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What to Make of the New Developments in the Breonna Taylor Case

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Sept 28, 2020
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Last week, the state of Kentucky announced that the three officers involved in the killing of Breonna Taylor would not be charged with any crimes directly connected to her death. Since then, several new pieces of evidence have emerged complicating the picture the state—and the police—have painted.

Here are the new developments.

Hankison pleaded not guilty.

Brett Hankison, the only officer to be charged with a crime stemming from the incident, pleaded not guilty in court on Monday. Hankison was charged with three counts of first-degree wanton endangerment over bullets that pierced a neighboring apartment occupied by a man, a pregnant woman, and a child. According to the state, Hankison fired his gun 10 times through “a sliding glass door and through a bedroom window.” Hankison was fired in June for violating department policy but is appealing that decision. The attorney general’s office has said that Hankison’s actions showed “extreme indifference to human life” but that they did not know if any of his bullets hit Taylor.

Critics have demanded to know why Hankison was charged with endangering Taylor’s neighbors but not Taylor herself, given the alleged recklessness of his shooting. If Hankison is convicted on all three charges, he faces between three and 15 years in prison.

The ballistics reports doesn’t fully support the state’s account of events.

Kentucky attorney general Daniel Cameron’s narrative is one of self-defense: the three officers who fired their weapons did so because Taylor’s boyfriend Kenneth Walker had shot at them first, hitting Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly in the thigh.

According to Walker, he and Taylor were awoken to hammering at the door—but no identification from police—and called out to ask who was there. (Police say they announced themselves before knocking down the door.) Walker and Taylor, alarmed at the prospect of an intruder, dressed quickly and walked into the hallway. When Walker saw one or more figures on the other side of the hallway, he fired a warning shot out of fear, he said. He has said that he was afraid that the intruder was Jamarcus Glover, Taylor’s ex-boyfriend and the subject of the drug investigation that led to the raid. When Mattingly entered the apartment, he was struck by a bullet in the thigh, and he and the other officers began firing at Walker and Taylor in response.

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More videos from the scene appeared to circulate on social media.

In his press conference, Cameron said that there was “no video or body camera footage of the officers’ attempted execution of a search warrant.” It appears true that Mattingly, Hankison, and Cosgrove were not wearing body cameras. But other officers who were at the scene after the shooting had activated body cameras. These videos appear to bolster the claim that the police had misled the public about the existence of video evidence.

Over the weekend, clips of apparent body camera footage, allegedly obtained from an attorney for the Taylor family, circulated on social media. The videos were posted by a man named Kendrick Wilson, another client of the same attorney. Wilson said the lawyer obtained the body camera footage from the family’s $12 million settlement with the city. Under the terms of the settlement, the family cannot release evidence provided by the city. Wilson is not an independent party in the matter: the Taylor family lawyer also said that he hired Wilson as an investigator to work on the Taylor case, and the lawyer’s work representing Wilson has been for a pending harassment lawsuit against Hankison.

But if the videos Wilson posted can be trusted, they seem to show some details from the scene not already shared with the public. According to the Courier-Journal:

In one video clip Wilson posted, an officer he claims is not Hankison says his rounds went through Taylor’s window. In another, an officer can be heard stating that there was a “Black female” shot inside, along with the shooter—indicating that police might have known that Taylor had been seriously wounded before Walker exited the apartment and was arrested.

Videos also appear to show police intimidating Walker.

According to Vice, body camera footage shows that as Walker walked slowly backwards during his arrest, following the officers’ orders, a narcotics dog jumped at him. An officer shouted at Walker, “Walk straight back or I will send this dog on you.” When Walker asks what he had done, Hankison replied: “You’re going to prison, that’s what’s going on. For the rest of your (bleep) life.”

The confusion over the case has led to calls from the Taylor family for the transcripts from the grand jury decision to be made public. It’s still unclear if the members of the grand jury were given the option to decide if the officers should be charged with any form of homicide, or if the state had decided the charges—and matter of self-defense—for them.


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Breonna Taylor: Kentucky attorney general agrees to release grand jury recordings

Juror had sued to release transcripts, saying ‘absolute truth of how this matter was handled’ should be published


Kentucky’s attorney general has said he will release a recording of the grand jury proceedings in the Breonna Taylor case, after a judge ordered they be filed in court by noon on Wednesday. It follows an anonymous juror suing for them to be made public.

Attorney general, Daniel Cameron, said in a statement: “The Grand Jury is meant to be a secretive body. It’s apparent that the public interest in this case isn’t going to allow that to happen.”

Cameron said the special prosecutor had an “ethical obligation not to release the recording from the Grand Jury proceedings, and we stand by our belief that such a release could compromise the ongoing federal investigation and could have unintended consequences such as poisoning the jury pool”.

