CP3 to Lakers? (Nope -Traded to the Suns)

parsons777 · Star Player Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3574

This may be in the previous 40+ pages somewhere, so if I missed it, sorry.

What would stop CP3 and OKC doing a buyout, say at $50 mill instead of the $80 he is owed and then we pay him the $30 over 2 years? I thought the player and the team could agree to waive offset of new contracts in buyouts.

OKC gets off the bad contract and we make CP3 whole at a reasonable price.

13thOverallPick · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:54 pm Post subject:

Maybe Lebron doesnt want to start season too soon not just for him, but for Chris Paul

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cannga11 · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:22 pm Post subject:

IMHO, no, no, no, no, unless he comes without costing us much, which is not going to happen this year. He's an ex Clippers, and carries that Clippers curse: sh*t happens at the most unfortunate times.

He seems healthy only when nothing matters, like this year. CBS article rearranged:

2015: Paul played in all 82 regular-season games during the 2014-15 season, but suffered a hamstring injury in Game 7 of the first round of the playoffs against the San Antonio Spurs.

2016: Paul broke a bone in his right hand during Game 4 of the first round of the playoffs against the Portland Trail Blazers. The injury occurred with Paul's Clippers up 2-1 in the series; they would not win another game in the series, and ultimately fell 4-2 to Portland. Paul did not return after sustaining the Game 4 injury.

2018: The Houston Rockets clinched a pivotal Game 5 victory on Thursday to take a 3-2 Western Conference finals lead over the Golden State Warriors. Even in the win, though, it felt like a loss for Houston, which saw Chris Paul come up hobbled late in the game. Paul left in the final minute with an apparent hamstring injury and did not return.
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Mike@LG · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:54 pm Post subject:

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Mike@LG · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:20 pm Post subject:

1. I expect reduced minutes for CP3, LBJ, and AD if all 3 are on the team.
2. He wouldn't have the same responsibility because of LeBron. Did the Clippers or OKC have another playmaking star next to him? No. He has that AND an elite finisher in AD.
3. You're banking on age, and I get it.

But at the same time, OKC was supposed to be a lottery team and he took OKC to Game 7 vs. Houston with perceived Harden as a greater player.

I buy the age argument, but I'm not buying anything else, especially when LAL would basically be the only 3 star team in the league.

LAL didn't practice that much all last season and that helps all the veterans. CP3 can rest that hamstring and play reduced minutes, and LAL should still be dominant. We only need 6 minutes a quarter out of him.
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vasashi17+ · Star Player Joined: 13 Dec 2019 Posts: 5611

And what happens to our title hopes if Bron or AD go down to injury as well? With Cp3 you can stagger those guys much better among each other during the regular season so that you can have them at near 100 during the playoffs. Not to mention Bron is going to be 36 and has no business being our full time regular season point gawd again.

Folks are scared that we'd give up too much cap space to add mid tier players to the roster with (tpMLE vs ntpMLE)...but why do we keep ignoring that we rounded out the roster with vet min types and its those guys primarily that helped us during our title run.

Green/McGee/Av/Cook (25m+) vs Rondo/Dwight/AC/Kieff (<9m)

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The shortened year made cp3 more valuable. Look what it did for brons defense. He had legs. I am all fora 72 game season.

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What sells me on Chris Paul is that he was on the all-defensive teams and not too long ago a top 10 defender in the NBA, maybe even top 5. You now put him around AD, Bron, Dwight, and the defensive mindset of this group with a great coach like Vogel, it will make the defense even better on paper.

What I worry about is the huge salary impact and the guys we would be losing. If we can keep guys like Caruso, Bradley, KCP, and re-sign Dwight and Morris. I would probably say it ends up helping this team quite a bit.

The main concern would be the mindset of CP3. He has to come with a mentality of being a jack of all trades, high impact role player, with leadership. He didn't always do that in Houston, and we saw how it failed with Harden and Melo etc. He definitely leads well when he is the undisputed star of the team. But when he has had to gel with another star or two, like in Houston or with prime Blake/DAJ, it didn't always go well. That said, again, we have seen bigger head cases like Dwight, Rondo etc have issues elsewhere and come here and be great in Lakers culture. So long as CP3 would come to fit in, it would probably end up being a move that puts us significantly ahead of the pack. We're the best team when we're locked in defensively, but teams are within striking distance. A move like CP3 that has CP3 trying to fit in, probably puts significant separation from us and the other contenders.

I don't know if Presti can do better than Kuz, 28th pick, THT and expiring contracts. I wonder if we even try to keep Kuz out of it, because as far as I can tell, the market for CP3 is not all that great. His contract is ridiculously large, and I don't see too many teams wanting it. Certainly, I can not see too many teams having expiring contracts to offer.

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The crux of the arguments for or against him is how they fill out the rest of the roster. The Lakers will need to add several players that fit on the floor and establish solid chemistry. If they can do that is the risk.

Still too many unknowns to predict success or failure IMO. If the addition of Paul depletes the roster and a couple key role players choose to move on to other teams.... that is a lot of player chemistry to replace.

And having to replace with limited assets and money. To rest Paul and James as much as some are proposing it will take quality depth. Going to be interesting to see how they are able to add players who can take that significant weight of responsibility who are willing to play for vet mins.

I dont particularly like the Paul trade idea. But it will be interesting as hell to see who they can get to fill out the team if they do.

IMO the bigger factor is going to be the length of the season. If it is a100 game season I think the odds get way down for a repeat. The shorter the season the better the chances that “ wear and tear “ or high mileage players is not a factor.

yinoma2001 · Retired Number Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487

I would be in favor of trading for CP3. But I don't think it happens. I think CP3 will likely go to an Eastern Conf. team.
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Four Decade Bandwagon · Star Player Joined: 18 Jul 2014 Posts: 8151

With or without a Paul trade it is going to be another waiting game to see how the season even looks. Huge factors of length of season, manageable profit losses affecting the salary cap and player wages and ongoing COVID concerns all loom large.

League still needs to figure out those issues before any trade or free agent changes can even be considered.

Going to be interesting! At least the Lakers have one championship in the pocket no matter what happens next.