Data Destruction for Hard drives.. drilling a hole is not safe enough especially on SSD

 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am    Post subject: Data Destruction for Hard drives.. drilling a hole is not safe enough especially on SSD

Multiple holes, yes.. but if you do it just like a platter/spindle drive with one hole through the platters... the error correcting on the drive can still reproduce data....

Even in mechanical drives one or two holes is not enough..

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You have not prevented someone from putting the platter under a magnetic force microscope and reading most of the data off that way

https://serverfault.com/questions/868863/does-drilling-a-hole-into-a-hard-drive-suffice-to-make-its-data-unrecoverable

Posting this for three reasons
1. PSA - Be safer
2. *I acquired an SSD with a hole in it. I placed it into my external drive adapter and HUH.. Readable data..
For Mechanical drives
3. Stop destroying perfectly good reusable hard drives
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+1. for spinning drives, overwriting all sectors renders the data impossible to recover even for determined attackers, AND avoids wasting perfectly fine hard drives. – JanErikGunnar Aug 16 '17 at 10:43


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Data Destruction for Hard drives.. drilling a hole is not safe enough especially on SSD

Drilling a hole always seemed like such a cumbersome effort for such minimal damage. You'd need a drill and a power source where a plain hammer and 30 seconds of repressed memories would give you a complete shatter.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:24 am    Post subject:

I have a bunch of old phones and hard drives I’ve pulled from laptops over the years.

What do you guys recommend as far as a) destroying the devices/drives and b) disposal?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:22 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
I have a bunch of old phones and hard drives I’ve pulled from laptops over the years.

What do you guys recommend as far as a) destroying the devices/drives and b) disposal?


A lot of paper shredding companies also do hard drive shredding. Find one that will do it while you watch.
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HCl: Hydrochloric acid
HNO3: Nitric acid
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HI: Hydroiodic acid (also known as hydriodic acid)
HClO4: Perchloric acid
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject:

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Sell them to a person who needs an older device to get through
Or who at least will keep it in use

Just my humble opinion

It's not like cardboard. It is filled with millions of years of precious metals and took 1000s of gallons of water to produce etc.

If it doesn't work see if it has value on eBay as parts ****But don't sell a broken phone with your data still on it! Just shred that thing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:39 pm    Post subject:

You can boot from a live Linux disc or USB stick and use dd or shred from the command line or install nwipe from the repository to do the job from a gui. Gparted may also have some utility and it is usually already installed on most live distros.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:09 pm    Post subject:

LarryCoon wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
I have a bunch of old phones and hard drives I’ve pulled from laptops over the years.

What do you guys recommend as far as a) destroying the devices/drives and b) disposal?


A lot of paper shredding companies also do hard drive shredding. Find one that will do it while you watch.


Thanks. I’ll look into that. I get some of the other DIY methods in here but disposal is still a concern for me (esp Lithium Ion batteries)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject:

ExPatLkrFan wrote:
You can boot from a live Linux disc or USB stick and use dd or shred from the command line or install nwipe from the repository to do the job from a gui. Gparted may also have some utility and it is usually already installed on most live distros.

this - and than reuse your disks until they actually fail. Just don't forget backups..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:26 pm    Post subject:

This should do it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:43 pm    Post subject:

LarryCoon wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
I have a bunch of old phones and hard drives I’ve pulled from laptops over the years.

What do you guys recommend as far as a) destroying the devices/drives and b) disposal?


A lot of paper shredding companies also do hard drive shredding. Find one that will do it while you watch.


Here is what their shredders look like. Quick and efficient.
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