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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:15 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- CLIPPERS - 3/8 - Thoughts and :-)) Ratings

Messages Sent... The Lakers had back-to-back tests this weekend. On Friday night, they passed the first test against the league leading Bucks.Today, it was part three of the Lakers/Clippers battle.

The Clippers added more size with a Morris brother and recently Joakim Noah. The Lakers, of course, added a Morris brother and Waiters, who won’t be in the mix for a few games. With tweaks made to the rosters, they went at it.

The four stars on both teams went at it in the first half as the teams traded punches. In the second half, however, the Lakers won the battle of role players.

Avery Bradley lit up his former team with six threes as the Lakers outscored the Clippers by 8 points in the quarter.

“Avery Bradley in that third quarter was the reason we were able to make that run,” LeBron said.

The Lakers took the lead heading into the fourth (41-0 when they are in this situation).

This is where the chess match got interesting. The Lakers offensively went after Lou Williams relentlessly. It didn’t matter how Doc tried to hide him. Whomever he was guarding was coming over to set a screen for the ballhandler. And with that, the Lakers got the defense scrambling again and again for multiple scores. In crunch time it led to a big three by Bradley and another huge reverse jam by AD off LeBron passes.

The Lakers took the 112-103 win over the Clippers and extended to a 6.5 game lead over them in the standings. Thundering “M-V-P” chants from Laker fans at this Clipper home game for LeBron as he closed the game out. Intense, but fun game.


LeBron -- -- He had 16 points on 4-9 shooting in the first half, but it was his work in the fourth that had the Clippers in trouble. He missed some drives early in the fourth, but the attacking allowed Kuzma and Morris to clean up the dribble penetration. Love that he attacked the rim to draw attention. He had settled a little for a couple threes earlier, but even though he missed those drives, it caused big problems for the Clippers and set the table for the rest of the quarter. As we got the ball in his hands at the top of the arc, we sent over whomever Lou Williams was covering to set picks. This allowed LeBron to orchestrate against a scrambling D and the Clippers paid the price. When Lou finally sat, we searched out the Marcus Morris matchup and LeBron attacked that for key scores. Very intentional, relentless offense that had the Clippers in trouble. It also helps that LeBron’s FT shooting in the past couple games has been outstanding. The Stats: He scored 28 points on 7-17 shooting (2-6 from three, 12-14 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 9 assists, 2 blocks and 3 fouls in 35 minutes. He was a +7.

Davis -- -- Consistent two-way minutes. He had 15 points on 5-10 shooting in the first half and 15 more in the second half on 6-9 shooting. No big ups and downs, just consistent and effective. While he picked up a little bit of foul trouble it didn’t really impact his time in a major way in this one. A lot of defensive rotations where he was standing in for charges. Throw in a couple steals (including a nice one early on out on the perimeter to take it the distance for a dunk) and a block and he gave the Clippers some problems. The +12 is impressive considering all the time we ran him without LeBron on the floor. A little bit of chemistry with Rondo in those minutes. He had a pick and pop three (which will make the offense very easy if he can do that with any kind of consistency). He also had an And-1 layup where Rondo found him. KCP also hit him for a baseline jumper. The perimeter game caused the Clippers some issues. He also mixed in an occasional post score or finish around the rim. The Stats: He scored 30 points on 11-19 shooting (1-4 from three, 7-8 from the line) to go with 8 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover and 5 fouls in 34 minutes. He was a +12.

Green -- -- Not a lot of scoring opportunities and he didn’t score off the few he had, shooting blanks today. Defensively, some nice hands again to help with a couple of steals. He picked up a tech in this one for flipping the ball back at the refs after a whistle. He seemed pretty frustrated with them today. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-3 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 4 boards, 2 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 25 minutes. He was a +3.

McGee -- -- Quiet game from McGee in just 12 minutes. We played small quite a bit in this one with Morris. McGee drew FTs on a nice drive and dish from Bradley to set him up and he also dunked off another setup. The Clippers won the battle of the offensive boards in this one 15-9. McGee gave up a putback dunk to Zu early on. We need some better effort from our bigs in that regard. The Stats: He scored 5 points on 1-2 shooting (3-4 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +7.

