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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:41 am    Post subject:

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Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:07 pm    Post subject:

Keep practicing the 3-point shot AD! You’re gonna need to be one of the shooters on the floor.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:12 am    Post subject:

AD averaged 28 points in a championship run. Go back and look at Chris Bosh or Kevin Love or even KG points per game stats in the championship runs for their respective teams (Miami, Cleveland, Boston).

Nothing like the production we got from AD in the 2020 season and title run.

It was not a big 3, it was a Shaq-Kobe type of partnership and the first time Bron won this way.

Of course now with Westbrook it will change all that. However I do think AD has shown he can be a go to scorer on a championship level team. The only issue with him is health. With AD we are up on the Suns 2-1 and he’s beasting with 25/10 a night. Then he gets hurt in game 4 we don’t even win a single half without him, the series is not close.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:30 am    Post subject:

Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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AD averaged 28 points in a championship run. Go back and look at Chris Bosh or Kevin Love or even KG points per game stats in the championship runs for their respective teams (Miami, Cleveland, Boston).

Nothing like the production we got from AD in the 2020 season and title run.

It was not a big 3, it was a Shaq-Kobe type of partnership and the first time Bron won this way.

Of course now with Westbrook it will change all that. However I do think AD has shown he can be a go to scorer on a championship level team. The only issue with him is health. With AD we are up on the Suns 2-1 and he’s beasting with 25/10 a night. Then he gets hurt in game 4 we don’t even win a single half without him, the series is not close.


His overall stat lines were fantastic and the efficiency was absurd considering he was taking a good amount of perimeter shots as well. Then you throw in the fact he's the most versatile big in the NBA as well since he can be elite under the basket and on the perimeter. If AD can match that performance or anything close to it he can absolutely be a center piece. Kind of silly to think otherwise. Other then health which i'll admit is a concern there's not much else.

Will he need a guard to help get him in the right spots to unlock the most of his potential? Absolutely, kind of like the vast majority of great bigs in history.

You got guys like Jokic who might be able to "do it all" offensively but imo he will never win a Championship as the main piece in his career due to his defense and anchoring being nearly non existent. I'd take AD over him all day, every day without a second thought.

Shaq never did a single thing in the league without an elite guard on his side and that doesn't take away anything he did but it's still truth.

I think AD is right there with Giannis personally and you can debate both of them since they each do several things better then the other but these are the only 2 bigs in the NBA i'd even consider being the centerpiece of my franchise.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:20 pm    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/notlakersgm/status/1434665385538637825?s=21
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:39 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.


Your act is tired find another forum for it. We didn’t have any advantages over anyone else. We was facing the same issues they were.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/notlakersgm/status/1434665385538637825?s=21


Center AD has arrived.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:42 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
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https://twitter.com/notlakersgm/status/1434665385538637825?s=21


Center AD has arrived.


He looks the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:20 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
2019 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/notlakersgm/status/1434665385538637825?s=21


Center AD has arrived.


He looks the same.


Looks thinner?
He didn't look in shape to start last season due to circumstances.
Hoping this means he's able to work out and has been.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:37 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
2019 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/notlakersgm/status/1434665385538637825?s=21


Center AD has arrived.


He looks the same.

shirts definitely tighter than previous years. Must be a new style.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.


Stop it. Injuries played a FAR bigger role in the Bucks title path than ours. Anyone who debates that is a blind hater (like you). Also you and everyone else discrediting the “Bubble” title because we won…if it was so easy…the rest of the teams look even more pathetic for losing then…right?

I believe it when the players say it was a mental grind. If it was so easy…why does EVERY single player that was in that bubble say that they NEVER want to do that again? Because is was so easy right?

Face it…there is no way you can look at the 2020 playoffs without the Lakers being perceived as superior to the league. Easy bubble? At least we finished the job…and LOL and the rest of them not being able to win a Mickey Mouse ring…or it was such a brutal grind and the Lakers collectively were the mentally toughest through it all.

Seriously are you even a Lakers fan? I haven’t seen someone so biased AGAINST a team they’re supposed to support. And don’t say you’re being objective or neutral with your opinions…that isn’t support either. Being a fan is having a favorable (if at times biased) perception towards our team/players compared to the league. That is clearly not you, so why are you here?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.

every team had the same advantage/disadvantage.