“Despite these concerns, we will comply with the Judge’s order to release the recording on Wednesday. The release of the recording will also address the legal complaint filed by an anonymous grand juror.”

The anonymous juror had sued to release transcripts from the trial of three police officers accused of shooting and killing Breonna Taylor, saying that court documents from the closed proceedings should be published and that jurors should be able speak publicly about the case.

“The full story and absolute truth of how this matter was handled from beginning to end is now an issue of great public interest and has become a large part of the discussion of public trust throughout the country,” the attorney for the juror wrote in the court filing.

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The filing on Monday specifically cited the Kentucky attorney general, Daniel Cameron, accusing him of using the grand jury “as a shield to deflect accountability and responsibility for those decisions”, according to the Louisville Courier-Journal.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:38 am    Post subject:

^^^^ Great news! Cameron's actions in this particular case cause me to think he is a part of the problem. I'm interested in seeing what evidence was given and what was not to the Grand Jury. I have a feeling damaging evidence was omitted.

Cameron's been called a Uncle Tom. I don't give him that that level of high esteem and respect. Josiah Henson was a man of character who gave his life to protect slaves who'd escaped. IMO Stepin Fetchit is more apropos.

I trust the recordings will be examined to see if they have been edited or altered.

Of course Daniel Cameron's a Repukelican.

Daily Beast columnist calls Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron an ‘Uncle Tom,’ ‘disgrace to his people’

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:52 am    Post subject:

The request is reasonable. I trust there are means to assure that's all that's redacted. During redacting are both sides present? Is it done before a judge?

Daniel Cameron seeks to delay the release of Breonna Taylor grand jury recordings

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:45 am    Post subject:

Curious to see what this nets out.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:50 am    Post subject:

I too want to see what this will net. Will the juror be able to give her/his side of the story? Does anyone know if the redacting is monitored? If so by who?

Judge grants Kentucky AG's motion to delay release of Breonna Taylor grand jury recording

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:18 am    Post subject:

DANIEL CAMERON
DIDN'T RAISE MURDER, MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES ...
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Cameron says the case he presented to the grand jury is that the officers were fully justified in firing their weapons because Breonna's boyfriend had fired first at them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:28 am    Post subject:

Hearing some reports now that the one person whose statement said the cops did identify themselves actually said one cop said to him, as he was in the stairwell, "police, go back inside". He was not called to testify to the grand jury but prosecuters used his statement as backing up police contention they announced themselves. Maybe without any context or giving his exact words. About a dozen other people, including Breonna's boyfriend say they did not hear anything said by these cops in plainclothes as they pounded on the door and then broke in.

If prosecuters mislead the grand jury on this, wonder what else they did.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:53 am    Post subject:

So why did Breonna Taylor's boyfirend call in her death to 911? That's what I want to know. Don't police normally call for the ambulance in situations like this?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:46 pm    Post subject:

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So why did Breonna Taylor's boyfirend call in her death to 911? That's what I want to know. Don't police normally call for the ambulance in situations like this?


They didn't give a damn about a Black woman bleeding out on the floor. They were too busy calling officer down and disarming Kenneth Walker. There is body cam video surfacing from patrol officers who responded immediately after. Shows them putting the cop shot in the leg into a squad car to get him to hospital and telling Walker to walk backwards towards them or they would sic a police dog on him. My guess is that after firing 32 rounds into the apt and surrounding apts the cops retreated, calling officer down and a stunned Walker called 911. Part of his call released has him crying, saying someone broke in and shot his girlfriend, calling her name, asking for help. Then more cops arrived and focused on first aid for the cop and on securing the scene, probably stepping over Breonna's body as they did so.
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It’s nice to see that sick rocker’s concern for the accuracy of the discussion on this has brought him back to admit he likely got his one sided facts wrong due to just jumping on propaganda. Or not.
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Internal document shows Trump officials were told to make comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse should be described as defending himself from rioters in Kenosha, according to DHS talking points obtained by NBC News.

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Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News.

In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners."

Another set of talking points distributed to Homeland Security officials said the media were incorrectly labeling the group Patriot Prayer as racists after clashes erupted between the group and protesters in Portland, Oregon.

It is unclear whether any of the talking points originated at the White House or within Homeland Security's own press office.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:52 am    Post subject:

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Internal document shows Trump officials were told to make comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse should be described as defending himself from rioters in Kenosha, according to DHS talking points obtained by NBC News.

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Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News.

In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners."

Another set of talking points distributed to Homeland Security officials said the media were incorrectly labeling the group Patriot Prayer as racists after clashes erupted between the group and protesters in Portland, Oregon.

It is unclear whether any of the talking points originated at the White House or within Homeland Security's own press office.


