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Seems like whenever someone publicly downplays COVID-19, or says it's "fake" or mocks it, they end up getting it.
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| slavavov wrote: |
Seems like whenever someone publicly downplays COVID-19, or says it's "fake" or mocks it, they end up getting it. |
Why does it not happen to Trump? Teflon Don slides again.
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You much more decent than myself. I wish far, far worse for them. |
I want them to eat sh!+ and leave this planet...but not to leave before they eat that sh!+. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | They asked Trump about the outbreaks today while he was in Florida -- he basically said it's a just a few fires which will be put out quickly and nothing to worry about. They will put out the fires and it will go away. No biggie, nothing to see here.
Lock him up. |
| Quote: | | Over 40 Florida hospitals max out ICU capacity as Covid-19 cases surge across US |
https://tinyurl.com/y7pb2t2k
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California Covid Deaths for July 10, 2020
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5,175,737 Tests Performed
....5,175,737 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
.......304,297 POSITIVE (+7,798)
....4,871,440 NEGATIVE
Day............#.Day............#...Day..........#
2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75 7/03/2020 100
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61 7/04/2020 50
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63 7/05/2020 18
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74 7/06/2020 6
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67 7/07/2020 111
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27 7/08/2020 114
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44 7/09/2020 149 (63 LA, 21 SBDNO)
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79 7/10/2020 140 (46 LA, 26 OC)
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44
3/28/2020 23........................5/31/2020 57
3/30/2020 34
3/31/2020 15
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From last night:
| Quote: | Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
Breaking on @MSNBC: The U.S. has crossed more than 70,000 new coronavirus cases in a single day. That is a record. A week ago, the record was about 50,000 cases in a single day. |
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Hector the Pup
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| Those are just embers. Very easy to control. |
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What's frightening, this idiot may win a second term!
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | Those are just embers. Very easy to control. |
Because we rake our leaves.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Hector the Pup wrote: | | Those are just embers. Very easy to control. |
Because we rake our leaves. |
Get your raking done this weekend because I don't see us going another week without a return to lockdown. |
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If I hear one more idiot here in Florida say things like “how is it we opened theme parks, restaurants, stores and protested safely but we you people are against opening schools?”
I’d say it’s pretty frigging obvious we DIDN’T open any of those places safely.
They also love to point to other countries opening schools safely. It’s absurd to compare other countries to the US, especially to Florida in particular. Florida has had more positive cases in the past week than many of those countries have had during the entire pandemic.....combined! Finland is a popular one they mention. Finland has had fewer cases total than Florida had today alone!
There are multiple threads with stuff like this on my Nextdoor. I’ve been biting my tongue to not reply to this stuff. |
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It's very frustrating watching the country go down the tubes and there's nothing being done by Repuklicans to stop it.
They way I see it, our salvation lies in voting booths and vote by mail. I'm hoping vote by mail will be enacted for the coming election. Those who've been thwarted at the polls will be able to sit in their lazy boys and vote from the comfort of home.
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Americans may not think of themselves as an “empire,” but much of the world does. The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power.
The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026.
The average age of an empire? A mere 250 years
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This country (empire), founded on theft of land, slavery, and the killing of native peoples, is on its way to feeling the karmic effects of its odious acts.
The Nazis (Germany) paid a price for their atrocities, and I think this country will, too...for their own atrocities...framed as patriotism, free enterprise, and Uhmurrican Greatness. |
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One of the disturbing things about the current state of the pandemic that I have seen discussed here mush is this asinine idea of returning to professional sports.
With maybe the sole exception of golf, where the nature of the sport almost inherently involves social distancing (and to a lesser degree, tennis), the idea of having players return to the fields and courts is asinine and like almost all of the foolish decisions being made the days is purely motivated by the drive to make money. I am aware that professional sports are a business that needs revenue to survive. But to ask athletes (even those that say they want to play) to place their lives in danger (and either stay away from their families or place their families in danger as well) simply to make money is gravely irresponsible.
There isn't a sport that has returned to some degree of resumption or practice where there haven't been infections. And it is preposterous to think there won't be more. And in sports where there is direct body to body contact like football and basketball? There are no precautions in the world that are going to completely prevent some participants from contracting the virus.
I'm a big fan of sports and consuming them is a large part of my life, and we could certainly all use the distraction. But I see no justification for taking risks with people's lives simply for the people's entertainment.
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| FernieBee wrote: | Americans may not think of themselves as an “empire,” but much of the world does. The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power.
The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026.
The average age of an empire? A mere 250 years
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This country (empire), founded on theft of land, slavery, and the killing of native peoples, is on its way to feeling the karmic effects of its odious acts.
The Nazis (Germany) paid a price for their atrocities, and I think this country will, too...for their own atrocities...framed as patriotism, free enterprise, and Uhmurrican Greatness. |
An interesting question would be at what point the US gained the status of an empire. I think the Industrial Revolution and WW2 were the things that created our global empire.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | FernieBee wrote: | Americans may not think of themselves as an “empire,” but much of the world does. The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power.
The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026.
The average age of an empire? A mere 250 years
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This country (empire), founded on theft of land, slavery, and the killing of native peoples, is on its way to feeling the karmic effects of its odious acts.
The Nazis (Germany) paid a price for their atrocities, and I think this country will, too...for their own atrocities...framed as patriotism, free enterprise, and Uhmurrican Greatness. |
An interesting question would be at what point the US gained the status of an empire. I think the Industrial Revolution and WW2 were the things that created our global empire. |
American independence 1776 Industrial Revolution 1750 to 1914. WW II 1939 to 1945. So how many years have we been a Empire?
