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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:23 pm    Post subject:

I can’t blame him for wanting to avoid the health risk and spreading that potentially to his family.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:26 pm    Post subject:

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Not to be rude, but you clearly haven't been paying attention for the last four years. The only way to fix this is at the ballot box and even with a "blue wave" in November and some responsible adults in power around January 2020, there's still probably idiots running Texas, Arizona and Florida actively telling people not to wear masks.


You're not being rude. You're actually making the same point I am. This problem COULD be fixed. But hasn't and won't be till 2020 best case scenario.

The shortest distance between where we are and where we should be is a unified legislative and executive branch making and enforcing law that can properly combat this pandemic in our country.

Until that happens, sadly everybody will have to make the screwed up decision between $ and health.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:43 pm    Post subject:

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Can’t say I blame him. But this further proves this whole restart is a joke. Even if we won, or whoever, no one is ever going to give this year validity. Just scrap this crap.


We dumped all our assets for a post-prime LBJ and one year of AD. Scrapping this year is not good for us.


1 year of AD is based on what? you know for a fact that he is not signing with us?


There's an old saying that goes like this: A mother tells his son before going to the park "If those kids don't want to play with you, and it's your ball, you take that ball away from them and come home".

I think lebron is going to use AD as leverage for us to extend his contract. If Jeannie doesn't want to then he's going to take AD with him.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:07 pm    Post subject:

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Can’t say I blame him. But this further proves this whole restart is a joke. Even if we won, or whoever, no one is ever going to give this year validity. Just scrap this crap.


So do we wait until there's an effective therapeutic or vaccine?


It’s a fair question. It might have to get to that. So what’s happens to this tournament if by chance a top player, Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis, etc gets covid. We just delay the series for 2 weeks? And judging by how it now seems a daily new player testing positive, it’s bound to happen.

Can you imagine, Game 4, Lakers Clips, LAL up 2-1 and say AD test positive. The potential ****show this has in the making is insane.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:53 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:25 pm    Post subject:

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It’s a fair question. It might have to get to that. So what’s happens to this tournament if by chance a top player, Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis, etc gets covid. We just delay the series for 2 weeks?


If a player gets sick, he has to sit out until he recovers. The games will go on without him. Doesn't matter if the player is a reserve or a superstar -- same rules for everyone.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:32 pm    Post subject:

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It’s a fair question. It might have to get to that. So what’s happens to this tournament if by chance a top player, Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis, etc gets covid. We just delay the series for 2 weeks?


If a player gets sick, he has to sit out until he recovers. The games will go on without him. Doesn't matter if the player is a reserve or a superstar -- same rules for everyone.


Even with stricter guidelines it could happen to anyone at anytime, the just or unjust. That's why we can't think the sky is falling because AB is out. Having a tournament covid free is like expecting a thread on LG to be free of political talk.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:43 pm    Post subject:

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It’s a fair question. It might have to get to that. So what’s happens to this tournament if by chance a top player, Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis, etc gets covid. We just delay the series for 2 weeks?


If a player gets sick, he has to sit out until he recovers. The games will go on without him. Doesn't matter if the player is a reserve or a superstar -- same rules for everyone.


Even with stricter guidelines it could happen to anyone at anytime, the just or unjust. That's why we can't think the sky is falling because AB is out. Having a tournament covid free is like expecting a thread on LG to be free of political talk.



True, any team -- including us -- could lose players to covid. But still, we start at a disadvantage if key players decide to not participate.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:17 pm    Post subject:

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Having a tournament covid free is like expecting a thread on LG to be free of political talk when a once in a century pandemic that’s killed more Americans than WWI is going on.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:10 pm    Post subject:

My playoff rotation


McGee-12/Dwight-12/AD-24
AD-16/Morris-20/Kuz-12
LeBron-40/Kuz-8
DG-30/KCP-10/Wild Card-8
KCP-20/Caruso-28

Wild card=Waiters, Q.Cook, Jr Smith....Rondo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:32 pm    Post subject:

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My playoff rotation


McGee-12/Dwight-12/AD-24
AD-16/Morris-20/Kuz-12
LeBron-40/Kuz-8
DG-30/KCP-10/Wild Card-8
KCP-20/Caruso-28

Wild card=Waiters, Q.Cook, Jr Smith....Rondo.


There is no reality where Caruso plays more minutes than Kuzma. Kuz already plays more minutes than both Caruso or Bradley. I think people are really missing the obvious here that the most likely player to pick up more minutes is going to be Kuz.

KCP quietly has played the 3rd most minutes on the team behind AD and Bron. He should get the start. We need to have Rondo as PG and either Waiter or Caruso as SG options off the bench. That leaves us under sized, but if we add JR we get a bit more size and more shooting off the bench to replace the starter minutes KCP and Kuz will soak up.

