Who is defending for Phoenix?
Which quality defenders are signing there for the vet min?
How many games do they get out of KD and Beal each season?
It was obvious they were lacking depth after the KD trade. It's even worse now.
This new owner is swinging for the fences and it's not going to pay off. |
We don’t know where they land player wise. They do need bodies. We had the best defense in the postseason and got swept.
To think they aren’t substantially better now than when they ended is crazy. |
We got swept because our coach is a village idiot..wait thats not fiar how about "a 3 games too late, 1 Chip Short " kind a guy?..their coach is not.
Even though he got no defenders on that team..Im sure he will find way to get some defense from somewhere. |
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JustaObserver
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
If Wizards goal is to clear cap space what is a better trade?
The teams interested were Miami, Bucks, Kings, Sixers .... none of them were offering a quick cap reset and btw Beal gets to decide where he wants to go.
NTC makes it not apples to apples |
They could have just let him play until he decided to meet halfway..which means he accepts a team that he wishes to go to and we get a acceptable trade value. If not? He can claim injury or play..dont care he can rot. They didnt have to comply to that junk they recieved. Even Kobe tried that as he wanted to play with Deng..And Buss said...NIOPE. And well the rest is history...
Point: You dont have to cave due to a NTC. |
Bucks, Heat, Kings, 76ers say hi |
...And that Washington Locker Room and that Washington Jersey would be saying hi to Beal starting next season..So whats your point? |
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Halflife
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Rek wrote: | This is going to be fun to watch Phoenix fail hard.
If the Clippers trade for CP3, that's going to be even more fun to watch fail when he realizes he's too old to do much without Kawhi and PG13 being healthy every season like clockwork.
Beal is a fool for not taking the Miami option. I'm not sure why Riley was willing to pursue him to begin with. But, the potential with that team was much stronger IMO. They have good to great defenders to hide his weaknesses on that end and Jimmy would be all too happy to let him feast on offense.
Now waiting to see if Dame demands a trade and lands with Miami or Brooklyn.
Shaping up to be an interesting offseason. |
What’s failing hard? Not being able to beat the Nuggs? |
Who is defending for Phoenix?
Which quality defenders are signing there for the vet min?
How many games do they get out of KD and Beal each season?
It was obvious they were lacking depth after the KD trade. It's even worse now.
This new owner is swinging for the fences and it's not going to pay off. |
We don’t know where they land player wise. They do need bodies. We had the best defense in the postseason and got swept.
To think they aren’t substantially better now than when they ended is crazy. |
We got swept because our coach is a village idiot..wait thats not fiar how about "a 3 games too late, 1 Chip Short " kind a guy?..their coach is not.
Even though he got no defenders on that team..Im sure he will find way to get some defense from somewhere. |
We got swept because we aren’t close to the Nuggs even with elite defense.
If we go into season with same team we are only playing to be competitive but not serious. The suns may not be a championship team but they are serious.
We need a substantial upgrade.
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LakerFan1987
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Joined: 30 Oct 2022
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | You still don't get the leverage Beal had. |
The leverage argument has gotten blown way out of proportion. The Wizards were under no obligation or pressure to trade Beal. They just rolled over. This looks like a case of the new front office wanting to clean house. That's fine, but Beal wanted out. They didn't need to trade him for a box of Cracker Jacks. |
BTW ... no leverage Beal nixed a deal to the Bucks |
AD didn't have a no trade clause but made it known he would not go anywhere else but LA. And everyone and their mom knew that was going to happen. We tried to trade for him mid season but the Pelican wouldn't accept anything but a great deal and we gave up the farm for him in the Summer
AD is much better and has a better contract so I didn't expect as much for Beal but to not get one first round pick come on... washington could of dragged this much longer than day 2 of free agency. I would rather not make the trade at all then what they got. See how patience Beal and the Suns are when no trade has happened and it's the next season at the trade deadline |
What's to say AD didn't get traded to another team?
See PG13 |
It's not apples to apples but there is a difference between day 2 in free agency and a full season of negotiations. The Wizards caved 2 days in lol |
If Wizards goal is to clear cap space what is a better trade?
The teams interested were Miami, Bucks, Kings, Sixers .... none of them were offering a quick cap reset and btw Beal gets to decide where he wants to go.
NTC makes it not apples to apples |
They could have just let him play until he decided to meet halfway..which means he accepts a team that he wishes to go to and we get a acceptable trade value. If not? He can claim injury or play..dont care he can rot. They didnt have to comply to that junk they recieved. Even Kobe tried that as he wanted to play with Deng..And Buss said...NIOPE. And well the rest is history...
Point: You dont have to cave due to a NTC. |
Bucks, Heat, Kings, 76ers say hi |
...And that Washington Locker Room and that Washington Jersey would be saying hi to Beal starting next season..So whats your point? |
All teams that offered something and had interest but yet were beat by the Suns huge offer?
Why is that? Oh NTC
So what's your point? |
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