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mad55557777
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose  |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
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LakerMindLA
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Are people factoring in defense? Bc AD is a DPOY level player. |
I can remember basically 1 NBA champion in the last 30 years that didn't have an elite, go to #1 option.
You can build a championship team without a player like AD. You can't build a championship team without a clear #1 scoring option.
AD needs to proves he demands a double team and can carry a team with his scoring. |
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will 
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Are people factoring in defense? Bc AD is a DPOY level player. |
I can remember basically 1 NBA champion in the last 30 years that didn't have an elite, go to #1 option.
You can build a championship team without a player like AD. You can't build a championship team without a clear #1 scoring option.
AD needs to proves he demands a double team and can carry a team with his scoring. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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*yawn*
AD is a generational talent and sure HOFer.
BI is having a good season right now. If he can sustain it for a few seasons, then we will be having this discussion. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| KingKobe20 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
Probably not, but PG might invite VLF |
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Judah
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What a stupid thread. You'll never find dumber threads than the knee-jerk, reactionary ones after losses. This is when people's brains turn into applesauce.
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| KingKobe20 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
I don’t think that AD and Kawhi would work well offensively, Kawhi needs the paint uncluttered (as does Lebron). They would be impressive defensively.
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mad55557777
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
I don’t think that AD and Kawhi would work well offensively, Kawhi needs the paint uncluttered (as does Lebron). They would be impressive defensively. |
So you saying the clippers may say no To AD for PG trade? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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AD is like KG that he can set the anchor the team defensively but he ain’t that type of go to guy on offense and imposed his will down the stretch like Duncan did.
BI is like Paul Pierce that he can do everything but does not quite the impact like a franchise change does but he can be number 1 on offense if you have someone like Gobert or AD setting the tone defensively.
It’s like smile now and cry later when we made the move. But the end game for us is always winning it all and gotta roll the dice when you have a chance. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| CRoost wrote: | AD is like KG that he can set the anchor the team defensively but he ain’t that type of go to guy on offense and imposed his will down the stretch like Duncan did.
BI is like Paul Pierce that he can do everything but does not quite the impact like a franchise change does but he can be number 1 on offense if you have someone like Gobert or AD setting the tone defensively.
It’s like smile now and cry later when we made the move. But the end game for us is always winning it all and gotta roll the dice when you have a chance. |
KG was a pretty dominant number 1 guy in Minnesota.
Bottom like is AD needs spacing to operate, it is vogels job to create spacing for him. |
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CRoost
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | CRoost wrote: | AD is like KG that he can set the anchor the team defensively but he ain’t that type of go to guy on offense and imposed his will down the stretch like Duncan did.
BI is like Paul Pierce that he can do everything but does not quite the impact like a franchise change does but he can be number 1 on offense if you have someone like Gobert or AD setting the tone defensively.
It’s like smile now and cry later when we made the move. But the end game for us is always winning it all and gotta roll the dice when you have a chance. |
KG was a pretty dominant number 1 guy in Minnesota.
Bottom like is AD needs spacing to operate, it is vogels job to create spacing for him. |
So was AD with Pels but can’t rely on both when their teams needed the buckets the most. They can make a clutch stop defensively though. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CRoost wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | CRoost wrote: | AD is like KG that he can set the anchor the team defensively but he ain’t that type of go to guy on offense and imposed his will down the stretch like Duncan did.
BI is like Paul Pierce that he can do everything but does not quite the impact like a franchise change does but he can be number 1 on offense if you have someone like Gobert or AD setting the tone defensively.
It’s like smile now and cry later when we made the move. But the end game for us is always winning it all and gotta roll the dice when you have a chance. |
KG was a pretty dominant number 1 guy in Minnesota.
Bottom like is AD needs spacing to operate, it is vogels job to create spacing for him. |
So was AD with Pels but can’t rely on both when their teams needed the buckets the most. They can make a clutch stop defensively though. |
KG was considerably more talented offensively. This is why KG is like a top 30 player all time though |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | *yawn*
AD is a generational talent and sure HOFer.
BI is having a good season right now. If he can sustain it for a few seasons, then we will be having this discussion. |
The question is, in the correct generation?
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | *yawn*
AD is a generational talent and sure HOFer.
BI is having a good season right now. If he can sustain it for a few seasons, then we will be having this discussion. |
The question is, in the correct generation? |
valid. |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
I don’t think that AD and Kawhi would work well offensively, Kawhi needs the paint uncluttered (as does Lebron). They would be impressive defensively. |
So you saying the clippers may say no To AD for PG trade? |
Yes
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
Above average perimeter defender who can shoot from 3. Two of our biggest weakness. |
One last thing, if Rob called clippers today and say, AD for PG, lets do it. Clippers would probably agree to move out of LA |
Good God.... AD with Kawhi, Montrezz, and Lou Will
I don't think BFF Lebron would still invite him to Taco Tuesday anymore |
I don’t think that AD and Kawhi would work well offensively, Kawhi needs the paint uncluttered (as does Lebron). They would be impressive defensively. |
So you saying the clippers may say no To AD for PG trade? |
Yes |
Maybe if we throw in kuzma as a sweetener? Lol |
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If given the choice between
AD/LeBron/Kuzma/Rondo/KCP
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AD/LeBron/Ingram/Lonzo
I'd pick the latter.
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| It’s a party in here. I miss seeing some users we used to see on a regular basis. From the rebuild days. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | If given the choice between
AD/LeBron/Kuzma/Rondo/KCP
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AD/LeBron/Ingram/Lonzo
I'd pick the latter. |
Really? Maybe if we got the number 1 pick |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | If given the choice between
AD/LeBron/Kuzma/Rondo/KCP
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AD/LeBron/Ingram/Lonzo
I'd pick the latter. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This thread isn’t necessarily especially after a lose to the Celtics it’s just gonna cause a problem.. come on man. |
This isn't exactly a reactionary thread. I was all for trading BI last year. But as I've watched him play this year, I've noticed more and more that he seems to have nearly as much of an impact on the game as AD.
Which is to say that this isn't meant to trash AD because he had a bad game today. I'm considering his entire body of work this year and comparing that to what I've seen from BI, which is unarguably extremely impressive. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I would prefer PG over both. |
The dude shooting 43% from the field this year and only averaged over 24ppg once … and even in that year shot below average from the field?
Makes sense I suppose |
He’s a clippers fan.......... |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | If given the choice between
AD/LeBron/Kuzma/Rondo/KCP
and
AD/LeBron/Ingram/Lonzo
I'd pick the latter. |
Why is this the either/or scenario? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Ingram/Ball/#4 pick trade for AD is going to be one we talk about a lot in the future. So much depends on winning the championship this year. Unlike the Raptors and Kawhi, we gave up pretty much a decade of a potential future for this one shot (we really have to hope AD re-signs with us regardless of our playoff success). |
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