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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Here comes CYA. I don't blame the league. People will be people. They're not going to abide with strict rules of masks and social distancing.
I want sports but not at the risk of spreading a pandemic virus.
I could watch a game with no fans. It won't be as enjoyable but it's better than nothing.
I can see the league negotiating new contracts with television. It won't match fan attendance but it something.
Hell I want the NBA to end the season. The Lakers window of opportunity is closing. Play in the bubble.
NFL might ask fans to sign a coronavirus liability waiver to attend games this season, per report
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It's all about the Benjamin's.
Quote: | A big reason the NFL is doing everything in its power to try and make sure that fans will be able to attend games is that there's a lot of money involved. The league has estimated that if fans aren't allowed to attend games in 2020 that NFL's 32 teams would collectively lose out on more than $3 billion. |
Quote: | With an uptick in coronavirus cases around the country, a waiver wouldn't be completely unheard of. During a rally in Tulsa on June 20, the Trump campaign required all attendees to sign a waiver. The idea of having fans signs a waiver is one of several changes that the league will soon be considering with the proposals expected to be sent to each team at some point next week. According to the Athletic, other proposals include asking fans to wear masks and having every stadium go cashless (The Falcons are the only team that currently runs a cashless operation). |
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All these major pro sports leagues are in trouble if they don't have a season or have a season with vastly reduced crowds. There is no way these leagues can survive long just on TV alone. |
There are other revenue streams available if they get creative. I'm sure fans would love to see a team specific reality series filmed inside the bubble. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Here comes CYA. I don't blame the league. People will be people. They're not going to abide with strict rules of masks and social distancing.
I want sports but not at the risk of spreading a pandemic virus.
I could watch a game with no fans. It won't be as enjoyable but it's better than nothing.
I can see the league negotiating new contracts with television. It won't match fan attendance but it something.
Hell I want the NBA to end the season. The Lakers window of opportunity is closing. Play in the bubble.
NFL might ask fans to sign a coronavirus liability waiver to attend games this season, per report
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It's all about the Benjamin's.
Quote: | A big reason the NFL is doing everything in its power to try and make sure that fans will be able to attend games is that there's a lot of money involved. The league has estimated that if fans aren't allowed to attend games in 2020 that NFL's 32 teams would collectively lose out on more than $3 billion. |
Quote: | With an uptick in coronavirus cases around the country, a waiver wouldn't be completely unheard of. During a rally in Tulsa on June 20, the Trump campaign required all attendees to sign a waiver. The idea of having fans signs a waiver is one of several changes that the league will soon be considering with the proposals expected to be sent to each team at some point next week. According to the Athletic, other proposals include asking fans to wear masks and having every stadium go cashless (The Falcons are the only team that currently runs a cashless operation). |
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All these major pro sports leagues are in trouble if they don't have a season or have a season with vastly reduced crowds. There is no way these leagues can survive long just on TV alone. |
That's a given which is why I posted Quote: | I can see the league negotiating new contracts with television. It won't match fan attendance but it something. | It's going to be awhile before the norm. Every little bit helps.
I quit smoking 40 years ago. Not having sports makes me want a cigarette. Gimme something PLEASE!!!! _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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US Sets New Single-Day Record for Coronavirus Infections
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Quote: | The United States marked another grim milestone Tuesday as it posted a record 47,000 new COVID-19 cases, the biggest one day increase in new infections since the start of the pandemic. |
Trump says we have the virus under control. Statistics say different. He's exhibiting piss poor leadership not wearing a mask in public, saying the virus is a hoax. He's fooling some, not me. LINK Never in my lifetime did I think I'd see the day where Americans were banned to travel to another country. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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CandyCanes wrote: | But now the rate of new cases is higher than ever before, so it was all pointless.
I don’t know why Fauci is lionized as a national hero when he deliberately lied about the effectiveness of mask use so that they could be preserved for hospitals. |
No excuses for Fauci on that point. I still listen to him now because he is in agreement with the vast majority of medical professionals.
The lockdown in it of itself wasn't pointless.
It became pointless when we wasted that month and didn't implement a nation-wide response. Like so many other countries that don't have our infections/deaths have done. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | But now the rate of new cases is higher than ever before, so it was all pointless.
I don’t know why Fauci is lionized as a national hero when he deliberately lied about the effectiveness of mask use so that they could be preserved for hospitals. |
No excuses for Fauci on that point. I still listen to him now because he is in agreement with the vast majority of medical professionals.
The lockdown in it of itself wasn't pointless.
