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mad55557777
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The all star game was a huge success with the new format.
Now they should go back to EAST vs WEST or USA vs international |
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ASG was like Team USA vs themselves but with even more talent since there are always a few hold outs or snubs. Great, great game.
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| Runway8 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Runway8 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | The Elam Ending (bleep) rules. |
That’s what I was saying. Everyone and their moms shat on it though. |
It’s not easy to explain to people but now that they’ve seen it in action how could anyone want to keep the FT parade that ends most games? |
This was an all star game. They still let a lot of calls go. Kinda scary actually. This place would be in a bad mood if AD tweaked his back or something. Whether it's elam or traditional clock, you could still get blow-outs and free throw parade games. |
The nature of the format essentially eliminates the incentive to intentionally foul at the end of games (which is exactly why it didn’t happen in this game). Yeah it would have been unfortunate for someone to get hurt at an All Star Game but are we really arguing against defense and intensity at the end of NBA games? |
I dunno, I saw some free throws, the game ended with free throws. And the refs let some calls go, so there could have been more free throws if it wasn't an all-star game. Interesting though and if the NBA were to ever implement it in real games, what would be an ideal number to set that target score? Today was a tribute to Kobe, so they did 24, but I wonder what would be ideal. I haven't followed or watch enough Elam games to get a feel that it does promote less free throws. |
There were free throws but they came as a result of legitimate fouls, not intentional ones. Nobody was getting wrapped up on the inbounds because it just puts the other team closer to the target score.
I haven’t watched enough of these games either. They picked 24 for Kobe but traditionally once there’s 4 minutes left they turn off the clock and add 7 to the team with the lead. I read about 20% of them end with a FT clinching the game. I do like that it removes the incentive for intentional fouls and increases defensive intensity. The end of that game last night was super fun and when’s is the last time anyone said that about an All Star Game?
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| mad55557777 wrote: | The all star game was a huge success with the new format.
Now they should go back to EAST vs WEST or USA vs international |
Agree on East vs West. |
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People gave (bleep) to the 08 and 12 Olympic teams for being too friendly. Blah blah, “the 90’s players would never be friends like this”. There were no friends in the 4th quarter last night. Seeing CP3, James, and Kawhi going out there and competing in the spirit of Kobe made this ASG special. Luca and Young are on the sidelines watching great players compete. Just like the Lebron/Wade generation learned from Kobe. I (bleep) loved it.
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did not watch the game but might have to watch this 4th quarter after how good it apparently was
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It was absolutely great. FWIW I haven't watched an all-star game in many years, I watched this only because of the Kobe award - but then was totally mesmerized by the 4th quarter.
| PHILosophize wrote: | | did not watch the game but might have to watch this 4th quarter after how good it apparently was |
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| I haven't watched it yet either but all-star games always get competitive in the 4th quarter. I don't think the new format has anything to do with it. |
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| Honestly, the last time I saw a game that intense was Game 7 of the 2016 Finals. It was pretty reminiscent of that, too, with how hard it became to score in the last few minutes for both teams and how crucial every possession seemed. |
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| Cyberfreak444 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Kawhi’s post game:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5cuJzGOfMw
@1:35 talks how Vogel drew plays for him and how LeBron’s vision was able to find him for open shots.
@2:50 talks about Kobe.
@4:20 talks what it was like playing with LeBron and AD on the same team. |
Fawk Kawhi, no more ring for that foo |
I just had the thought could he be the next Kobe and then I'm like (bleep) that guy he can't win another title on the wrong team. |
Nobody who load manages and takes so many games off should be compared to Kobe Bryant in my opinion. |
Yup
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The games was the best all star game in years!
One thing that would have been interesting it what Reggie and Grant talked about but didn’t transpire: When Team LeBron was up and had 154 (target 157) team Giannis could have intentionally fouled so they could only get 156 and give them another possession. Unless there was some sort of win by 2 rule I’m missing out on |
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Kobe talking about how he and CP3 talked about having a more competitive All-Star game: https://twitter.com/audeldeltoro/status/1229477052438302720?s=21
Oh snap! CP3 then went to the NBA and got them to change it!
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| 22 wrote: | The games was the best all star game in years!
One thing that would have been interesting it what Reggie and Grant talked about but didn’t transpire: When Team LeBron was up and had 154 (target 157) team Giannis could have intentionally fouled so they could only get 156 and give them another possession. Unless there was some sort of win by 2 rule I’m missing out on |
Ya they should of fouled at that moment.
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was it a little awkward for CP3 and Harden to play together in the 4th?
lol |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | I haven't watched it yet either but all-star games always get competitive in the 4th quarter. I don't think the new format has anything to do with it. |
Nah man this was on another level. |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | was it a little awkward for CP3 and Harden to play together in the 4th?
lol |
I was more surprised Trae Young didn't see any playing time in the 4th.
