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Roger O. Thornhill
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| anth2000 wrote: | | troy wrote: | The one player I am very disappointed with is Kyle Kuzma. I am finding that this guy just doesn't have much in the way of basketball skill. And Vogel isn't exactly coaching effectively. AD needs to play low and dominate the key. Doc Rivers uses his centers much more effectively than Vogel does. Doc is a much better coach than Vogel.
After watching the Heat, the Celtics and the Clippers, I'm confident that there is NO possible way we can win it all. This current Lakers team just isn't good enough. At this point, I'd rather lose to the Rockets than suffer the humiliation of being swept by the Clippers next round. |
Kuzma sucks and has been so overrated on this forum. Super low IQ. |
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JerryWest_44
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| pio2u wrote: | Flush this one, regroup, readjust and come out playing hard-core defense. GO LAKERS!!  |
there u go |
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rybee
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They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
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eddiejonze
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Theseus wrote: | | Hopefully next game we are allowed to play defense |
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ZeroDark30_
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| PASTOR RILEY wrote: | | 0 points for lbj in the fourth |
Not to be that person but LeBron was the only one who saw where this was going. He was frustrated cause he knew we were headed for a L. Rondo cannot play and Kuz was getting abused all game. Kuz letting Gordon go off early in the 4th was essentially the game. Shame. |
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Zillethai
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| cirehawk wrote: | | DrDent wrote: | | Leif wrote: | Tied in rebounds right now.  |
Yep -
My concern is not just the loss, it's the fact this staff and team have yet to figure out the Rocket rubix cube. A bunch of small guys playing small ball and tossing 3s and going at the hoop, who by the way are playing up on the Lakers on D, bumping them, and by the 4th quarter in this game had forced the Lakers into being a team with 4 guys (including AD) tossing 3s from the outside.
But fact is since the Rockets went all in on crazy small ball, Lakers just havent figured them out, often looking outclassed and clueless. I dont have an answer.
At first I was big on just going at them with bigs over and over on offense. That really hasnt worked. Then I'm like fine, try going small - but the Lakers get overmatched in playing the Rockets style.
Is this just a bad matchup for this team? I'm not "panicking" from this one game, but rather now it is 3 straight where the end result has been the Rockets just making the Lakers look very ordinary and out of sorts.
Staff and players need something better than this is all I have to say. |
That hasn't worked because AD either refuses to, or is incapable of showing some DAWG and deciding those little guys aren't going to keep pushing him off the block. |
AD doesn't have a low center of gravity. Way too easy for smaller low center gravity guys (Tucker) to push him around. It seems as if he's always collapsing on the floor and rolling around
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mad55557777
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| rybee wrote: | They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
Did we beat them once after they go small ball? Didn’t think so
Good news is that home court is meaningless inside the bubble |
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DrDent
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| blackmamba08 wrote: | Rondo 22 minutes??? WTF Vogel!
Next game:
McGee out of rotation. He is useless against Rockets.
Rondo out of rotation.
Put Kuz or Morris in starting five.
Play Caruso more minutes. |
I didnt want to say this but will - loss of AB hurt but I figured loss of Rondo helped. Most of the year his D hurt and he has more net negative. Problem is Vogel has a thing for him. If he insists playing Rondo 20 minutes a game this series, the Lakers are likely done. |
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PASTOR RILEY
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| rybee wrote: | They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
nope |
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anth2000
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| I am hoping Vogel is smarter than this |
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TDRock
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Game going in on our stagnant offense. |
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socalfan21
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| Its clear the lakers need a 3rd scorer and he isn't on this roster... |
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eddiejonze
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| Zillethai wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Zillethai wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Rondo is a washed up big name player who wasn’t even that big of a name to begin with. |
You must be young. Rondo was a top 5 point guard once upon a time |
...Says guy who joined in 2017 |
Yeah. I was born in 2017 too believe it or not. My first act out of the womb was to create a Lakers Ground account. |
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HeatCandela
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Yea, this is just a slight detour. We take the next 4! Go Lakers!
