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KBandKB Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:02 pm Post subject: Potential Rotations and Starting Lineup Discussion |
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Here is what I hope pans out, but I’m pretty sure we’ll still go with Gasol at the 5 to start. What are your thoughts? I feel like we have a lot of possibilities going in.
AD (24) - Dwight (14) - Gasol (10)
LeBron (24) - Melo (16) - AD (8)
Bazemore (24) - Ellington (18) - LeBron (6)
THT (24) - Monk (18) - Nunn (6)
Westbrook (32) - Nunn (16)
Ariza: Injury Filler |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7924 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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1st and 3rd Starters
Gasol
AD
Lebron
Bazemore
Westbrook
Closers
Swap Gasol for "Hot hand" or Melo |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Russ
Baze
Bron
Ad
Dh |
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Megaton Retired Number
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | As it stands right now?
Westbrook
THT
Lebron
Davis
Howard |
The spacing would be beautiful _________________ D'Angelo finals M.V.P |
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Megaton Retired Number
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | scout_0 wrote: | Megaton wrote: | As it stands right now?
Westbrook
THT
Lebron
Davis
Howard |
The spacing would be beautiful |
Don't matter. THT is the 4th highest paid player on the team now. Can't bench that anymore. |
Since Nunn is the 5th highest paid he should also start! _________________ D'Angelo finals M.V.P |
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2019 Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10821
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gasol (12), Dwight, (18), AD (18)
AD (14), Melo (16), LeBron (18)
LeBron (12), Baze (18), THT (18)
Ellington (20), THT (10), Monk (18)
Westbrook (32), Nunn (16)
Something like that. Don't see how Ariza cracks the rotation. I mean that's already 11 guys but I see all of them getting mins and I think THT gets big mins in that 6th man role... at least for the regular season |
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3baller Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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AD at 5
AD / Howard / Gasol
Bron / Melo
Ariza / THT
Bazemore / Ellington / Monk
Westbrook / Nunn
AD at 4
Gasol / Howard
AD / Melo
Bron / Ariza
Bazemore / THT / Ellington
Westbrook / Nunn / Monk _________________ Plan A - Schroder/Hield/Lebron/AD/Gasol
Plan B- Schroder/Powell/Lebron/AD/Gasol |
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LoPro4u2c Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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All I know is last 6 minutes of 4th quarter in a close game might be
WB
THT
Melo
Lebron
AD |
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epic_ Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jan 2020 Posts: 11310
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dunn . Westbrook
Ellington . Monk . Bazemore
Ariza . LeBron
Melo . AD
Dwight . Gasol
Will need to slot in Larry as well.
This is gonna be an interesting call for Coach Frank. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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scout_0 wrote: | Megaton wrote: | As it stands right now?
Westbrook
THT
Lebron
Davis
Howard |
The spacing would be beautiful |
No 3 point shooters. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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TheBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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A few reporters, who I'm sure have already heard some whispers from their team sources, have already posted the following projected depth chart:
Westbrook/Nunn
Ellington/THT/Monk
Lebron/Bazemore
AD/Ariza/Melo
Marc/Dwight
AD and Bron will move up a position as we hopefully downsize more often and I'm sure Ariza/Melo can play the 3 at times, so we'll probably be able to get those two + Nunn/THT/Monk each decent minutes even off the bench. Marc and Ellington end up as more of token starters for spacing?