It became pointless when we wasted that month and didn't implement a nation-wide response. Like so many other countries that don't have our infections/deaths have done. |
As was mentioned at the start of the pandemic, the idea of a lockdown only works if it consistently approached across the country and maintained until the goal of the lockdown was achieved. And as was predicted by many, people grew impatient, so even where there were lockdowns in effect, those places opened up before the desired goal was achieved. Thus, any gains made were essentially erased and we are now back to square one right as the second wave looms. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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CandyCanes wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | What was the point of the original “lockdown” now? I read an article that says we aren’t even in the second wave— the first one never ended. |
The lockdown was supposed to arrest the massive spread (which it did) that happened because we didn't take appropriate early measures, so that hospitals didn't get overrun and to give a chance for more moderate measures to be effective afterward. But the next measures should have been heavy on mask use, because that's the key to any successful model. |
But now the rate of new cases is higher than ever before, so it was all pointless.
I don’t know why Fauci is lionized as a national hero when he deliberately lied about the effectiveness of mask use so that they could be preserved for hospitals. |
That's like saying taking cover during a firefight is useless because a bunch of idiots stood up before the shooting was over. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | kikanga wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | But now the rate of new cases is higher than ever before, so it was all pointless.
I don’t know why Fauci is lionized as a national hero when he deliberately lied about the effectiveness of mask use so that they could be preserved for hospitals. |
No excuses for Fauci on that point. I still listen to him now because he is in agreement with the vast majority of medical professionals.
The lockdown in it of itself wasn't pointless.
It became pointless when we wasted that month and didn't implement a nation-wide response. Like so many other countries that don't have our infections/deaths have done. |
As was mentioned at the start of the pandemic, the idea of a lockdown only works if it consistently approached across the country and maintained until the goal of the lockdown was achieved. And as was predicted by many, people grew impatient, so even where there were lockdowns in effect, those places opened up before the desired goal was achieved. Thus, any gains made were essentially erased and we are now back to square one right as the second wave looms. |
Agree 100%.
RIGHT NOW Arizona isn't following the guidelines made by the CDC. Florida hasn't for months. Texas is trying to get itself together in hot zones, but they blew it for months. California doesn't even have the resources to enforce the rules since McConnell would rather let states go bankrupt then compromise a tiny bit in a bill.
There are citizens in other countries who don't like masks. Who didn't take this virus seriously. But top-down leadership didn't give them a choice.
During the lockdown, Congress should've passed laws to prevent these body bags. And a President should've enforced them.
Moving forward, we could actually turn a corner before a vaccine. Depending on how November goes.
Look around the globe, we are surrounded by success stories from countries who don't have a vaccine either. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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LakersGirl4Life wrote: |
More importantly how are they still allowing protests like this one?
https://twitter.com/ChristinaKTLA/status/1278499560239755264/photo/1
If you are going to keep people from earning a living then you shouldn't be allowing mass protests. You can't expect people to follow orders if there is a double standard thrown if their face. |
Imagine if the national guard who beat and maimed people across the country during the BLM protests were instead testing and doing contact tracing on the protestors instead.
But that would take organization, planning, and leadership on the national level. To bad our President is allergic to working hard. It's easier to just race bait. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | kikanga wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | But now the rate of new cases is higher than ever before, so it was all pointless.
I don’t know why Fauci is lionized as a national hero when he deliberately lied about the effectiveness of mask use so that they could be preserved for hospitals. |
No excuses for Fauci on that point. I still listen to him now because he is in agreement with the vast majority of medical professionals.
The lockdown in it of itself wasn't pointless.
It became pointless when we wasted that month and didn't implement a nation-wide response. Like so many other countries that don't have our infections/deaths have done. |
As was mentioned at the start of the pandemic, the idea of a lockdown only works if it consistently approached across the country and maintained until the goal of the lockdown was achieved. And as was predicted by many, people grew impatient, so even where there were lockdowns in effect, those places opened up before the desired goal was achieved. Thus, any gains made were essentially erased and we are now back to square one right as the second wave looms. |
Agree 100%.
RIGHT NOW Arizona isn't following the guidelines made by the CDC. Florida hasn't for months. Texas is trying to get itself together in hot zones, but they blew it for months. California doesn't even have the resources to enforce the rules since McConnell would rather let states go bankrupt then compromise a tiny bit in a bill.
There are citizens in other countries who don't like masks. Who didn't take this virus seriously. But top-down leadership didn't give them a choice.
During the lockdown, Congress should've passed laws to prevent these body bags. And a President should've enforced them.
Moving forward, we could actually turn a corner before a vaccine. Depending on how November goes.
Look around the globe, we are surrounded by success stories from countries who don't have a vaccine either. |
Yes we could turn the corner. To do that Trump would have to admit he was wrong. That's not going to happen. Governors must take the wheel. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: |
Yes we could turn the corner. To do that Trump would have to admit he was wrong. That's not going to happen. Governors must take the wheel. |
You can't fight a pandemic on a state level. Unless Congress ups the funding to states dramatically. Leaders in all 50 states take the virus seriously. And interstate travel is prohibited for at least 2 weeks.