Bradley -- -- Loved the game from Bradley (of course!). When he picked Beverley clean in the first half at midcourt, took it the distance and scored the layup, you could tell it was on. He got a bogus tech for staring Bev down, but the intensity was set to playoff mode. He knocked down some midrange jumpers and hit a three for 9 points in the first half and was just getting warmed up. Some huge threes in the third quarter for the Lakers. Maybe the biggest was when LeBron sat and Rondo came in and AB sank a couple of them. One he swished a quick-fire corner three off one of our set plays (where we screen for AD to curl into the lane, then the screener pops to corner). That’s the kind of sequence we want more of in the halfcourt when LeBron is sitting. Set plays to create good shots. The other was on a kickout from Rondo when we fell back by 4 in this same stretch. Those were much needed points. He played nearly the entire third and gave the Lakers a massive lift. In the fourth, as we were serving up Lou Williams to LeBron on some screens, Bradley sank an open pick-and-pop three that Lou couldn’t recover to. That was a near backbreaker to go up 9 with 4 minutes left. Love seeing him do this against the Clippers. He rose to the occasion today. The Stats: He scored 24 points on 9-17 shooting (6-12 from three) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 3 turnovers and 2 fouls in 33 minutes. He was a +13.

Caldwell-Pope -- -- It was subtle, but a few key drives by KCP in that fourth quarter. One was against Lou Williams as we were basically telling Doc that we were going to attack Williams this quarter. We put Lou through some screens, we made him work and KCP attacked that. The next drive was one where KCP hit AD for a baseline jumper while LeBron was sitting. I can see Waiters in this role right there. KCP had another where Lou had to recover to him off a LeBron/KCP two-man sequence and he scored an easy layup. Very intentional, methodical work by the Lakers. As a result, Lou kind of disappeared that fourth quarter and was a defensive liability. Also, good job taking a big charge against George in transition late. We kept that transition attack from doing anything crazy today. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 4-6 shooting (1-2 from three) to go with 1 board, 1 assist and 3 fouls in 28 minutes. He was a +9.

Kuzma -- -- Another near double-double in this one. Great sequence to start the fourth quarter. He chased a man over a screen then deflected the pass to get a stop. On the other end, he had back-to-back offensive boards to regain possessions (he scored a putback on LeBron’s dribble penetration miss on the second one of those). That helped the Lakers stretch to a 9-point lead. I love that he’s holding his own defensively on iso situations. Teams are second thinking that and that’s a big improvement. He had a couple of blocks when they tried to attack him. Offensively, some excellent work on the offensive glass (3 boards there, regaining possessions also with fouls by opponents or getting a putback). The three ball needs to be better. He had some wide open ones he’s got to knock down, but overall a vet-like effort from Kuzma. He’s learning and it’s great to see. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-8 shooting (0-4 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 10 boards, 1 steal, 2 blocks and 2 fouls in 22 minutes. He was a -1.

Caruso -- -- Key to this game was keeping Lou Williams in check. AC had some decent minutes against him in the first half, but did not get in the rotation in the second half. This is a little worrisome, but Vogel was very concerned with making Lou Williams work. The price (in Vogel’s mind) apparently was leaving Rondo in the mix as Doc put Paul George on him defensively. I think we were satisfied with that, but the question is if we could have done the same with AC. Consider how the Clippers played it. When Rondo was out there trying to make Lou work, we would bring over Lou to defend a screen and that would usually result in Rondo giving up the ball to KCP or someone who would attack Lou. The Clippers also tried to hide Lou on Green or Bradley. So KCP, Green and Bradley were are perimeter threats to worry about and that caused problems. The Clippers were just too concerned about Rondo’s passing ability to shooters and driving ability around Lou that they dedicated Paul George to him instead of Lou. So we rolled with that and AC was out of the rotation in the second half. I’m curious when Waiters gets up to speed how that also impacts things for AC. But this was a big change in the rotation today. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-1 shooting to go with 1 assist, 1 steal and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -3.

Howard -- -- We didn’t run him in our usual spot to start the fourth quarter. Instead, we went small with Morris and used that to space the floor. That resulted in just one 7-minute stint for Dwight where we were a -9. So very little action today as Vogel changed gears offensively for that small ball and floor spacing. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-1 shooting and had 2 boards, 1 assist, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -9.

