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| hype wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | kinda disappointed Vogel isnt giving Waiters more run. He's the perfect player to put in the game when Lebron is on the bench with his ability to attack the hoop |
He is a break glass in case of emergency player. |
I have no idea what put JR in front of him. Dion is such a better player then him at this point and it's not even close, especially for this series. |
He gets lost a LOT on defense and Portland are an explosive team. Vogel might be a bit nervous putting him in atm until he gets his defensive rotations a bit more down.
I think a team like Houston would be safer playing him against? |
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hype
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | hype wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | kinda disappointed Vogel isnt giving Waiters more run. He's the perfect player to put in the game when Lebron is on the bench with his ability to attack the hoop |
He is a break glass in case of emergency player. |
I have no idea what put JR in front of him. Dion is such a better player then him at this point and it's not even close, especially for this series. |
He gets lost a LOT on defense and Portland are an explosive team. Vogel might be a bit nervous putting him in atm until he gets his defensive rotations a bit more down.
I think a team like Houston would be safer playing him against? |
I agree with that but JR has been getting roasted on defense while missing everything he throws up outside of garbage time when he just kept chucking.
I get giving more minutes to Caruso, Morris, Kuz etc. over playing him but not JR. I think he could at least carve the defense up at times and be on par with JR's defense we've seen in this series with the potential to be much better. Not the biggest deal since it's not going to decide if we win a championship or not i'm just more so curious to see him a bit more against that Portland defense. |
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| drae wrote: | | hype wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | kinda disappointed Vogel isnt giving Waiters more run. He's the perfect player to put in the game when Lebron is on the bench with his ability to attack the hoop |
He is a break glass in case of emergency player. |
I have no idea what put JR in front of him. Dion is such a better player then him at this point and it's not even close, especially for this series. |
He gets lost a LOT on defense and Portland are an explosive team. Vogel might be a bit nervous putting him in atm until he gets his defensive rotations a bit more down.
I think a team like Houston would be safer playing him against? |
JR is getting killed on the defensive end as well while bricking 3s and layups.
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Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that?
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that? |
To be fair, Waiters hasn’t been trustworthy on defense and the Lakers biggest strength is what they do on defense. One broken link kills the game plan particularly against a team like the Blazers. |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that? |
To be fair, Waiters hasn’t been trustworthy on defense and the Lakers biggest strength is what they do on defense. One broken link kills the game plan particularly against a team like the Blazers. |
I believe he deserves minutes, especially over JR. Also have concerns about his D. Would only play him 8-12MPG when one of CJ/Dame is out and hide on him Hezonja/Trent/Simons
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that? |
To be fair, Waiters hasn’t been trustworthy on defense and the Lakers biggest strength is what they do on defense. One broken link kills the game plan particularly against a team like the Blazers. |
I believe he deserves minutes, especially over JR. Also have concerns about his D. Would only play him 8-12MPG when one of CJ/Dame is out and hide on him Hezonja/Trent/Simons |
I agree....Waiters over JR. Honestly, I think I would go with every player on the roster over JR....never understood why he was added to this roster. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that? |
To be fair, Waiters hasn’t been trustworthy on defense and the Lakers biggest strength is what they do on defense. One broken link kills the game plan particularly against a team like the Blazers. |
I believe he deserves minutes, especially over JR. Also have concerns about his D. Would only play him 8-12MPG when one of CJ/Dame is out and hide on him Hezonja/Trent/Simons |
I agree....Waiters over JR. Honestly, I think I would go with every player on the roster over JR....never understood why he was added to this roster. |
Yeah, you can't defend the decision with defense since JR has been abysmal on both ends and is the one we're talking about replacing. The tiny bit of life I thought JR showed in the bubble has clearly been lost. Like I said, if Vogel gave the other guys I mentioned more minutes I wouldn't even care about Waiters much.
Might as well just give a lucky fan the chance to be a full hologram on the floor as our fifth man for JR's minutes, would get roughly the same production. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Vogel plays Dion 24 mpg in 7 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Vogel plays JR 10 mpg in 5 of the Lakers 8 bubble games.
Playoffs come and JR is ahead of Dion in the roatatoms, wtf is that? |
To be fair, Waiters hasn’t been trustworthy on defense and the Lakers biggest strength is what they do on defense. One broken link kills the game plan particularly against a team like the Blazers. |
I believe he deserves minutes, especially over JR. Also have concerns about his D. Would only play him 8-12MPG when one of CJ/Dame is out and hide on him Hezonja/Trent/Simons |
I agree....Waiters over JR. Honestly, I think I would go with every player on the roster over JR....never understood why he was added to this roster. |
King a James needs a jester in his court.... |
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I doubt JR would have played a single minute in this series if the guys who are relied upon to make shots had been doing so at a decent clip, especially Danny Green.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Judah wrote: | | I doubt JR would have played a single minute in this series if the guys who are relied upon to make shots had been doing so at a decent clip, especially Danny Green. |
KCP and DG shot 5/8.
But I think Vogel wants to give JR some burn to get his confidence up in the long run. JR right now doesn’t look confident out there. He gets so down witch each brick. Looks like he’s lost in what he should do within the offense if he isn’t spotting up.
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| DW is looking better than JR by a wide margin. |
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| Dion had one of the worst defensive possessions the entire game by forgetting his player, spinning around and then running across the floor to defend the three. The guy made it. Stuff like that is why he doesn’t and shouldn’t get time. JR has looked relatively good on defense. Not great but average at worst. Plus Bron prefers him. LeBron has made it clear that Dion’s defensive mistakes annoy him. Probably reminds him of Kyrie. |
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| Hopefully, we have a long playoff run. I will guarantee that DW will help us win AT LEAST one game before its over. I can not believe I am saying this because I do not even like the guy. |
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I’m impressed with Dion accepting his role. He’s really an underrated playmaker. If Caruso wasn’t a juggernaut on defense, Dion would get some more playing time.
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First play he was in, he completely shook his man and nailed a jumper in his face which is more then i've seen from JR in all his minutes so far (outside of garbage time of course). He def. got lost defensively on that play but it's not like JR hasn't done that many times as well. I believe it was game 3? He had a stretch where the person he was guarding blew by him for layups in like 2-3 straight possessions while also badly bricking a shot or two on the other side.
Not saying Dion is going to be amazing or anything but i've still seen zero evidence that JR should be getting minutes over him outside of that he won with Lebron before he was washed. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ducasse wrote: | | DW is looking better than JR by a wide margin. |
No need for either of them.
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Dion will win a ring no matter who wins the Finals!
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Kudos to this man
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| If we can get him for the minimum, bring him back. He could be our Kendrick Nunn. Gotta have someone who isn't afraid to shoot the ball. |
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| Lakers Champion Dion Waiters. His kid will be in the NBA one day. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Go to www.lakers.com and Dion Waiters is on the roster with all the new additions. It could mean he will be on the team.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Go to www.lakers.com and Dion Waiters is on the roster with all the new additions. It could mean he will be on the team. |
Cacok is there, AD is there, Dudley & Dion; it's probably an oversight.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Go to www.lakers.com and Dion Waiters is on the roster with all the new additions. It could mean he will be on the team. |
Cacok is there, AD is there, Dudley & Dion; it's probably an oversight. |
It means that the Lakers have not yet officially renounced their rights to him. He might be brought back but he would still need to agree to a contract. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| I’m not sure why we wouldn’t want waiters back Instant offense off the bench |
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