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| Who knows, for sure, when the USA became an empire? But I think that we're in agreement that it is an empire. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | FernieBee wrote: | Americans may not think of themselves as an “empire,” but much of the world does. The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power.
The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026.
The average age of an empire? A mere 250 years
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This country (empire), founded on theft of land, slavery, and the killing of native peoples, is on its way to feeling the karmic effects of its odious acts.
The Nazis (Germany) paid a price for their atrocities, and I think this country will, too...for their own atrocities...framed as patriotism, free enterprise, and Uhmurrican Greatness. |
An interesting question would be at what point the US gained the status of an empire. I think the Industrial Revolution and WW2 were the things that created our global empire. |
Pretty much. It has been said that the US became the world leader in GDP around 1890 - 1900. If anyone had any doubt, it was surely erased after WWII. |
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| Like it or not, this is the new normal. Just have to let it run its course. It's not something that can be stopped. Gotta start living your life but wear a mask of course if you're around the vulnerable people. |
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| GoldenChild wrote: | | Like it or not, this is the new normal. Just have to let it run its course. It's not something that can be stopped. Gotta start living your life but wear a mask of course if you're around the vulnerable people. |
No we don't have to "let it run it's course." We need to reduce the risk and contain the spread with science and facts, starting with everyone wearing masks at all times in public, continue to keep social distance of 6-feet, wash hands frequently, don't spend time extended time in indoor crowded spaces. We need governors in red states to stop politicizing CDC procedures and get up to speed with all measures to contain the virus instead of making it worse by willfully ignoring science and spreading propaganda instead informing the public with useful and relevant information on what they need to do. The federal government still needs to ramp up testing, contract tracing, quarantines where needed, and continue to ramp of supply production of PPE and testing equipment. The federal government needs to let the CDC take the lead in informing the public and quit lying to the American people. Red state governors need to stop hiding data so the scientists and doctors can make informed decisions. |
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| GoldenChild wrote: | | Like it or not, this is the new normal. Just have to let it run its course. It's not something that can be stopped. Gotta start living your life but wear a mask of course if you're around the vulnerable people. |
That's the kind of thinking that will keep the virus with us longer. It's not going to "run it's course." It has to be attacked with the same vigor it's attacking us. It, like measles, polio, flu, to name a few, is here to stay. A vaccine is on the way to check it.
The CDC gave us guidelines to combat the disease. Other countries have done the things necessary, test, contact trace, masks, social distance and their lines have flatten and some have dipped.
It's not going to be a new normal for some time to come. Just the verbiage NEW NORMAL is enough to scare the hell outa me.
Lastly, we have to go to the polls and rid ourselves of the scourge that's allowing the pandemic to spread. The Oval Office and both houses.
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| FernieBee wrote: | | Who knows, for sure, when the USA became an empire? But I think that we're in agreement that it is an empire. |
It was pretty much official when we won WWII.
If you think about it, we've never really lived up to our founding ideals. I'd say our golden years were the 50s and 60s when we had a great middle class, but I'm sure non-white people will vehemently disagree with me, which is why I say we've never lived up to our founding ideals.
I'd say the late 70s is when our corruption and decline started, when collective narcissism became rampant, combined with a new breed of politicians that brainwashed an entire generation to hate anything that had to do with the govt.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | One of the disturbing things about the current state of the pandemic that I have seen discussed here mush is this asinine idea of returning to professional sports.
With maybe the sole exception of golf, where the nature of the sport almost inherently involves social distancing (and to a lesser degree, tennis), the idea of having players return to the fields and courts is asinine and like almost all of the foolish decisions being made the days is purely motivated by the drive to make money. I am aware that professional sports are a business that needs revenue to survive. But to ask athletes (even those that say they want to play) to place their lives in danger (and either stay away from their families or place their families in danger as well) simply to make money is gravely irresponsible.
There isn't a sport that has returned to some degree of resumption or practice where there haven't been infections. And it is preposterous to think there won't be more. And in sports where there is direct body to body contact like football and basketball? There are no precautions in the world that are going to completely prevent some participants from contracting the virus.
I'm a big fan of sports and consuming them is a large part of my life, and we could certainly all use the distraction. But I see no justification for taking risks with people's lives simply for the people's entertainment. |
First off, great post. I agree with everything you said.
Secondly, this pandemic really shows how when someone passes the buck when it comes to responsibility. Someone else has to pick it up. Trump and McConnell refused to address the pandemic on a national level with forethought and scientifically backed strategy. So now everybody (whether its pro athletes or every day workers) in this country has to be responsible for making a screwed up choice between health and income. A choice nobody (especially people living in "the greatest country in the world") should be forced to make. Elections have consequences.
Final thought is. Set up sports leagues in Hawaii moving forward. Make the bubble the NBA is doing now. And place it inside a state which already is a bubble. A bubble within a bubble. That's the smartest way to re-implement sports.
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California Covid Deaths for July 11, 2020
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5,275,695 Tests Performed
....5,275,695 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
.......312,344 POSITIVE (+8,047)
....4,963,351 NEGATIVE
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2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75 7/03/2020 100
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61 7/04/2020 50
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63 7/05/2020 18
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74 7/06/2020 6
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67 7/07/2020 111
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27 7/08/2020 114
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44 7/09/2020 149 (63 LA, 21 SBDNO)
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79 7/10/2020 140 (46 LA, 26 OC)
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105 7/11/2020 94 (49 LA)
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44
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3/30/2020 34
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https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-156.aspx
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| GoldenChild wrote: | | Like it or not, this is the new normal. Just have to let it run its course. It's not something that can be stopped. Gotta start living your life but wear a mask of course if you're around the vulnerable people. |
Pretty much the exact opposite of everything you said, but what else is new? |
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