I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
Be kinda pissed if they take this tax hit but couldn’t go from $7m to $8.6m for AC
AC supposedly asked for 10 per from the Lakers, according to Shelbourne. Presumably it was only a two year deal, to coincide with Lebron and WB’s deals ending, and AC wanted a little more money per year to make up for the lower amount of guaranteed money for a three year deal.
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mhan00 wrote:
governator wrote:
MikeTrout wrote:
TDRock wrote:
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
Be kinda pissed if they take this tax hit but couldn’t go from $7m to $8.6m for AC
AC supposedly asked for 10 per from the Lakers, according to Shelbourne. Presumably it was only a two year deal, to coincide with Lebron and WB’s deals ending, and AC wanted a little more money per year to make up for the lower amount of guaranteed money for a three year deal.
Whatever the case I'm with governator. If they could do all this for Avery - as much as I'm looking forward to him defensively - they could've done all this for CaruGOAT and then I wouldn't need Avery lol
But somebody referred to Avery as a plug and play addition and I agree with that and I think he's fine for that.
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
Be kinda pissed if they take this tax hit but couldn’t go from $7m to $8.6m for AC
AC supposedly asked for 10 per from the Lakers, according to Shelbourne. Presumably it was only a two year deal, to coincide with Lebron and WB’s deals ending, and AC wanted a little more money per year to make up for the lower amount of guaranteed money for a three year deal.
Whatever the case I'm with governator. If they could do all this for Avery - as much as I'm looking forward to him defensively - they could've done all this for CaruGOAT and then I wouldn't need Avery lol
But somebody referred to Avery as a plug and play addition and I agree with that and I think he's fine for that.
Again? The tax for Bradley if guarantee will be 7mil; for AC will have been 40+mil
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lakerican wrote:
TDRock wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
governator wrote:
MikeTrout wrote:
TDRock wrote:
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
Be kinda pissed if they take this tax hit but couldn’t go from $7m to $8.6m for AC
AC supposedly asked for 10 per from the Lakers, according to Shelbourne. Presumably it was only a two year deal, to coincide with Lebron and WB’s deals ending, and AC wanted a little more money per year to make up for the lower amount of guaranteed money for a three year deal.
Whatever the case I'm with governator. If they could do all this for Avery - as much as I'm looking forward to him defensively - they could've done all this for CaruGOAT and then I wouldn't need Avery lol
But somebody referred to Avery as a plug and play addition and I agree with that and I think he's fine for that.
Again? The tax for Bradley if guarantee will be 7mil; for AC will have been 40+mil
Don't come to me with mathematical logic and facts.
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
Be kinda pissed if they take this tax hit but couldn’t go from $7m to $8.6m for AC
AC supposedly asked for 10 per from the Lakers, according to Shelbourne. Presumably it was only a two year deal, to coincide with Lebron and WB’s deals ending, and AC wanted a little more money per year to make up for the lower amount of guaranteed money for a three year deal.
Thing is that's entirely reasonable and easily tradeable. Rob should have done that if for nothing else asset management and having movable contracts, let alone his value as a player. Honestly that's a no brainer.
Hey, I run the risk of giving Ennis the Marcus Banks fame lol! But...
Damn, Ennis averaged almost exact numbers as Bradley, 47% fg and 42% 3pt
and is described as a good defender as well as Ennis is 6’6”, AB is 6’3”. Lakers have:
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Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Hey, I run the risk of giving Ennis the Marcus Banks fame lol! But...
Damn, Ennis averaged almost exact numbers as Bradley, 47% fg and 42% 3pt
and is described as a good defender as well as Ennis is 6’6”, AB is 6’3”. Lakers have:
Even with injuries why is there a need for an 8th guard...at 6’”3?
Did Ennis do something off court we don’t know about?
2 years ago he hounded Luka D and made him look really uncomfortable. Avery also was shooting decently, especially from mid range. I hated to see him not return for the bubble, but I understood, because there was no vaccine.
I didn’t agree with trading the championship squad for a bunch of misfits and scrubs. Now it appears LeLinka might be showing regrets after bringing back Howard, Rondo, and Bradley. Maybe next year they’ll re-sign Danny Green and Javale.
I really dont get this...
Westbrook already plays atleast 30mpg and then we have a glut of other guys to fill in the rest of the guard minutes: Monk,Nunn,Rondo,Bazemore,Ellington
where does Bradley fit in?
He's not a need, no idea why Lakers picked him up but
lets see how this is going to work out... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team !
Did Ennis do something off court we don’t know about?
30 teams passed on him.
There's always that guy on LG that every GM is overlooking and will make all the difference to the Lakers and they just keep passing on him because every Lakers GM is so dumb...and then a couple years later said dude is out of the league forever.
the most important issue about his contract is that lakers can get out of the rest of contract if they waive him jan 7 or earlier.
we can still maintain flexibility for buyout market.
essentially got an additional guard while people are injured.
perhaps ennis is not willing to go on non-guaranteed contract.
we can still waive bradley after 2 weeks and sign ennis etc.
would contracts that start after season begin be fully guaranteed for entire season?
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I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
This part is key. They have until early January to waive him without taking the tax hit
As a nonguaranteed deal, Av will still incur a tax hit for every day of service he gives us. His base salary becomes fully guaranteed if he remains on the roster past Jan 10, but he still collects a check for the time he does spend with us and in the process a tax continues to collect.
Currently the tax rate is 3.25 and as a vet min player, his deal incurs a tax towards a prorated amount of a 2+ seasoned vet (ie 1.7m).
There are 80 days between opening day and the cut-down date of Jan 10th.
There are 174 days between opening night and closing night in the regular season.
So per day, he will be about a 30k tax hit till he gets waived.
If he gets waived right before the cut-down date (has to hit waivers on Jan 7th), then he will be about a 2.5m tax hit. And if he sticks in the roster, he will be a 5.4m tax hit.
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That team can defend. He can play the Patrick Beverley role for this team and he's only 30. He was our starting PG in 2020. Not saying he will be that this year but it's a good signing
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Hey, I run the risk of giving Ennis the Marcus Banks fame lol! But...
Damn, Ennis averaged almost exact numbers as Bradley, 47% fg and 42% 3pt
and is described as a good defender as well as Ennis is 6’6”, AB is 6’3”. Lakers have:
Welcome back AB!! What a shocking move by LeGM with the log jam of shirt dudes but necessary with many of them hurt.
Does AB remember how to guard Steph and of so we actually need him the opener.
You can’t guard Steph but he should know how to try to deal with him after a whole training camp with the warriors. Warriors did mass camp cuts the second they said Klay was on path to be cleared for next month lol
Hey, I run the risk of giving Ennis the Marcus Banks fame lol! But...
Damn, Ennis averaged almost exact numbers as Bradley, 47% fg and 42% 3pt
and is described as a good defender as well as Ennis is 6’6”, AB is 6’3”. Lakers have:
Even with injuries why is there a need for an 8th guard...at 6’”3?
Did Ennis do something off court we don’t know about?
The only team Ennis was linked to was the bulls early in free agency by the athletic in the sub news, but he also wanted more than the minimum and a guarantee of mins from them. Yeah that looks stupid on him now
I'll repost this since this tweet didn't make it into this thread
TDRock wrote:
Per Gozlan
Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.
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