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Vigilante law is unacceptable. This is not the Wild Wild West. I think Rittenhouse broke the law. If I'm not mistaken you have to be 18 to carry a weapon in Wisconson. Kyle was 17. He should be charged with a crime not be touted as a hero.

Trump doesn't hide his racism any more. He flaunts it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:39 am    Post subject:

I was concerned that the Grand Jury recordings in the Breanna Taylor case would be tampered with. I've been informed the court ordered the AG to file the unredacted audio under seal. There will be no tampering.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:54 pm    Post subject:

Disappointed. This doesn't reveal much. AD didn't recommend charges against some officers. That was known. I'm hoping the disgruntled juror will be allowed to give her/his side of the story.

Grand jury recordings capture dispute over Breonna Taylor’s final moments, but not prosecutors’ recommendations

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Internal document shows Trump officials were told to make comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse should be described as defending himself from rioters in Kenosha, according to DHS talking points obtained by NBC News.

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Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News.

In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners."

Another set of talking points distributed to Homeland Security officials said the media were incorrectly labeling the group Patriot Prayer as racists after clashes erupted between the group and protesters in Portland, Oregon.

It is unclear whether any of the talking points originated at the White House or within Homeland Security's own press office.


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Vigilante law is unacceptable. This is not the Wild Wild West. I think Rittenhouse broke the law. If I'm not mistaken you have to be 18 to carry a weapon in Wisconson. Kyle was 17. He should be charged with a crime not be touted as a hero.

Trump doesn't hide his racism any more. He flaunts it.


He broke no laws to my knowledge. Regardless of what people think the law clearly states you are allowed to open carry across state lines at 17 years of age. The question the courts will have to figure is based on the video footage if he absolutely had to use his gun to defend his life based on the evidence.

He is probably going to go free because they went with murder 1 which lawyers have already said based on the video is basically impossible. The prosecutors will have to convince the jury that he premeditated to come kill some one. It would have been easier if it was murder 3.
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Regardless of what people think the law clearly states you are allowed to open carry across state lines at 17 years of age. .

First time hearing this. Do you have a source?
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Regardless of what people think the law clearly states you are allowed to open carry across state lines at 17 years of age. .

First time hearing this. Do you have a source?


I would highly doubt that even if the open carry laws allow carrying across state lines, that wouldn't supersede the fact that Rittenhouse was not legally allowed to possess the weapon in either state at all. So whether he "legally" crossed state lines with it, possessing it was still illegal.
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KobeGOATMambaRIP wrote:
Regardless of what people think the law clearly states you are allowed to open carry across state lines at 17 years of age. .

First time hearing this. Do you have a source?


I would highly doubt that even if the open carry laws allow carrying across state lines, that wouldn't supersede the fact that Rittenhouse was not legally allowed to possess the weapon in either state at all. So whether he "legally" crossed state lines with it, possessing it was still illegal.


I've read up alot on Rittenhouse. And that poster is the 1st person I've seen claim his actions were lawful leading up to the shooting.
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Regardless of what people think the law clearly states you are allowed to open carry across state lines at 17 years of age. .

First time hearing this. Do you have a source?


It doesn't exist.

Let me clarify. There is no such law and if you try to open carry in a state that doesn't allow it, you will not have a good time.

I'll dumb it down for the cheap seats...

IF YOU CARRY GUN WHERE YOU ARE AND THEY ARE OK WITH IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN DO IT EVERYWHERE
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:50 am    Post subject:

I've been searching to see if Rittenhouse possessed a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID). If he didn't he's in violation.

At any rate, vigilante law is unacceptable. This is not the Wild Wild West. Citizens aren't burdened with the task of protecting businesses. That's the job of policemen/women. Kyle is another George Zimmerman wanna be. People of that ilk should be punished not praised.

Illinois is not an open carry state. If your state is not open carry and you carry a weapon across state lines, I think you're in violation. I'm not a lawyer, I'm speculating.
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Officer Arrested in Jonathan Price Killing

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Racist Karen Gets Jail Time

Lena Hernandez, the "Karen" who was accused of a slew of racist tirades in Southern California over the past year, is taking a plea deal ... and she is getting jail time.

Law enforcement sources tell us Hernandez will take a deal on her misdemeanor battery charge, and in exchange, prosecutors will seek a sentence of 45 days in Los Angeles County Jail.

Our sources say Hernandez will be in court Tuesday for a judge to accept the deal. We're told Hernandez will be on probation for the next 3 years, and she's gotta complete a year-long anger management class. Our sources say she will also be ordered to pay about $1,500 and can't own a firearm for the next 10 years.

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Officer Arrested in Jonathan Price Killing

Texas officer charged with murder after shooting a 31-year-old Black man who tried to intervene in a dispute, attorney says


Do these guys resemble one another George Zimmerman /// Shaun Lucas
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