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rybee
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | rybee wrote: | They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
Did we beat them once after they go small ball? Didn’t think so
Good news is that home court is meaningless inside the bubble |
Small sample size.
I don't count the last seeding game. |
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Don Draper
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We're done in this series if Rondo stays healthy and Vogel continues to be Vogel.
LeBron and AD look like they're playing preseason games.
Hot take: Clippers v. Heat finals looks inevitable |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| rybee wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | rybee wrote: | They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
Did we beat them once after they go small ball? Didn’t think so
Good news is that home court is meaningless inside the bubble |
Small sample size.
I don't count the last seeding game. |
Of course, but Vogel still haven’t found a way to attack them inside, and make them Pay for the size |
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| Don Draper wrote: | We're done in this series if Rondo stays healthy and Vogel continues to be Vogel.
LeBron and AD look like they're playing preseason games.
Hot take: Clippers v. Heat finals looks inevitable |
We're one injury away from returning to True Contender status. |
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TDRock
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Caron pointing out that JKidd not being on the bench likely hurt.
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rybee
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | rybee wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | rybee wrote: | They beat us down tonight.
Still think we will take this in 6 |
Did we beat them once after they go small ball? Didn’t think so
Good news is that home court is meaningless inside the bubble |
Small sample size.
I don't count the last seeding game. |
Of course, but Vogel still haven’t found a way to attack them inside, and make them Pay for the size |
I agree Vogel has been outcoached, he needs to adjust. |
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Brawn13
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| Need to catch the ball closer to the basket |
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cirehawk
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| Zillethai wrote: | | cirehawk wrote: | | DrDent wrote: | | Leif wrote: | | Tied in rebounds right now. |
Yep -
My concern is not just the loss, it's the fact this staff and team have yet to figure out the Rocket rubix cube. A bunch of small guys playing small ball and tossing 3s and going at the hoop, who by the way are playing up on the Lakers on D, bumping them, and by the 4th quarter in this game had forced the Lakers into being a team with 4 guys (including AD) tossing 3s from the outside.
But fact is since the Rockets went all in on crazy small ball, Lakers just havent figured them out, often looking outclassed and clueless. I dont have an answer.
At first I was big on just going at them with bigs over and over on offense. That really hasnt worked. Then I'm like fine, try going small - but the Lakers get overmatched in playing the Rockets style.
Is this just a bad matchup for this team? I'm not "panicking" from this one game, but rather now it is 3 straight where the end result has been the Rockets just making the Lakers look very ordinary and out of sorts.
Staff and players need something better than this is all I have to say. |
That hasn't worked because AD either refuses to, or is incapable of showing some DAWG and deciding those little guys aren't going to keep pushing him off the block. |
AD doesn't have a low center of gravity. Way too easy for smaller low center gravity guys (Tucker) to push him around. It seems as if he's always collapsing on the floor and rolling around |
I'll agree with that to a point. He is definitely always getting knocked around. But at some point it has to be a mindset. And too often his mindset is to "settle" whenever anyone gets a little physical with him. |
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KingKobe20
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Getting held under 100 points by a team who no one is taller than 6’9 should tell you something.
Our aggressiveness was horrible after the first 5 minutes of the game.
They got easy buckets all night while we had to work our asses off for our small amount.
Can’t let the refs take us out of the game as well.
Gotta bounce back strong for Game 2 🙏🏀🙏🏀🙏 |
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eddiejonze
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| Don Draper wrote: | We're done in this series if Rondo stays healthy and Vogel continues to be Vogel.
LeBron and AD look like they're playing preseason games.
Hot take: Clippers v. Heat finals looks inevitable |
We needed Jimmy Buckets tonight.
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Gellollo
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So did Houston wake up the "sleeping giant" once again?  |
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