The virus doesn't die when it crosses state lines, we really need a new President who has a plan. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: |
Yes we could turn the corner. To do that Trump would have to admit he was wrong. That's not going to happen. Governors must take the wheel. |
You can't fight a pandemic on a state level. Unless Congress ups the funding to states dramatically. Leaders in all 50 states take the virus seriously. And interstate travel is prohibited for at least 2 weeks.
The virus doesn't die when it crosses state lines, we really need a new President who has a plan. |
Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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California Covid Deaths for July 2, 2020
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4,338,718 Tests Performed
....4,338,718 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
.......240,195 POSITIVE
....4,098,523 NEGATIVE
Day............#.Day............#...Day..........#
2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44
3/28/2020 23........................5/31/2020 57
3/30/2020 34
3/31/2020 15
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https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-146.aspx
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https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19CasesDashboard_15931020425010/Cases?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. |
I don't know if governors have the authority to restrict interstate travel and things you suggest.
A state wide mask law would help stem the spread of COVID-19.
It's evidenced masks help prevent the spread of the virus. New evidence says they may also prevent you from getting it. It's a law that can be enforced.
If you're in public without a mask you should be cited and fined, Every time you're caught the fine should increase. We have to start somewhere.
There is no plan from the WH. Trump doesn't have a clue.Governors have to do things they can enforce. State wide mask can be enforced. It's a start. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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JerryMagicKobe Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. |
How would a truckload of goods transmit a virus? |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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JerryMagicKobe wrote: | kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. |
How would a truckload of goods transmit a virus? |
It’s 2-fold. The driver. Who knows if they’re coming from Arizona, Florida, Texas, or Cali. And the virus's resiliency on surfaces. For a lot of surfaces it lasts days not hours.
A good compass to look at is Hawaii. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. |
I don't know if governors have the authority to restrict interstate travel and things you suggest.
A state wide mask law would help stem the spread of COVID-19.
It's evidenced masks help prevent the spread of the virus. New evidence says they may also prevent you from getting it. It's a law that can be enforced.
If you're in public without a mask you should be cited and fined, Every time you're caught the fine should increase. We have to start somewhere.
There is no plan from the WH. Trump doesn't have a clue.Governors have to do things they can enforce. State wide mask can be enforced. It's a start. |
Agreed. It's a start. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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So Pence's recent trip to AZ got delayed by a day because so many secret service from the advance team tested positive or were showing symptoms they had to gather more agents.
Trump and Pence are exposing so many to covid to prepare for their little rallies and events in red states with huge outbreaks while they sit safe in their little bubbles. Pence spent a couple hours and never left the airport in AZ after close to a dozen agents and staff got infected setting it up. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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California Covid Deaths for July 3, 2020
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4,448,176 Tests Performed
....4,448,176 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
.......248,235 POSITIVE
....4,199,941 NEGATIVE
Day............#.Day............#...Day..........#
2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75 7/03/2020 100
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44
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3/30/2020 34
3/31/2020 15
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https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-147.aspx
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jodeke wrote: | kikanga wrote: | jodeke wrote: | Governors can pass a state wide law on face masks. That would be a start and call for them to grow a pair. |
If that’s the plan. We have to restrict interstate travel . Not just on people, but services and goods as well. |
I don't know if governors have the authority to restrict interstate travel and things you suggest.
A state wide mask law would help stem the spread of COVID-19.
It's evidenced masks help prevent the spread of the virus. New evidence says they may also prevent you from getting it. It's a law that can be enforced.
If you're in public without a mask you should be cited and fined, Every time you're caught the fine should increase. We have to start somewhere.
There is no plan from the WH. Trump doesn't have a clue.Governors have to do things they can enforce. State wide mask can be enforced. It's a start. |
It's "hilarious" that smoking in public (extremely low impact to those around you for short periods) makes you a scum of the earth now a days, but choosing to pass your COVID sneezes around without a mask makes you a constitutional rights warrior.
People are truly broken at their core. |
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New Trump strategy for dealing with spiking COVID cases -- just "live with it." Just deal with it people. Nothing to do but let people die, get used to it and quit complaining.
We need to live with it': White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus
Quote: | After several months of mixed messages on the coronavirus pandemic, the White House is settling on a new one: Learn to live with it.
Administration officials are planning to intensify what they hope is a sharper, and less conflicting, message of the pandemic next week, according to senior administration officials, after struggling to offer clear directives amid a crippling surge in cases across the country. On Thursday, the United States reported more than 55,000 new cases of coronavirus and infection rates were hitting new records in multiple states.
