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Best third best player in Lakers history?
James Worthy (Magic, Kareem)
73%
 73%  [ 38 ]
Lamar Odom (Kobe, Pau)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Elgin Baylor (West, Wilt)
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
Pau Gasol (Kobe, Bynum under Mike Brown and Kobe/Dwight under D’Antoni)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Gail Goodrich (West, Wilt)
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Jamaal Wilkes (Magic, Kareem)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Karl Malone (Kobe, Shaq)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Gary Payton (Kobe, Shaq)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Russell Westbrook
7%
 7%  [ 4 ]
Other
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 52

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:27 pm    Post subject: Best third banana in Lakers history?

And where does Westbrook rank?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Best third banana in Lakers history?

CandyCanes wrote:
And where does Westbrook rank?


He doesn't--he hasn't even played a game yet. TBD after the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:34 pm    Post subject:

Easily worthy -- Top 50 player in his prime who was in sync with two GOAT-level players.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:50 pm    Post subject:

I argue Bynum was third behind Kobe/Pau, not the other way around.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:48 pm    Post subject:

Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:04 pm    Post subject:

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I argue Bynum was third behind Kobe/Pau, not the other way around.


Bynum under Mike Brown: 18.7 ppg, 11.8 RPG, 1.9 BPG, all star

Pau: 17.4 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 1.4 BPG, non-all star
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:05 pm    Post subject:

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Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana


Pau was at best third banana under D’Antoni and possibly lower
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject:

I could argue Elgin Baylor on this, but he wasn't always third banana in his best years, Worthy/Showtime took home a lot of trophies and Big Game played his role amazingly well.

Gotta give Big Game James the call on this poll.

Gasol was good, but Worthy and Baylor were on another level.

Westbrook is capable of reaching that level if everything goes perfect with health, chemistry, fit, but he hasn't played a game yet so we'll see.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:47 pm    Post subject:

BGJ!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:22 pm    Post subject:

Obvious answer is Big Game. Although, he was more a #1/2 option towards the end of the 80s. Magic and the Lakers made it a point to constantly massage Kareem's ego but the truth is that he stopped being a true #2 option in the mid-80s. Magic took over and made sure guys like Worthy and Byron got their shine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:25 pm    Post subject:

Not even a difficult question on this one.. Worthy with ease.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Have to go with the crowd on this one. Worthy.

Although Goodrich is a sentimental favorite.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:17 pm    Post subject:

No love for Smush Parker?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:20 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana


easily, more Finals MVP than Steph, KG
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:41 am    Post subject:

Pau when Bynum was healthy, Baylor when he was healthy, Jamaal Wilkes who doesn't get enough respect, and of course Big Game James.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:12 am    Post subject:

Jamaal Wilkes

A Finals MWP can never be a third banana
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:13 am    Post subject:

mixtim wrote:
Jamaal Wilkes

A Finals MWP can never be a third banana


On a team with the greatest point guard of all time in Magic Johnson and the greatest center and player of all time in Kareem you can be, and are.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:21 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
defense wrote:
Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana


Pau was at best third banana under D’Antoni and possibly lower


You could argue that Gasol was the third or fourth best player on the 2012-13 team when the Lakers had Kobe, Howard, Nash and Gasol.

That said, I don't think anyone thought of him as "a third banana." The team was too injury-ridden, dysfunctional, and unsuccessful for people to think in terms of a pecking order past Kobe.

Same with Elgin. I don't think there was any particular pecking order with West, Elgin and Wilt. More of a three-headed monster.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject:

Worthy/Baylor/Wilkes/Byron/Stormin Norman
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:30 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
defense wrote:
Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana


Pau was at best third banana under D’Antoni and possibly lower


You could argue that Gasol was the third or fourth best player on the 2012-13 team when the Lakers had Kobe, Howard, Nash and Gasol.

That said, I don't think anyone thought of him as "a third banana." The team was too injury-ridden, dysfunctional, and unsuccessful for people to think in terms of a pecking order past Kobe.

Same with Elgin. I don't think there was any particular pecking order with West, Elgin and Wilt. More of a three-headed monster.


Who was third banana between Malone and Gary Payton?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:52 am    Post subject:

mixtim wrote:
Jamaal Wilkes

A Finals MWP can never be a third banana


Worthy was Finals MVP, not Wilkes.

Edit: My bad Mixtim, I misunderstood your post when I responded. You weren't saying Jamaal was a Finals MVP...note to self: drink more coffee before firing off a post in the morning.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:06 am    Post subject:

Elgin Baylor
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:46 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
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Big game without question.

Pau was never a3rd banana


Pau was at best third banana under D’Antoni and possibly lower


You could argue that Gasol was the third or fourth best player on the 2012-13 team when the Lakers had Kobe, Howard, Nash and Gasol.

That said, I don't think anyone thought of him as "a third banana." The team was too injury-ridden, dysfunctional, and unsuccessful for people to think in terms of a pecking order past Kobe.

Same with Elgin. I don't think there was any particular pecking order with West, Elgin and Wilt. More of a three-headed monster.


Who was third banana between Malone and Gary Payton?


Again, I don't recall people ordering them. It was more that the Lakers were a superteam or a "big four" rather than people getting worked up about what the pecking order was.

In many cases, "the pecking order" or "third banana" stuff is imaginary. It's not like anyone is officially declared a "third banana." It's just a perception by fans and sportscasters.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 am    Post subject:

mixtim wrote:
A Finals MWP can never be a third banana



Cedric Maxwell and Andre Iguodala say hello.
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