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Baron Von Humongous
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 Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 pm Post subject: Poll: is it more important to ban drone strikes in Syria or assault weapons in America? |
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Please vote, Jeb!
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Someone once said: If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..
(well them and the police...)
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| unleasHell wrote: | Someone once said: If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..
(well them and the police...) |
Same rules that app to bazookas
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I am not against drone strikes that go the extra mile to mitigate collateral damages, per se. The problem is we don't know if this is consistent with different administrations.
As for "assault" weapons, I don't have a problem with people owning semi-automatic weapons provided they are registered and the associated magazines have a limited capacity. |
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| Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
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I don't see the need to own an assault rifle.
Zone strikes are, for me, subjective. If there are American lives being saved I'm all for them.
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In America, weapons designed for warfare shouldn't be accessible outside of gun ranges.
Don't know enough about warfare in Syria to speak on it.
But in a vacuum, I prefer drones to manned aircrafts. Since there isn't an American piloting the craft and risking their life directly.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:35 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote:
| Quote: | | In America, weapons designed for warfare shouldn't be accessible outside of gun ranges. |
I agree. It was a thought I had when I posted but couldn't quite word it.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive.
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Baron Von Humongous
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive. |
It's a subthread on a subforum on a Lakers fan page - nothing productive happens here.
But to your point, I'm legitimately curious about and morally struggle with the question (which is a false dichotomy, I know, but in a vacuum I find compelling).
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive. |
It's a subthread on a subforum on a Lakers fan page - nothing productive happens here.
But to your point, I'm legitimately curious about and morally struggle with the question (which is a false dichotomy, I know, but in a vacuum I find compelling). |
Valid point.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
Por que no los dos!
https://youtu.be/OawrlVoQqSs
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning.
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Aeneas Hunter
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| kikanga wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
Por que no los dos!
https://youtu.be/OawrlVoQqSs
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning. |
It's a question of where you spend your energy. It's also a question of how much #1 alienates people who could be allies for #2. Still, #1 is awfully seductive. That's American politics in the 21st century in a nutshell. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible? |
Por que no los dos!
https://youtu.be/OawrlVoQqSs
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning. |
It's a question of where you spend your energy. It's also a question of how much #1 alienates people who could be allies for #2. Still, #1 is awfully seductive. That's American politics in the 21st century in a nutshell. |
I could use the same reasoning you’re using right now to defend the indefensible throughout history.
Not only do I reject the notion of simplistically putting grievances into only 2 categories. I reject the merit of even making the categories to begin with.
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Aeneas Hunter
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| kikanga wrote: | I could use the same reasoning you’re using right now to defend the indefensible throughout history.
Not only do I reject the notion of simplistically putting grievances into only 2 categories. I reject the merit of even making the categories to begin with. |
Yes, I'm sure you do. |
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