Losing AB sucks, but it's not nearly as devastating as losing Dwight would be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:42 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Chick's Magic Johnson wrote:
Not to be rude, but you clearly haven't been paying attention for the last four years. The only way to fix this is at the ballot box and even with a "blue wave" in November and some responsible adults in power around January 2020, there's still probably idiots running Texas, Arizona and Florida actively telling people not to wear masks.


You're not being rude. You're actually making the same point I am. This problem COULD be fixed. But hasn't and won't be till 2020 best case scenario.

The shortest distance between where we are and where we should be is a unified legislative and executive branch making and enforcing law that can properly combat this pandemic in our country.

Until that happens, sadly everybody will have to make the screwed up decision between $ and health.


Ballot box... you know what Obama, Trump, and Biden have in common? A penchant for funding more prisons and arming the police with military grade weaponry. Sonic cannons, shock grenades, Lotus helicopters, and chemical (tear) bullets. The very same that pacified and scattered peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park. Ballot box? Go back to sleep.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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There is no reality where Caruso plays more minutes than Kuzma.


Sure there is. It's a positional issue. Kuz isn't going to play guard, so he's not going to grab the minutes that Bradley vacates. Caruso might.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:07 pm    Post subject:

Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
dcarter4kobe wrote:
My playoff rotation


McGee-12/Dwight-12/AD-24
AD-16/Morris-20/Kuz-12
LeBron-40/Kuz-8
DG-30/KCP-10/Wild Card-8
KCP-20/Caruso-28

Wild card=Waiters, Q.Cook, Jr Smith....Rondo.


There is no reality where Caruso plays more minutes than Kuzma. Kuz already plays more minutes than both Caruso or Bradley. I think people are really missing the obvious here that the most likely player to pick up more minutes is going to be Kuz.

KCP quietly has played the 3rd most minutes on the team behind AD and Bron. He should get the start. We need to have Rondo as PG and either Waiter or Caruso as SG options off the bench. That leaves us under sized, but if we add JR we get a bit more size and more shooting off the bench to replace the starter minutes KCP and Kuz will soak up.

Losing AB sucks, but it's not nearly as devastating as losing Dwight would be.


I like the 3 to challenge for the 8 wildcard minutes, but I'd still plan for a shorter rotation. That includes not justifying Javale's 10 minutes and being the bad guy in asking him to stay home. You end up with:

38 min: James and Davis
28min: KCP, Green and Kuzma
20 min: Caruso, Howard and Morris
Rondo the 12 non LBJ min, again wildcard 8 min

KCP 28/Rondo 12/Caruso 8
Green 28/Caruso 12/wildcard 8
James 38/Kuzma 10
Kuzma 18/Morris 20/Davis 10
Davis 28/Howard 20
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:11 pm    Post subject:

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Ballot box... you know what Obama, Trump, and Biden have in common? A penchant for funding more prisons and arming the police with military grade weaponry. Sonic cannons, shock grenades, Lotus helicopters, and chemical (tear) bullets. The very same that pacified and scattered peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park. Ballot box? Go back to sleep.


I'm tempted to go down this rabbit hole with you. And dissect the false equivalency your first sentence implies (between those 3 men). But I'll pass.
FWIW, I've had serious concerns about policing and the prison industrial complex most of my life.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:16 pm    Post subject:

fansincemagic wrote:
Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
dcarter4kobe wrote:
My playoff rotation


McGee-12/Dwight-12/AD-24
AD-16/Morris-20/Kuz-12
LeBron-40/Kuz-8
DG-30/KCP-10/Wild Card-8
KCP-20/Caruso-28

Wild card=Waiters, Q.Cook, Jr Smith....Rondo.


There is no reality where Caruso plays more minutes than Kuzma. Kuz already plays more minutes than both Caruso or Bradley. I think people are really missing the obvious here that the most likely player to pick up more minutes is going to be Kuz.

KCP quietly has played the 3rd most minutes on the team behind AD and Bron. He should get the start. We need to have Rondo as PG and either Waiter or Caruso as SG options off the bench. That leaves us under sized, but if we add JR we get a bit more size and more shooting off the bench to replace the starter minutes KCP and Kuz will soak up.

Losing AB sucks, but it's not nearly as devastating as losing Dwight would be.


I like the 3 to challenge for the 8 wildcard minutes, but I'd still plan for a shorter rotation. That includes not justifying Javale's 10 minutes and being the bad guy in asking him to stay home. You end up with:

38 min: James and Davis
28min: KCP, Green and Kuzma
20 min: Caruso, Howard and Morris
Rondo the 12 non LBJ min, again wildcard 8 min

KCP 28/Rondo 12/Caruso 8
Green 28/Caruso 12/wildcard 8
James 38/Kuzma 10
Kuzma 18/Morris 20/Davis 10
Davis 28/Howard 20


McGee needs some mins.. he's length and speed in the starting 5 is a big advantage. Besides, D39 is the one that might not play.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:31 am    Post subject:

I do not take an issue with AB's decision, but I gotta say, this does put a dent in the team's armor (literally, as in defense).