Rondo -- -- Key stretch in that third quarter. We sat LeBron after just 5 minutes, unusual to sub him out like that. The earliest we’ve rotated LeBron out that I recall. Rondo was able to keep the ship afloat. He found several shooters for threes during that third. There was one where he probed baseline and Lou Williams was so lost as to what to do once Rondo got past him that the D got completely scrambled and it led to a KCP three. Love seeing us make Lou work on D. In the fourth, the Clippers had Paul George on Rondo with Lou trying to hide on KCP. Being a threat against Lou really set the table. When Lou sat in the fourth, we also sat Rondo just briefly, then brought him back when LeBron sat. No AC at all in this stretch. I think if I’m the Clippers I probably try to stick it out more with Lou on Rondo, but they probably didn’t want to wear him down. It didn’t matter, we wore him down anyway. Rondo also took it to Jackson for a couple of layups, as well, so that didn’t work for the Clippers, either. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-8 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 2 boards, 7 assists, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 22 minutes. He was a +0.

Morris -- -- He and his twin brother came to the game today and went their separate ways to opposing locker rooms. And then went a combined 0-10 from three in this game. Our Morris only went 0-3 from three and didn’t get abused by LeBron on switches late in the game. Markieff was a +7 while Marcus was a -13. I wonder if AD goes up against our Morris brother in practice. Seems likely. And if he occasionally switches on to LeBron and has to deal with him. Kind of interesting if we can learn anything form that. Markieff had a couple of scores at the rim playing off LeBron for his points in this one. Defensively, he blocked Harrell in the post on one play. We had him in Dwight’s role to start the fourth, giving us a little more mobility but also that floor spacing to go to work against as we exposed Lou. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-5 shooting (0-3 from three) to go with 5 boards, 1 block, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 16 minutes. He was a +7.

Vogel -- -- Key Moment: The Lakers lost lead after a couple George threes while LeBron sat midway through the quarter to trail. When LeBron finally returned with 50 seconds left, the Lakers were up 6. Huge stretch to get LeBron rest and we actually edged up the lead by a point there. Great job by the bench playing with purpose offensively, including some nice set sequences.

Key Substitution: Got to go with the big changes in the second half. Howard was a -9 in his 7 first half minutes. Vogel mixed things up by going with Morris in his place and also sat AC for Rondo in that second half. Big moves. But floor spacing and taking advantage of Lou’s poor defense allowed it to work out.

Key Stats: The Lakers had 22 assists, the Clippers just 12. A lot of switching versus getting scramble on D so they made the Clippers play more iso ball...kind of like us in the first game in this series.

Coach’s Challenge: He challenged a blocking foul by Davis with 3:35 left. It was Davis’s fifth foul, otherwise, I don’t think he tries that. Reasonable usage as that’s a big foul, but overturned easily.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: LAKERS -at- CLIPPERS - 3/8 - Thoughts and :-)) Ratings

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Thanks DB.
Big win.

Something switched for this team after the Grizzlies loss last week.
They’ve been competing at a different level.
Especially Bron.

That lineup with Bron sitting in the 3rd changed the game. Some big time moves by Vogel in this one. Like going small with Morris as well over Dwight. You can see now why we signed Morris.

Hope we can get Waiters some rhythm heading into the playoffs. Going to give us even more to work with.
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Thanks DB!! Excellent recap to an excellent outcome! And for the Lakers - stout answer to the pundits who claim the Clippers have more talent.
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Much needed and amazing win. It was great to stick it to those (bleep)
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Thanks, DB!
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Thanks, DB!

I love my Lakers!!!!!
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Lakers beat the Clippers and the Suns beat the Bucks. The Lakers are only two back from Milwaukee. It is a great Sunday.
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Annihilator wrote:
Lakers beat the Clippers and the Suns beat the Bucks. The Lakers are only two back from Milwaukee. It is a great Sunday.


Sure would be nice to reel them in.
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Yay winning!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:10 pm    Post subject:

Have to get back to locking teams down consistently and for longer stretches of the game.

Have to finish the season giving up less that 25 point+ quarters. Approach every quarter with a goal of winning each quarter and allowing LeBron and AD to finish it off in the 4th.

Things are coming together at the right time...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Unless we are in striking distance with the Bucks and really need a win, I'd rest Lebron and AD against the Clippers in April. We know we can beat them.
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Was at the game. It sounded like there were more laker fans on their hc. It must get into clippers heads when they get booed at a home game
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Was at the game. It sounded like there were more laker fans on their hc. It must get into clippers heads when they get booed at a home game


In the playoffs it's about HC advantage and the Clippers simply won't have that advantage. This is the intangible that no one seems to consider. If we meet the Clippers in the finals every game will be strongly for the Lakers. If that doesn't get into their heads, nothing will.
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Great insight, DB, re: Caruso and Rondo. Props to you!

What a great playoff preview weekend!
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Thanks DB!! Excellent recap to an excellent outcome! And for the Lakers - stout answer to the pundits who claim the Clippers have more talent.


