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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:23 am Post subject:
Eventual 9 man
PG: Bradley: Hoping he’ll continue his play from Memphis and be a secondary ball handler to Lebron.
SG Green: 3-D. Hopes he continues his mid 40s 3 pt efficiency
Pt F: Lebron: Prime Mover on offense. Hope he leans out as he gets older.
Pw F: AD: MVP MVP MVP
C: Cousins: Further Removed from achillies injury. Provides spacing on the floor more than Mcgee. Also serves as bruiser defensively,
Kuzma: Fills in both Forward roles. Hope his Lethal shooter work pays off.
McGee: back up center, but fills ADs slot as a rim runner/ shot blocker
Cook: Hoping JKidd further his development as a point guard. Already top flight shooter
KCP: Want to see that D he was known for
Wild Card: AC Fresh- i’m skeptical, but could break into the 9 man given of Bradley and Cook do not perform
Warm Chair: Rondo-Will just be outplayed by the other guards
Warm Chair: Dudley
Warm Chair: Daniels _________________ Darvin
Kcp/Bradley/Caruso (whoever is hot)
Green
Lebron
Kuzma
AD
Substitutions:
1Q 6' Kuz for McGee, Caruso for Kcp
Caruso/Green/Bron/Kuzma/AD
1Q 9' Cousins for AD, Rondo for Bron, Dudley for Green
Rondo/Caruso/Dudley/ Kuzma/Cousins
2Q2' KCP for Caruso
2Q 7' AD for kuz, Bron for Rondo, Green for Dudley
Kcp/Green/Bron/AD/Cousins
2Q 4' Kuz for Cousins, caruso for Kcp if he sucks
Similar rotations in second half. You can swap cook with rondo and Bradley with Caruso (wil depend on form/matchup, etc). Cousins may close sometimes over Kuz depending on matchup
Minutes:
Bron - 32
AD - 32
Green 32
KCP - 28-32
Kuz - 26-30
Cousins - 20-26
McGee - 12
Caruso/Bradley - 16-20
Rondo/Cook - 16
Dudley - 16
PG: LeBron
SG: Bradley
SF: Green
PF: Davis
C: Cousins
Starters on defense:
PG: Bradley
SG: Green
SF: LeBron
PF: Davis
C: Cousins
Swap Cousins out for Kuzma or McGee if you need someone a bit more quick footed
Yeah, this is what makes the most sense. I also see it as a close call between DMC and Kuzma as the starter. We will see. But minutes wise:
PG: James (34) Caruso (14)
SG: Bradley (28) KCP (20)
SF: Green (26) Daniels (22)
PF: Davis (14) Kuzma (34)
C: Cousins (28) Davis (20)
James, Cousins and even AD might play 60-70 games each. In the situations where they sit, the Lakers could insert "spot starters" such as Rondo, McGee or Dudley. For example, Rondo helps replace some of Lebron's play making and McGee helps replace some of AD's shot blocking and rim running, while keeping the rest of the rotation intact.
wow, things changed quite a bit since this thread started. Lebron as "PG" and adding Bradley. Now it makes more sense, Lebron guards the weakest 1-3 player and you surround Lebron with probably Green and KCP guarding the other two better offensive players. Hard to say which of KCP or Bradley works better with the bench unit which = Rondo (no shooting) so Bradley could actually work well there. I wonder if this puts Caruso further down the bench now as Cook would seem to be next in line to go in (shooting).
wow, things changed quite a bit since this thread started. Lebron as "PG" and adding Bradley. Now it makes more sense, Lebron guards the weakest 1-3 player and you surround Lebron with probably Green and KCP guarding the other two better offensive players. Hard to say which of KCP or Bradley works better with the bench unit which = Rondo (no shooting) so Bradley could actually work well there. I wonder if this puts Caruso further down the bench now as Cook would seem to be next in line to go in (shooting).
Lebron as the PG means what exactly? He is already slotted in as the ball dominant/ball distributor on the team.
Also, can Green really guard opposing SF's? And can Kuz really play some SF?
Lots of questions about who's playing when and where with this team
wow, things changed quite a bit since this thread started. Lebron as "PG" and adding Bradley. Now it makes more sense, Lebron guards the weakest 1-3 player and you surround Lebron with probably Green and KCP guarding the other two better offensive players. Hard to say which of KCP or Bradley works better with the bench unit which = Rondo (no shooting) so Bradley could actually work well there. I wonder if this puts Caruso further down the bench now as Cook would seem to be next in line to go in (shooting).
Lebron as the PG means what exactly? He is already slotted in as the ball dominant/ball distributor on the team.
Also, can Green really guard opposing SF's? And can Kuz really play some SF?
