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drae
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | Looking at advanced defensive metrics to see how Kuz was holding up, I noticed that Green has been trash.
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Kuz played decent defense on Kawhi. Kawhi likes to use his strength but Kuz looks a bit stronger, and Kawhi no longer has that burst to get around him. Kawhi can bully Danny a bit though, and Danny needs to resort to fouls. Kuz can defend Kawhi, can't defend stronger wings as well but if we're looking at a pure Clipper v Laker matchup, defensively Kuz will get the job done  |
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King Randle
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| I never liked this signing....certainly not at $30 million. The writing was on the wall last year in the playoffs. 6 ppg.....32% from 3’s. Van Fleet was superior to him. Now we’re stuck. At least he’s a good guy...doesn’t cause problems etc. But they could have done much better than Green. |
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waterman40
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Yeah, it was a emotional reaction, we overpaid after KL stiffed us at the altar. $15 million is way to much - I think he is worth about $5 million really in value. All we can hope for is that he does the little things, and hits his open shots. A little like Kuzma, we need to run some easy ones for him, to help him out.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Like our team and all of our players, he will be judged by his performance in April, May, and June. He been sucking it up lately, though. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| Imagine if he were shooting under 37% on 3s. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Imagine if he were shooting under 37% on 3s. |
That would he even worse and well below his career average.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| waterman40 wrote: | | Yeah, it was a emotional reaction, we overpaid after KL stiffed us at the altar. $15 million is way to much - I think he is worth about $5 million really in value. All we can hope for is that he does the little things, and hits his open shots. A little like Kuzma, we need to run some easy ones for him, to help him out. |
In a time when the average salary is $8 million, there were a few teams willing to pay him $10 million. We probably had to goose that a little to get him to sign for only two years. So $12 million is really the minimum I'd expect to get him for on a two-year contract. |
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drae
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| Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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If he shoots better, then it was great.
If not, its lethal shooter’s fault.
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drae
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| Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: |
If he shoots better, then it was great.
If not, its lethal shooter’s fault. |
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ringfinger
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| drae wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: |
If he shoots better, then it was great.
If not, its lethal shooter’s fault. |
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Hehe that’s how we do it here
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| VujacicForThree wrote: | | Okay, who would you have signed instead of Danny Green then? This includes the Kawhi stalling. Post their stats please. |
Ok so who would I have preferred over him at $15m using the same timeline
Danny signed on 7/6 For $30m
After that:
Would have signed JJ Reddick instead and saved $4m
Then used savings to sign Richaun Holmes
Or maybe sign Ariza with Holmes and have savings for Burks also
There are so many options even after Klaw delayed we could have still made
FO panic and signed as many guys familiar with the team as possible and overpaid for DG
Players we should have signed and people were BEGGING for them on this board
SG: Burks because he was cheap
F: RHJ - young and cheap and solid defender
F: Stanley Johnson - young w/potential to grow with team
PG: Burc - best option left when time came
And there was plenty of other young talent or quality players left out there that we could have signed and helped this season and for the future IE Stanley). But we went with “comfortable” instead of the development (high risk high reward). |
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ringfinger
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JJ redick would be nice.
None of the other players move the needle for us.
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| ringfinger wrote: | JJ redick would be nice.
None of the other players move the needle for us. |
Agree. My point is just that with savings of not paying $15m a year for DG, there were opportunities to sign numerous players with that $15 that would have helped. IE RHJ for Raptors is not amazing but absolutely helps this team right now with his defense. Especially at next to nothing from a salary perspective. We could have got him and JJ with the money of DG. And same could be said for money we gave KCP. (I also would not have let Reggie wall
And instead kept him, let him heal and then have that scoring/shooting also) |
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| I want Burks from the Warriors |
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| defense wrote: | Captain hindsight
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I mean saying captain hindsight for many on this board is a bit unfair. You can go back to my posts during the summer where I constantly said if we sign DG it will be a huge overpay, will regret it and will skip on signing young controllable, cheap assets. We did just that and DG is a huge mistake at $15m a year now. HUGE MISTAKE |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I want Burks from the Warriors |
I still don’t understand why they didn’t. I guess they figured they were set with DG/KCP
I am still curious if we end up trying to get Jeff Green. Someone is going to sign him and he can still contribute on D and may find his shot again. Plus he somewhat versatile. Not like he use to be but offers more than a few guys we have. |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I want Burks from the Warriors |
i got flamed for saying sign burks instead of bradley |
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drae
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Yo Danny … hope you enjoy the drug test coming your way  |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Great d from kuz there on the baseline
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| Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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D green used to play defense and hit 3, now he doesn't do any of this
Trade his ass for thj |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | D green used to play defense and hit 3, now he doesn't do any of this
Trade his ass for thj |
Mavs would rather have THJ..he’s better |
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drae
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| Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | JJ redick would be nice.
None of the other players move the needle for us. |
Redick doesn’t move the needle tbh. He’s not the player people think he is...and major liability on a defensive minded team like the Lakers. |
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