How Vogel staggers Bron and Russ is going to be fascinating, but it's going to be refreshing to have so many bench lineup options open up with a playmaker on the floor at all times. We could sit Bron earlier in the first quarter, then bring him out with a Dwight/Bron/Ariza/THT/Nunn lineup in the second, just as an example. Or sit Russ and AD earlier, then go with Russ/Monk/Baze/Melo/AD. So much better than what we were forced to run in non-Lebron minutes last year... |
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TheBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | Gasol (12), Dwight, (18), AD (18)
AD (14), Melo (16), LeBron (18)
LeBron (12), Baze (18), THT (18)
Ellington (20), THT (10), Monk (18)
Westbrook (32), Nunn (16)
Something like that. Don't see how Ariza cracks the rotation. I mean that's already 11 guys but I see all of them getting mins and I think THT gets big mins in that 6th man role... at least for the regular season |
That would be a shame since Ariza is probably a better option than Baze even at this age. I think he doesn't get as much run in the RS, but cracks the playoff rotation. Would love to see Dunn get more than 16 minutes and he was basically playing starter minutes for the Heat the past two years, but like you said, it's going to be a tough balancing act for Vogel. A good problem to have since we need to limit the star trio's minutes anyway during the RS grind, and injuries will inevitably hit. Lebron's minutes may (or at least shot) start hitting late career Tim Duncan territory anyway. |
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BandwagonLBJhopper Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I’d give Monk a shot - if he figures it out our ceiling is absurd
Russ
Monk
LBJ
AD
Gasol
Prob close with LBJ at 4, AD at 5 and flex up THT at the 3 |
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gng930 Franchise Player
Joined: 13 Apr 2001 Posts: 11476
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | Gasol (12), Dwight, (18), AD (18)
AD (14), Melo (16), LeBron (18)
LeBron (12), Baze (18), THT (18)
Ellington (20), THT (10), Monk (18)
Westbrook (32), Nunn (16)
Something like that. Don't see how Ariza cracks the rotation. I mean that's already 11 guys but I see all of them getting mins and I think THT gets big mins in that 6th man role... at least for the regular season |
I think Ellington will be the odd man out when everyone's healthy unless Monk or Nunn underperform. Ariza skillset is a bit more unique and he isn't a liability on offense as much as Ellington will be on defense.
I look at it more from a minutes perspective since there's quite a bit of versatility in the lineup and it's not a given where AD will start:
AD, Bron, WB ~32 minutes
Dwight, Gasol, Melo, Ariza ~16 minutes
That leaves 80 minutes to split between THT, Nunn, Baze, Monk, and Ellington. I believe it will come out to 15-25 for 4 of them with one of them being the odd man out. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks OP for making this thread, these type of threads are always my favorite even if they never go more than a few pages.
Nunn THT
West Monk Baze
Ellington Ariza
James Melo
AD Gasol DH
Going small ball every time West is on the floor. We will still win the glass while adding another perimeter defender and shooter. That and his elite playmaking are his biggest strengths as a player |
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I like these topics
Backcourt by committee, just surround WB at all times with shooters
WB 32 ------ Nunn 16
Baze 20 ---- Monk 16
LBJ 24 ------ Ariza 16 --- Baze 12
AD 24 ------- Melo 16 ---- LBJ 8
Gasol 16 -----DH 20 ----- AD 12
Something like the bold or whoever is hot closes (O or D) along with WB at PG , LBJ at PF and AD at Center
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Starters (unless we sign Millsap or trade Schro for another legit starter)
Gasol
AD
LBJ
Baze
Russ
LBJ out:
Dwight
Melo
Ariza
Russ
Nunn/Monk (hotter hand)
Russ out:
AD
LBJ
THT
Ellington
Nunn/Monk
Close:
AD
LBJ
Ariza/Melo (defense versus offense)
Baze/Monk (defense versus offense though I think Monk's defense can be coached up)
Russ _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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It’s going to be nice to have more offensive weapons, I just hope Frank doesn’t go all in on defense. It’s important to find the right combinations. |
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LoPro4u2c Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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So whats the lineup when WB or AD wants to do load management? |
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Lakers_Jester Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I thought we got westbrook so that lbj and ad play at 4/5?
That being said:
Wb
Monk
Bazemore
Lbj
AD |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see Monk getting consistent minutes unless he can become an above average defender.
Gasol/Dwight probably play a combined 24 minutes a game. The other 24 at center will go to AD. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | I don't see Monk getting consistent minutes unless he can become an above average defender.
Gasol/Dwight probably play a combined 24 minutes a game. The other 24 at center will go to AD. |
Yea monk isn’t getting much unless he proves himself. |
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MikeTrout Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Westbrook / Nunn
Bazemore / THT / Monk / Ellington
Lebron / Ariza
AD / Melo
Gasol / Dwight
PG: Westbrook (33), Nunn (15)
SG: Bazemore (9), THT (18), Monk (12), Ellington (9)
SF: Lebron (21), Ariza (12), Bazemore (15)
PF: AD (15), Melo (15), Lebron (12), Ariza (6)
C: Gasol (15), Dwight (15), AD (18) |
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