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Crazy LA Fan14 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Who got the better end of the Deal: Rad Man for Wilcox |
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Wilcox was one of my favorite Clips but Im happy he's getting more playing time up north. Here are their stats this season:
Viladimir
With LAC-12.3PPG 2.3 APG 1.25SPG .50 BPG 6.5 RPG
Wilcox
with SEA-13.3PPG 5.3 RPG .75 BPG 0SPG .3APG
Another thing to remember is Wilcox only averaged 4ppg with the clippers while Viladmir averaged 9. _________________ A Clipper/Laker Fan
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statman Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Seattle needed a low-post player, the Clippers needed a shooter. This is one of those rare trades that is good for both teams. |
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Luke Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Seattle wins, Radmanovic doesn't play defense and won't be resigned by the Clippers |
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Zhengi Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Umm... this is the Lakers lounge. You should put non-Laker related topics in the NBA forum. _________________ I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce! |
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statman Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Luke wrote: | Seattle wins, Radmanovic doesn't play defense and won't be resigned by the Clippers |
Wilcox doesn' t play any defense and wouldn't have been resigned by the Clippers either. At least Vlade can shoot. |
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kells1220 Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 561 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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statman wrote: | Seattle needed a low-post player, the Clippers needed a shooter. This is one of those rare trades that is good for both teams. |
Agreed. |
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Luke Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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statman wrote: | Luke wrote: | Seattle wins, Radmanovic doesn't play defense and won't be resigned by the Clippers |
Wilcox doesn' t play any defense and wouldn't have been resigned by the Clippers either. At least Vlade can shoot. |
Wilcox shot 7/9 this night and 8/10 the other night.
Rebounds ? Wilcox wins
Blocks ? Wilcox win
only perimeter shooting Rad wins, but when you have Cuttino and Cassel, it's better to keep the big man down low.
As much as his defense is not good , Wilcox is not a matador like rad, who can't play inside.
Now the Clips have no inside presence on the bench : RS , you can survive; PO you'll die with only two inside players. |
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Crazy LA Fan14 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Zhengi wrote: | Umm... this is the Lakers lounge. You should put non-Laker related topics in the NBA forum. |
This is the general NBA Discussion board _________________ A Clipper/Laker Fan
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Lakersfan4ever Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Radman played pretty good defense last night and has an average of 6.5 boards to Wilcox's 5.3 boards. Radman also picks up a good amount of steals.
I think it's a pretty even trade.
But, it's gona be near imposible for clippers to keep both radman and cassell since they both want a starting position+money. maggette and livingston should start there eventually. _________________ Chick will always be loved and remembered. |
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statman Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Luke wrote: |
Wilcox shot 7/9 this night and 8/10 the other night.
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That's fine. He wouldn't have shot like that on the Clippers because he'd be backing up Brand & Kaman, two better post players. There is no questioning that he's a good talent-- that's why the Clippers drafted him so high-- but he just wasn't getting minutes with the Clippers. On the other hand, Vlade can get minutes because he plays SF where they needed perimeter help (at least until Maggette returns).
Quote: | Rebounds ? Wilcox wins |
Actually Vlade averages more boards than Wilcox, but whose counting? Neither is a great rebounder for their size. I"d expect Wilcox to do better since he should have more offensive board opportunities playing so close to the hoop.
Quote: | Blocks ? Wilcox win |
Not really. Wilcox isn't a shotblocker and neither is Radmanovich.
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only perimeter shooting Rad wins, but when you have Cuttino and Cassel, it's better to keep the big man down low.
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Tell that to the Lakers.
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As much as his defense is not good , Wilcox is not a matador like rad, who can't play inside.
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No, Wilcox is a horrible defender. That's why he coudn't even get minutes over rookie James Singleton when he was with the Clippers. Maybe he'll be better with more PT in Seattle. Don't confuse his altheticism with his ability... it's not there yet (and it wouldn't be this year, which is as long as the Clippers were gonna keep him).
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Now the Clips have no inside presence on the bench : RS , you can survive; PO you'll die with only two inside players. |
They still have Z Rebraca, who was playing ahead of Wilcox anyway. And is it your contention that you need three inside players to win in the playoffs? How the hell did the Lakers win all of those championships? Brand and Kaman is probably the best inside team in the NBA already, and they eat up almost all of the minutes. What the Clippers needed was a shooter to keep teams from swarming on the two bigs. With Rad & Mobley, they have to respect the perimeter too.
This is a great one-year rental. You'll see. |
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KingKobeDubbz Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I would of liked if the Lakers could of gotten WIlcox. It would of been sick.
1 Smush
2 Kobe
3 Lamar
4 Wilcox
5 Mihm
So pretty much I am saying Kwame is off the bench which I think would be much better. Kwame would be more affective that way anyways. |
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Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 14226 Location: city of angels
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Wilcox wasn't in the long-term planning of the Clippers. Brand is a stud at PF. Kaman is now growing into his starting role at center. The Clippers needed someone to fill a gap for Maggette who is injured. The trade made sense. Most trades make sense if you look at the salary impications in addition to the player implications. The Clippers will spend their big contract on Kaman, not Wilcox. As for the Lakers getting him, it seems less likely. Seattle will be able to offer him more money. Those who say the Lakers should have traded for him, neglect the fact that the Clippers hate trading with the Lakers. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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