At the crux of the message, officials said, is a recognition by the White House that the virus is not going away any time soon — and will be around through the November election. |
Quit complaining when your loved ones die and just live with it is certainly a sharper and less conflicting message all right. Unfeeling, incompetent, cruel and evil. |
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Pfizer reports encouraging, very early vaccine test results
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Quote: | The first of four experimental COVID-19 vaccines being tested by Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech showed encouraging results in very early testing of 45 people, the companies said Wednesday.
Study volunteers given either a low or medium dose, in two shots about a month apart, had immune responses in the range expected to be protective, when compared to some COVID-19 survivors, according to the preliminary results. |
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California Covid Deaths for July 4, 2020
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4,553,031 Tests Performed
....4,553,031 Results Rec'd (0 PENDING)
.......254,745 POSITIVE
....4,298,286 NEGATIVE
Day............#.Day............#...Day..........#
2/26/2020 0 4/01/2020 21 5/01/2020 91 6/01/2020 38 7/01/2020 110
2/27/2020 0 4/02/2020 32 5/02/2020 98 6/02/2020 35 7/02/2020 73
2/28/2020 0 4/03/2020 34 5/03/2020 44 6/03/2020 75 7/03/2020 100
2/29/2020 0 4/04/2020 39 5/04/2020 39 6/04/2020 61 7/04/2020 50
3/01/2020 0 4/05/2020 43 5/05/2020 63 6/05/2020 63
3/02/2020 0 4/06/2020 24 5/06/2020 95 6/06/2020 74
3/03/2020 0 4/07/2020 31 5/07/2020 92 6/07/2020 67
3/04/2020 1 4/08/2020 68 5/08/2020 81 6/08/2020 27
3/05/2020 0 4/09/2020 50 5/09/2020 93 6/09/2020 44
3/06/2020 0 4/10/2020 49 5/10/2020 67 6/10/2020 79
3/07/2020 0 4/11/2020 68 5/11/2020 25 6/11/2020 105
3/08/2020 0 4/12/2020 42 5/12/2020 77 6/12/2020 62
3/09/2020 0 4/13/2020 36 5/13/2020 87 6/13/2020 46
3/10/2020 1 4/14/2020 71 5/14/2020 98 6/14/2020 74
3/12/2020 4 4/15/2020 63 5/15/2020 76 6/15/2020 26
3/13/2020 0 4/16/2020 69 5/16/2020 96 6/16/2020 32
3/14/2020 1 4/17/2020 95 5/17/2020 57 6/17/2020 87
3/15/2020 0 4/18/2020 87 5/18/2020 41 6/18/2020 82
3/16/2020 1 4/19/2020 94 5/19/2020 32 6/19/2020 70
3/17/2020 5 4/20/2020 42 5/20/2020 102 6/20/2020 64
3/18/2020 2 4/21/2020 60 5/21/2020 106 6/21/2020 71
3/19/2020 3 4/22/2020 86 5/22/2020 88 6/22/2020 20
3/20/2020 3 4/23/2020 115 5/23/2020 78 6/23/2020 65
3/21/2020 4 4/24/2020 93 5/24/2020 66 6/24/2020 52
3/22/2020 4 4/25/2020 89 5/25/2020 21 6/25/2020 101
3/23/2020 0 4/26/2020 59 5/26/2020 19 6/26/2020 79
3/24/2020 13 4/27/2020 45 5/27/2020 70 6/27/2020 60
3/25/2020 13 4/28/2020 54 5/28/2020 89 6/28/2020 33
3/26/2020 12 4/29/2020 78 5/29/2020 95 6/29/2020 31
3/27/2020 13 4/30/2020 95 5/30/2020 88 6/30/2020 44
3/28/2020 23........................5/31/2020 57
3/30/2020 34
3/31/2020 15
.....TOTAL 6313
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https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-148.aspx
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https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19CasesDashboard_15931020425010/Cases?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Trump's FDA commissioner won't defend the president's baseless claim that 99% of COVID-19 cases are 'totally harmless'
John Haltiwanger 1 hour ago
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When pressed he said;
Quote: | "It's not true," Bash said of Trump's assertion. "This is really important, probably one of the most important misclaims or, frankly, lies that the president has put out there," Bash added. "It really affects people's health. If they hear the president saying 99% of people are fine — they're going to change their behavior, potentially get sick, infect other people." |
Bash stayed after Hahn
Quote: | Refusing to let up, Bash then flatly asked Hahn if Trump was "wrong" to say 99% of cases are "totally harmless."
"I'm not going to get into who's right and who is wrong," Hahn said in response.
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Is that Texas Sidestepping after saying Trump lied?
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Watching MSNBC reporting masks will be passed out but people have the choice to or not to wear one for the Portsmouth New Hampshire outdoor rally July 11th. It said nothing about social distancing so mask protection will be diminished if social distancing is ignored. Passing out masks is a small concession for Trump. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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