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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:50 am    Post subject:

David Aldridge is 100% correct

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:07 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
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I may be wrong. I think that was meant to be a question. ? instead of .


Yeah, it’s a rhetorical question.

And it wasn’t a question about this instance, since no one questions that this was race related.

It was a rhetorical question about all the other times that the race card is played and people question if bringing race up was right or premature.

David Aldridge’s last comment basically says - don’t ever question when the race card is played.


No it doesn’t. It reminds people that racism, not the accusation of it, is the larger problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:32 am    Post subject:

David Aldridge is 100% correct

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:28 am    Post subject:

I think that interpretation is kind of what he was getting at. There are false accusations of everything. You don’t hear people saying “he played the murder card” though. Because the term has been created to diminish the impact of racism accusations.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:50 am    Post subject:

Hillary got roasted for "playing the woman card" when she ran in 2008. It was meant to dissuade her from discussing the real prejudice and inequality faced by women. So she downplayed being woman candidate. In 2016 she realized that it had done no good to avoid discussing misogyny and was more open in discussing women's issues and sexism. Does that mean she "played the woman card?" No. It meant she was sick and tired of the misogyny and decided to address it in the open.

Black people don't "play the race card." They can choose to openly discuss race and the ways racism affects them. This is not playing the race card. Playing the race card is when WHITE PEOPLE accuse BLACK PEOPLE of playing the race card in order to shut them up because those discussions make them feel uncomfortable. White people accusing blacks of playing the race card is in fact exactly how WHITE PEOPLE PLAY THE RACE CARD.

Pretending it's the other way around is 100% bull-(bleep).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 am    Post subject:

Isn't it interesting how some people admit we have racism in this country and yet no single incident is ever racist? And if people connect the dots of all the racist incidents they are playing the race card? Again, that's transparent racist propaganda bull-(bleep) trying to flip the script and blame the wrong party for racism. It's like right-wing racists blaming Obama for racism. Just, no. You should be embarrassed to play that game in public because WE SEE YOU.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:02 am    Post subject:

David Aldridge is 100% correct

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:49 pm    Post subject:

David Aldridge is 100% correct

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:30 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Isn't it interesting how some people admit we have racism in this country and yet no single incident is ever racist?


Seems like every poster in here agrees that what this white woman did was racist.

ChefLinda wrote:
And if people connect the dots of all the racist incidents they are playing the race card?


Playing the race card has to do with bringing race into an issue where it appears race was not an issue.


ChefLinda wrote:
Black people don't "play the race card."


ChefLinda wrote:
Playing the race card is when WHITE PEOPLE accuse BLACK PEOPLE of playing the race card in order to shut them up because those discussions make them feel uncomfortable. White people accusing blacks of playing the race card is in fact exactly how WHITE PEOPLE PLAY THE RACE CARD.


Here's an example of 3 black men discussing if another black man was playing the race card. [No white people in this discussion]

Speak For Yourself | Issue with Donovan McNabb playing race card?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xyxysdpKck


Sorry, but WTF are you talking about?

If I was to quip "HE'S calling ME fat?" about someone who's 300 pounds, I'm making no assertions that I have 3% body fat and have never eaten a cookie. I'm saying that given the facts, that person is in no position to be making that judgment about other people.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:38 am    Post subject:

The woman got her dog back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:16 am    Post subject:

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Sorry, but WTF are you talking about?

If I was to quip "HE'S calling ME fat?" about someone who's 300 pounds, I'm making no assertions that I have 3% body fat and have never eaten a cookie. I'm saying that given the facts, that person is in no position to be making that judgment about other people.


I thought I was pretty clear? I said I agreed with EVERYTHING David Aldridge said in his essay, EXCEPT his last remark.

What is it that has you confused?

He wrote a whole essay about a scenario between a black man and a white woman in Central Park.

And concluded it with a remark about race card. It wasn't a race card issue. No one accused anyone of playing the race card in that singular scenario. The scenario that he was writing about.

He used that one scenario to jump to another conclusion regarding race cards.

I disagreed with that remark. That's it.

It's one thing to disagree with what I'm saying. It's another thing to say WTF are you talking about?

Like I said, I'm just sharing my opinion of how I interpreted that essay to me.

You posted the essay. I shared my feelings on it. That's it. If that bothers you, maybe I shouldn't have shared my thoughts on it.

I was under the impression that you shared that essay so people can read it and share their opinions on it? That's exactly what I did.

I didn't get from the essay the same reaction that you did. If you're looking for a reaction that 100% fits your own reaction, then tell me what you're looking for and I can go back and edit my posts to fit what you want to see/read.

If you're looking for an honest reaction, then that was my honest reaction. I didn't (and still don't) agree with David Aldridge's last remark.

The thing I don't get around here is, why is there so much pressure to interpret/see/react to things the same way?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject:

Can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's the whole idea of "the race card" as a concept. It was coined specifically to disparage all claims of racism by being easy to throw at any. That's it's designed purpose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:11 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
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Sorry, but WTF are you talking about?

If I was to quip "HE'S calling ME fat?" about someone who's 300 pounds, I'm making no assertions that I have 3% body fat and have never eaten a cookie. I'm saying that given the facts, that person is in no position to be making that judgment about other people.


I thought I was pretty clear? I said I agreed with EVERYTHING David Aldridge said in his essay, EXCEPT his last remark.

What is it that has you confused?

He wrote a whole essay about a scenario between a black man and a white woman in Central Park.

And concluded it with a remark about race card. It wasn't a race card issue. No one accused anyone of playing the race card in that singular scenario. The scenario that he was writing about.

He used that one scenario to jump to another conclusion regarding race cards.

I disagreed with that remark. That's it.

It's one thing to disagree with what I'm saying. It's another thing to say WTF are you talking about?

Like I said, I'm just sharing my opinion of how I interpreted that essay to me.

You posted the essay. I shared my feelings on it. That's it. If that bothers you, maybe I shouldn't have shared my thoughts on it.

I was under the impression that you shared that essay so people can read it and share their opinions on it? That's exactly what I did.

I didn't get from the essay the same reaction that you did. If you're looking for a reaction that 100% fits your own reaction, then tell me what you're looking for and I can go back and edit my posts to fit what you want to see/read.

If you're looking for an honest reaction, then that was my honest reaction. I didn't (and still don't) agree with David Aldridge's last remark.

The thing I don't get around here is, why is there so much pressure to interpret/see/react to things the same way?


I reread Aldridge's article and have a different interpretation and understanding. It's now my opinion it wasn't a question it was a statement.

He had reason to say WE'RE playing the race card. It was apropos.

Amy Cooper introduced the race card when she said "I'm going to call the police and say "There's a African American man threatening my life."

As you said we don't all interpret the same action the same.

LBP I issue to you, give a honest unfettered view to the interpretations of others. You may find a seam that allows their views validity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:42 pm    Post subject:

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I reread Aldridge's article and have a different interpretation and understanding. It's now my opinion it wasn't a question it was a statement.

He had reason to say WE'RE playing the race card. It was apropos.

Amy Cooper introduced the race card when she said "I'm going to call the police and say "There's a African American man threatening my life."

As you said we don't all interpret the same action the same.

LBP I issue to you, give a honest unfettered view to the interpretations of others. You may find a seam that allows their views validity.


Yeah, if you want an honest discussion with me, PM me.

Publicly, I'm just going to say David Aldridge was 100% right and I have no disagreements with anything Mr. David Aldridge wrote in his essay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:03 pm    Post subject:

Any interested Christian Cooper will be on All In With Chris Hayes in a bit. Amy Cooper called 911 on him.
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