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Legacy
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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: EFF ranking? |
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| Does anybody know what 3 players have the top EFF ranking in history? If I were to guess I would say, Magic, Jordan, and J. Stocton. Just guesses though. |
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Dorray
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure but I do know for a fact that Larry Bird actually had a higher EFF rating than all three of those players. |
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eureca
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Here you go.
NBA
Name PER
1 Shaquille O'Neal 28.01
2 Michael Jordan 27.91
3 David Robinson 26.18
4 Wilt Chamberlain* 26.16
5 Bob Pettit* 25.41
6 Tim Duncan 25.31
7 Neil Johnston* 24.78
8 Charles Barkley 24.63
9 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
10 Tracy McGrady 24.14
11 Magic Johnson* 24.12
12 Karl Malone 23.86
13 Hakeem Olajuwon 23.58
14 Kevin Garnett 23.51
15 Larry Bird* 23.50
16 Oscar Robertson* 23.20
17 Jerry West* 22.92
18 Elgin Baylor* 22.72
19 Dirk Nowitzki 22.60
20 Kobe Bryant 22.45 |
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Legacy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats a great list. Thank you very much. |
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Dorray
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey eureca, I dunno where you got those stats, but I think you are incorrect. Check this out:
NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula: ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)) / Games).
Plus you must realize that turnovers were not counted until the 77/78 season, and blocks and steals until 73/74. So it is very difficult to know exactly what the true efficiency rating is for Kareem, The Big O, Elgin Baylor, Mr. Clutch, Wilt the Stilt and so on.
So, lets try out Larry Bird's career efficiency rating here...
((21791 + 8974 + 5695 + 1556 + 755) - ((17334 - 8591) + (4471 - 3960) + 2816) / 897)) = 29.77
How amazing is that number!? Almost a 30 efficiency rating for his entire career.
You may recall Kevin Garnett having a super high EFF rating back in his mvp year, 03/04, when his rating was 35.20!
Here are a couple other notables (for their entire career):
Jordan: 29.19
Magic: 29.15
Shaq: 28.92
Duncan: 27.20
Garnett: 27.00
Kobe: 21.12 |
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eureca
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Well yeah the ones I posted are dating back to the early 50s so yeah it probably doesnt include turnovers, blocks and steals. |
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JimRaynor55
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Dorray wrote: | | Hey eureca, I dunno where you got those stats, but I think you are incorrect. |
What he posted wasn't EFF, but PER. EFF doesn't account for minutes played, and it basically treats every statistic the same. PER takes out the problem of playing time by using per 48 minute stats (so you aren't significantly penalized if you play 32 minutes while the other guy plays 40), and tries to actually weigh each stat by its impact on the game. |
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Legacy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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You guys are geniuses. I'm glad I started this one.
Thanks fellas! |
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