We lose a viable option to help pester opposing guards, who could also hit a 3. Considering the team's identity is defense first, looking at JR Smith to me is not an appealing option as a replacement.

This also means likely more Rondo than it does AC (even before COVID, we know coach preferred Rondo over AC most of the time). And as much as we love AC, there were games where his defense just was not cutting it (e.g. individual matchup), and AB would often be the plug for that.

Frustrating because I honestly felt this team was really gelling and getting into a ryhthm, especially AB. If I was looking for a replacement, I'd see if there is any type of player who is more defense minded and is not shabby at a 3...not sure there is one out there available. But I'm not a JR fan (and I'm not just talking about his bungled play in the finals) as a replacement for him, I just see it as a significant downgrade on the defensive side of the ball.

But, we are at where we are at. I'm hoping we pull something better than what I'm reading
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:46 pm    Post subject:

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Start Alex Caruso

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Time to fully unleash the GOAT
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J.R. Smith to the Lakers may not be a done deal. Add Nick Young to the list as a possible replacement for Avery Bradley. According to one of Young’s best friends - Swaggy P has been contacted by the Lakers.

How does Laker Nation feel about Swaggy P possibly joining the LAL? 👀


https://twitter.com/showtimeforum/status/1276269952270360576?s=21

Slim pickings and I always liked SwaggyP but if I’m the Lakers I would not touch 2020 Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

JR is not the ideal choice but he is > than Young or Crawford imo.
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J.R. Smith to the Lakers may not be a done deal. Add Nick Young to the list as a possible replacement for Avery Bradley. According to one of Young’s best friends - Swaggy P has been contacted by the Lakers.

How does Laker Nation feel about Swaggy P possibly joining the LAL? 👀


https://twitter.com/showtimeforum/status/1276269952270360576?s=21

Slim pickings and I always liked SwaggyP but if I’m the Lakers I would not touch 2020 Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

JR is not the ideal choice but he is > than Young or Crawford imo.


i personally prefer Iman Shumpert
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J.R. Smith to the Lakers may not be a done deal. Add Nick Young to the list as a possible replacement for Avery Bradley. According to one of Young’s best friends - Swaggy P has been contacted by the Lakers.

How does Laker Nation feel about Swaggy P possibly joining the LAL? 👀


https://twitter.com/showtimeforum/status/1276269952270360576?s=21

Slim pickings and I always liked SwaggyP but if I’m the Lakers I would not touch 2020 Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

JR is not the ideal choice but he is > than Young or Crawford imo.


i personally prefer Iman Shumpert


Iman Shumpert also an ok option. I really hope they aren’t really considering Young or Crawford.
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J.R. Smith to the Lakers may not be a done deal. Add Nick Young to the list as a possible replacement for Avery Bradley. According to one of Young’s best friends - Swaggy P has been contacted by the Lakers.

How does Laker Nation feel about Swaggy P possibly joining the LAL? 👀


https://twitter.com/showtimeforum/status/1276269952270360576?s=21

Slim pickings and I always liked SwaggyP but if I’m the Lakers I would not touch 2020 Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

JR is not the ideal choice but he is > than Young or Crawford imo.


i personally prefer Iman Shumpert


Iman Shumpert also an ok option. I really hope they aren’t really considering Young or Crawford.


yeah. I checked and JR is 34, N young is 35 while Iman is 29. plays defense too
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J.R. Smith to the Lakers may not be a done deal. Add Nick Young to the list as a possible replacement for Avery Bradley. According to one of Young’s best friends - Swaggy P has been contacted by the Lakers.

How does Laker Nation feel about Swaggy P possibly joining the LAL? 👀


https://twitter.com/showtimeforum/status/1276269952270360576?s=21

Slim pickings and I always liked SwaggyP but if I’m the Lakers I would not touch 2020 Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

JR is not the ideal choice but he is > than Young or Crawford imo.


I don’t think Nick Young or JR Smith are that far off as far as bringing Impact to a team but the big thing is that JR has familiarity with LeBron which should give him the edge.
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I wouldn’t mind if Young is back with the Lakers, it would be cool to see him play here while the team is a title contender.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:29 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t think Nick Young or JR Smith are that far off as far as bringing Impact to a team



Nick Young played his last NBA game in December 2018, and JR played his last NBA game in November 2019.

If we're going to sign players based on nostalgia, why not ink James Worthy to a contract.
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