I may be biased, but I do not really see how the Clippers have more talent than the Lakers. Lebron & AD are arguably better than Kawhi & PG. Their Morris is a starter while ours is a bench player. Zubac will not start in our lineup. Their bench may be a bit more consistent but have obvious flaws too (see how the Lakers abused Lou for example).
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Doc has the Clippers playing "old fashioned Boston Bully-Ball."
Well the Bully got punched in the face tonight and they had no answer.
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This is a little worrisome, but Vogel was very concerned with making Lou Williams work. The price (in Vogel’s mind) apparently was leaving Rondo in the mix as Doc put Paul George on him defensively. I think we were satisfied with that, but the question is if we could have done the same with AC. Consider how the Clippers played it. When Rondo was out there trying to make Lou work, we would bring over Lou to defend a screen and that would usually result in Rondo giving up the ball to KCP or someone who would attack Lou. The Clippers also tried to hide Lou on Green or Bradley. So KCP, Green and Bradley were are perimeter threats to worry about and that caused problems. The Clippers were just too concerned about Rondo’s passing ability to shooters and driving ability around Lou that they dedicated Paul George to him instead of Lou. So we rolled with that and AC was out of the rotation in the second half. I’m curious when Waiters gets up to speed how that also impacts things for AC. But this was a big change in the rotation today.


I gotta say: DB sees the game like a *pro* coach, props.
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MKSforever wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
Was at the game. It sounded like there were more laker fans on their hc. It must get into clippers heads when they get booed at a home game


In the playoffs it's about HC advantage and the Clippers simply won't have that advantage. This is the intangible that no one seems to consider. If we meet the Clippers in the finals every game will be strongly for the Lakers. If that doesn't get into their heads, nothing will.



It will be a 7 game series with the Lakers having home court in every game.
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ThePageDude wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:

This is a little worrisome, but Vogel was very concerned with making Lou Williams work. The price (in Vogel’s mind) apparently was leaving Rondo in the mix as Doc put Paul George on him defensively. I think we were satisfied with that, but the question is if we could have done the same with AC. Consider how the Clippers played it. When Rondo was out there trying to make Lou work, we would bring over Lou to defend a screen and that would usually result in Rondo giving up the ball to KCP or someone who would attack Lou. The Clippers also tried to hide Lou on Green or Bradley. So KCP, Green and Bradley were are perimeter threats to worry about and that caused problems. The Clippers were just too concerned about Rondo’s passing ability to shooters and driving ability around Lou that they dedicated Paul George to him instead of Lou. So we rolled with that and AC was out of the rotation in the second half. I’m curious when Waiters gets up to speed how that also impacts things for AC. But this was a big change in the rotation today.


I gotta say: DB sees the game like a *pro* coach, props.


Hmm. I thought the Clips were putting PG13 on Rondo b/c he could rove as a free safety off Rondo who was not taking open shots. When I reviewed some of the game I saw PG13 give Rondo a bit of space and sag off towards the paint.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:

This is a little worrisome, but Vogel was very concerned with making Lou Williams work. The price (in Vogel’s mind) apparently was leaving Rondo in the mix as Doc put Paul George on him defensively. I think we were satisfied with that, but the question is if we could have done the same with AC. Consider how the Clippers played it. When Rondo was out there trying to make Lou work, we would bring over Lou to defend a screen and that would usually result in Rondo giving up the ball to KCP or someone who would attack Lou. The Clippers also tried to hide Lou on Green or Bradley. So KCP, Green and Bradley were are perimeter threats to worry about and that caused problems. The Clippers were just too concerned about Rondo’s passing ability to shooters and driving ability around Lou that they dedicated Paul George to him instead of Lou. So we rolled with that and AC was out of the rotation in the second half. I’m curious when Waiters gets up to speed how that also impacts things for AC. But this was a big change in the rotation today.
I gotta say: DB sees the game like a *pro* coach, props.
Hmm. I thought the Clips were putting PG13 on Rondo b/c he could rove as a free safety off Rondo who was not taking open shots. When I reviewed some of the game I saw PG13 give Rondo a bit of space and sag off towards the paint.
Hopefully that will result in Rondo moving to set a screen to help someone get a wide open shot

Glad that AB went after PatBev - good defense sometimes is a good defense. Making it difficult for PatBev to set up their offense will force Kwahi and PG to possibly spend more energy because they will have the need to handle to ball much more
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