Yet they all couldn't deal with adversity.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:34 pm    Post subject:

This lakers team was definitely built around and to showcase AD. From multiple passers (wb, bron, rondo), shooters in all 5 positions to a defensive scheme that will highlight AD’s strengths. He also has a complete offseason to rest, get in shape and work on his game even more. If AD does not display an MVP caliber season, i will be extremely disappointed at him.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.


LOL at dissing AD because he dumped ur garbage pelicans team and came to the lakers

Stay bitter
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:54 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Batguano wrote:
governator wrote:
Let’s compare AD to the more versatile championship bigs, he’s up there with these guys:
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Can you also not build with them as a center piece?


Dirk is your best argument.

You can definitely "build around" KG, but he needed a go-to-guy on offense (and Finals MVP) to make it work. Dirk didn't need that.

Giannis has one ring but he won it during arguably the most injury-affected postseason in league history. Who knows if he'd still be ringless and the narrative on him would be different had it not been for injuries.


LOL at dissing Giannis’ title after AD’s only title was after the most abnormal bastardized season the NBA has ever seen. Be better than that.


Agree with your point on Giannis. The same applies to Kawhi's title against GSW. You deal with the hand your dealt and control what you can control. However there is no reason to diminish AD's and the Lakers title to support your point.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:07 pm    Post subject:

Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:07 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.


Id rather see him improve his passing more before being focussing on his 3-ball. Itll open up his game more if opponents know he’d kill them if they double.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:42 pm    Post subject:

lurklurk wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.


Id rather see him improve his passing more before being focussing on his 3-ball. Itll open up his game more if opponents know he’d kill them if they double.


We have 3 elite creators, he is a closer. He needs to focus on finishing for now
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:29 pm    Post subject:

AD being at Dodgers games >

I love how Lakers get cheered there while Dippers get booed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:21 pm    Post subject:

Congrats AD on getting that 2nd ring…

https://twitter.com/ukcoachcalipari/status/1439416809095053313?s=21
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:36 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.

Being a volume 3pt marksman isn't enough. He has to actually make them and shoot at least 37-38% from downtown.

I think he can do it if he puts in the work. The second half of the 2019-20 season and in the playoffs he shot at least 38% from downtown.

But I agree that would be the next step for him, and it would take him from a great player to a dominant one.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:46 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.


Carmelo didn't suddenly become a good 3-point shooter at age 35.

At age 26 Carmelo shot 38% from 3-point land and at age 29 he shot 40%.

The thing is, like a lot of guys who are average 3-point shooters overall, Carmelo ping-pongs from good seasons to bad seasons. Those two good-shooting seasons I mentioned were followed by 34% and 34% seasons.

Carmelo shot 41% last year, but that doesn't mean he'll repeat that. If he plunged to 35% this year, it wouldn't be surprising or outside his norm.

As far as AD, it's hard to imagine at this point that he'll become a volume 3-point shooter at a high percentage. His career high is 34% and if he gets up to that this year I'll be happy.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Haven't read much of this thread and maybe this was mentioned but the next iteration for AD is to become a volume (5-7 attempts) 3pt marksmen. This should help minimize injuries and lengthen his career. Think if Carmelo had improved his 3ball at age 28 instead 35.

AD would dominate the league if this came to fruition.


Carmelo didn't suddenly become a good 3-point shooter at age 35.

At age 26 Carmelo shot 38% from 3-point land and at age 29 he shot 40%.

The thing is, like a lot of guys who are average 3-point shooters overall, Carmelo ping-pongs from good seasons to bad seasons. Those two good-shooting seasons I mentioned were followed by 34% and 34% seasons.

Carmelo shot 41% last year, but that doesn't mean he'll repeat that. If he plunged to 35% this year, it wouldn't be surprising or outside his norm.

As far as AD, it's hard to imagine at this point that he'll become a volume 3-point shooter at a high percentage. His career high is 34% and if he gets up to that this year I'll be happy.


Difference is in the way those shots are coming.

Earlier it was off the dribble pull up shots, now it's spotting up.

Melo is too good of a shooter not to hit 40%
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:07 pm    Post subject:

AD got married tonight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1439416809095053313

Lebron and Russ shared a ride to the wedding.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1439397360522596352

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1439444843114156032?s=19
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