Lots of questions about who's playing when and where with this team
it means he has the ball in his hands 90% of the time after it crosses half court probably... In theory it means less shots from Lebron more 3's from our gunners so Rondo doesn't work as a starter (not a great distance shooter) if Lebron sticks with his plan to be our Magic Johnson. If Lebron doesn't want to carry the offense for a period of time you can play Rondo or Caruso with him and let them handle the initial part of the offense.
I'd assume since Lebron plans to spend so much energy being a pass first player he'll need two guys on the floor at all times to defend the better offensive players and cover for Lebron on defense. These guys should be able to hit the 3 so... enter Danny Green, KCP and Bradley. I've never heard Danny Green can't guard 3's, is this recent? KCP played some 3 last year as well.
It's going to be a dogfight for those other minutes between Cook, Caruso and Troy Daniels, I really couldn't pick a favorite right now.
This is what I would do. Kuzma + Cousins off the bench would be a huge 1-2 punch against opposing benches. This rotation would allow LeBron and AD to rest a lot without worrying about scoring or rebounding.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:33 pm Post subject: Who's your starting lineup
As LFR's tweet said, the starting lineup plays 2.5-3x more than any other unit on the floor. With that in mind, and given a team that is deeper than years past, who've you got?
PG: Bradley
SG: KCP
SF: Green
PF: James
C: Davis
Reasoning:
As much as AD likes to play center, he needs spacing to be effective. This isn't 1995, and PFs are now more like wings than big men. He's got to play down low where he belongs. AD is the perfect center for the modern game.
I'm assuming here Vogel can get KCP to play defense, and that his shot is somewhat respectable. Swap him out for Cook if the shots not falling. We have 2.5 capable defenders (Bradley is the 0.5), 4 players who can shoot the 3, and two guys who can score the ball reliably - James and Davis. Put them in PnR and have the others space the floor.
Issue here is that we don't want anyone not LeBron or Davis trying to create. KCP and Green are below average in that situation, notably. Kuzma would solve that problem a bit, but he's too big of a defensive liability.
Off the bench, I'd probably bring in Rondo and Cousins to form a nice duo. Let Kuzma be a wing scorer, and maybe round it out with Dudley and one of our remaining guards like Caruso. _________________ (bleep) David Stern.
If we start McGee and try to run a LeBron - AD PnR, he is going to clog up the lane, and his man can help on the role without sacrificing anything. It might really bottleneck the offense. Or you'd have to run a McGee - LeBron PnR and then have AD space, but you lose so much of what he can do then. _________________ (bleep) David Stern.
If we start McGee and try to run a LeBron - AD PnR, he is going to clog up the lane, and his man can help on the role without sacrificing anything. It might really bottleneck the offense. Or you'd have to run a McGee - LeBron PnR and then have AD space, but you lose so much of what he can do then.
Yup. So let AD THINK it's best for him to start at the 4, then after a little while he'll get tired of the issue you suggested, and slide into position at the 5.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Who's your starting lineup
bfc1125roy wrote:
As LFR's tweet said, the starting lineup plays 2.5-3x more than any other unit on the floor. With that in mind, and given a team that is deeper than years past, who've you got?
PG: Bradley
SG: KCP
SF: Green
PF: James
C: Davis
Reasoning:
As much as AD likes to play center, he needs spacing to be effective. This isn't 1995, and PFs are now more like wings than big men. He's got to play down low where he belongs. AD is the perfect center for the modern game.
I'm assuming here Vogel can get KCP to play defense, and that his shot is somewhat respectable. Swap him out for Cook if the shots not falling. We have 2.5 capable defenders (Bradley is the 0.5), 4 players who can shoot the 3, and two guys who can score the ball reliably - James and Davis. Put them in PnR and have the others space the floor.
Issue here is that we don't want anyone not LeBron or Davis trying to create. KCP and Green are below average in that situation, notably. Kuzma would solve that problem a bit, but he's too big of a defensive liability.
Off the bench, I'd probably bring in Rondo and Cousins to form a nice duo. Let Kuzma be a wing scorer, and maybe round it out with Dudley and one of our remaining guards like Caruso.
I LOVE this lineup and have them closing games (much more important than starting) especially when we need a defensive lineup. Teams will be hard pressed to get those wide open 3's (like we have given up the past several years). We also have more than enough scoring to keep this lineup in (unlike most teams putting a defensive oriented lineup on the floor). I think Frank can really help establish this lineup as one of the best defensive lineups in the league.
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probably... In theory it means less shots from Lebron more 3's from our gunners so Rondo doesn't work as a starter (not a great distance shooter) if Lebron sticks with his plan to be our Magic Johnson. If Lebron doesn't want to carry the offense for a period of time you can play Rondo or Caruso with him and let them handle the initial part of the offense.