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| GTL wrote: | | 22 wrote: | The games was the best all star game in years!
One thing that would have been interesting it what Reggie and Grant talked about but didn’t transpire: When Team LeBron was up and had 154 (target 157) team Giannis could have intentionally fouled so they could only get 156 and give them another possession. Unless there was some sort of win by 2 rule I’m missing out on |
Ya they should of fouled at that moment. |
Team lebron missed a ton of opportunities at 154.
if the score was 154-154, the foul definitely should've been in the play, but i think the score was 154-153, so Team Giannis needed 2 scores.
we will see more drama if the game is close next year. especially when they have a foul target like Lebron on the court. |
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| GTL wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | was it a little awkward for CP3 and Harden to play together in the 4th?
lol |
I was more surprised Trae Young didn't see any playing time in the 4th. |
I can see why CP3 and Lowry played instead of Trae and Luka. They are getting up there, might be the last All-Star game for both of them. Trae and Luka got more than a decade of All-Star selections in front of them. |
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mad55557777
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| GTL wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | was it a little awkward for CP3 and Harden to play together in the 4th?
lol |
I was more surprised Trae Young didn't see any playing time in the 4th. |
for the same reason as Luka, probably too young. George Karl benched Kobe in 1999. |
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So, is Team Lebron the greatest basketball team ever assembled?
(someone claimed so on the TNT broadcast)
Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Doncic, Harden, Simmons, Jokic, Tatum, Paul, Westbrook, Sabonis, Booker
Compare with the Dream Team ...
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Malone, Drexler, Ewing, Robinson, Pippen, Stockton, Mullin, Laettner |
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| Every quarter was competitive because $100K for charities was at stake. |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | Cyberfreak444 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Kawhi’s post game:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5cuJzGOfMw
@1:35 talks how Vogel drew plays for him and how LeBron’s vision was able to find him for open shots.
@2:50 talks about Kobe.
@4:20 talks what it was like playing with LeBron and AD on the same team. |
Fawk Kawhi, no more ring for that foo |
I just had the thought could he be the next Kobe and then I'm like (bleep) that guy he can't win another title on the wrong team. |
Nobody who load manages and takes so many games off should be compared to Kobe Bryant in my opinion. |
Yup |
Yeah, that alone stops the comparison but on top of that he doesn't really have much showmanship either if you're not rooting for the team he is on. Players like Kobe and MJ might have been disliked by other teams fans but they were always providing entertainment and amazing moments consistently. Kawhi is more like a Duncan, no doubt great but boring asf to watch the majority of the time. Not really even a knock as they do/did everything very well and fundamentally sound it's just not very entertaining for casual fans.
No doubt Kobe could have lasted longer in the NBA probably if he "load managed" but there was zero chance of that ever happening and I personally loved that about him. |
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| ThePageDude wrote: | So, is Team Lebron the greatest basketball team ever assembled?
(someone claimed so on the TNT broadcast)
Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Doncic, Harden, Simmons, Jokic, Tatum, Paul, Westbrook, Sabonis, Booker
Compare with the Dream Team ...
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Malone, Drexler, Ewing, Robinson, Pippen, Stockton, Mullin, Laettner |
That person is dumb. 35 yr old Lebron, some first time all-stars equals greatest team ever? That TNT person was smoking something.
The only team that could give 92 a run for their money is 2008 when Kobe, Bron, Wade were at the top of their games. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ThePageDude wrote: | So, is Team Lebron the greatest basketball team ever assembled?
(someone claimed so on the TNT broadcast)
Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Doncic, Harden, Simmons, Jokic, Tatum, Paul, Westbrook, Sabonis, Booker
Compare with the Dream Team ...
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Malone, Drexler, Ewing, Robinson, Pippen, Stockton, Mullin, Laettner |
Oh my someone said that?!?!  |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | ThePageDude wrote: | So, is Team Lebron the greatest basketball team ever assembled?
(someone claimed so on the TNT broadcast)
Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Doncic, Harden, Simmons, Jokic, Tatum, Paul, Westbrook, Sabonis, Booker
Compare with the Dream Team ...
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Malone, Drexler, Ewing, Robinson, Pippen, Stockton, Mullin, Laettner |
That person is dumb. 35 yr old Lebron, some first time all-stars equals greatest team ever? That TNT person was smoking something.
The only team that could give 92 a run for their money is 2008 when Kobe, Bron, Wade were at the top of their games. |
How much defense or useful do you think old magic and injured back bird is gonna do with that LeBron team? The only real advantage they have is down low, but their wings outside of MJ will get abused. Dream team would ultimately lose though. To many mismatches, That Bron team is way too athletic and fast. Now the redeem team, that's some thing to talk about. |
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