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Staccatos
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| Bishop* wrote: | | Staccatos wrote: | | What's up with going 6-3 *after* being eliminated from the playoffs? |
Isn't that a good indication that the crew he had (Lebron) made it difficult for him to coach?? If they buy in like the G-League guys have bought in they can do wonders. See how high they got before.......... |
Being a Head Coach in the NBA should be difficult. That's why you get paid millions of dollars to do it.
If you can't coach the players you have and get them to "buy in", then you shouldn't be the head coach.
If you coach away from your best player's strengths and can't learn to hide your team's deficiencies, you shouldn't be the head coach.
If you can only get g-league players to buy in, congratulations, you should be the g-league coach.
This is the NBA, it's a star-driven league. You need to work with the players you are dealt, difficult or not. |
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venturalakersfan
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36 wins, historic Laker season. Whoop whoop.
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KBH
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | We won more games without Brook, JR and DLO on the squad despite most of our talent missing significant time? What a shocker....addition by subtraction tbh.
It’s really hard to win with inefficient plays taking up so many of the available shots, ask Booker, |
DLO wasn't even in the roster last year. And he just made the playoffs shooting 36.5% from 3P. So inefficient lol. And you like Magic doesn't know young players takes time to develop and improve in most cases. While Lakers missed the playoffs with Bron thanks to Magic's dumb roster building with washed up journeyman. He's another IT as a FO and have hot take guys supporting him. What a surprise. 😂
D’Angelo Russell:
• 21.2 points, 7 assists on 36.5% 3-or shooting (all career-high’s)
• Became 1st Nets All-Star since 2013-2014
• Became 6th player in NBA history to average 20+ ppg, 6.5+ apg w/200+ 3FGM in a season
... He bought in & became a leader. And he’s only 23. https://t.co/Ez1BfBVWXA |
So any lakers team with DLO on it won more games as a laker then we did this season? Lol, exactly.
He had a decent year, shot average #s on a very high volume, played poor D. He’s just OK, I’m not into chuckers tho. |
So you won't be happy if we sign Jimmy Butler? |
He shot 46% this season and plays positive defense, I don’t get it. |
Ah, yes, we all know FG% is the only way to evaluate a player. |
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KBH
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| I would have been disappointed with only winning one more game than last year if we had brought back the exact same team. Only winning one more than last year after signing a superstar is disastrous. |
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dabask11
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If Kuzma shot as much as DLO he’d average 22.6 points a game (this isn’t a guess, check the numbers), his scoring doesn’t impress me.
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That's like saying if you gave javale mcgee enough shots, he'd be prime shaq.
Kuzma isn't that good to get enough shots by himself. He needs players like lebron/zo to get him looks. As a result is scoring will fluctuate from time to time. It explains why despite BI being out or Lebron sitting back to backs, he never had a scoring jump.
Then there's the fact kuz has been a terrible shooter this season and more in line with his college stats. |
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Stumpy25
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Bishop* wrote: | | Staccatos wrote: | | What's up with going 6-3 *after* being eliminated from the playoffs? |
Isn't that a good indication that the crew he had (Lebron) made it difficult for him to coach?? If they buy in like the G-League guys have bought in they can do wonders. See how high they got before.......... |
It may show, like I mentioned in another post that Luke is not ready to coach superstars and veterans. He's great for young players, which is why he may be a great college coach, but dealing with vets and superstars may not be his strength. It's not easy when the big fish runs the offense and does whatever he wants. Everyone is sort of confused and are afraid of the star player's wrath. When all are in the same pond they establish a natural pecking order that works. This is why Phil Jackson was so great, not because of the triangle or any other technical aspect of the game, but because of how he handled the psychology of superstars and the role players. If you can get these things to click you have a winner. |
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matrixskillz
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worst time to start actually caring about winning. this could cost us a top 10 pick.
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VicXLakers
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play hard...be true to the game and let the chips fall where they may  |
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pjiddy
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | We won more games without Brook, JR and DLO on the squad despite most of our talent missing significant time? What a shocker....addition by subtraction tbh.
It’s really hard to win with inefficient plays taking up so many of the available shots, ask Booker, |
DLO wasn't even in the roster last year. And he just made the playoffs shooting 36.5% from 3P. So inefficient lol. And you like Magic doesn't know young players takes time to develop and improve in most cases. While Lakers missed the playoffs with Bron thanks to Magic's dumb roster building with washed up journeyman. He's another IT as a FO and have hot take guys supporting him. What a surprise. 😂
D’Angelo Russell:
• 21.2 points, 7 assists on 36.5% 3-or shooting (all career-high’s)
• Became 1st Nets All-Star since 2013-2014
• Became 6th player in NBA history to average 20+ ppg, 6.5+ apg w/200+ 3FGM in a season
... He bought in & became a leader. And he’s only 23. https://t.co/Ez1BfBVWXA |
So any lakers team with DLO on it won more games as a laker then we did this season? Lol, exactly.
He had a decent year, shot average #s on a very high volume, played poor D. He’s just OK, I’m not into chuckers tho. |
His defensive win share is actually pretty good. But keep on hating without facts lol. Yea, Lakers won more games than 2nd year DLo with Bron. Great achievement. Your talent assessment is as good as Magic's. 😂
21/7 is average. Bet how many did that on our team. How many expected Lakers to miss playoffs with Bron? Being arrogant and delusional in losing like Magic won't take this franchise forward. |
If Kuzma shot as much as DLO he’d average 22.6 points a game (this isn’t a guess, check the numbers), his scoring doesn’t impress me.
He only got into the ASG because of an injury, his team is barely above .500 and snuck into one of the last spots in the weaker conference. I guess if that’s your definition of a stud, have at it lol. |
How do your figure? Kuzma led the league in missed wide open 3s. Nearly 4 wide open shots a game and he shot 31%, barely an uptick from his overall average there (30.3%). 31% on catch and shoots. And this was with LeBron James sucking in the defense.
D'Angelo averaged 4.5 three attempts off the dribble and shot 34.6%.
38% on catch and shoots
40% on wide open 3s
Not even close, my friend. |
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kwase
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| Stumpy25 wrote: | | Bishop* wrote: | | Staccatos wrote: | | What's up with going 6-3 *after* being eliminated from the playoffs? |
Isn't that a good indication that the crew he had (Lebron) made it difficult for him to coach?? If they buy in like the G-League guys have bought in they can do wonders. See how high they got before.......... |
It may show, like I mentioned in another post that Luke is not ready to coach superstars and veterans. He's great for young players, which is why he may be a great college coach, but dealing with vets and superstars may not be his strength. It's not easy when the big fish runs the offense and does whatever he wants. Everyone is sort of confused and are afraid of the star player's wrath. When all are in the same pond they establish a natural pecking order that works. This is why Phil Jackson was so great, not because of the triangle or any other technical aspect of the game, but because of how he handled the psychology of superstars and the role players. If you can get these things to click you have a winner. |
lebron has a reputation for not wanting to be coached. Let's not forget that last year when Isaiah Thomas was on the Cavs he said they didn't even practice. That's not Luke's fault, I said as soon as Magic signed lebron that Luke was going to be the first casualty and got suspended from the site for telling the truth. I've enjoyed watching the last 3 or 4 games more than I have watching lebron hog the ball and pout like a baby all season. |
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saetarubia
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | We won more games without Brook, JR and DLO on the squad despite most of our talent missing significant time? What a shocker....addition by subtraction tbh.
It’s really hard to win with inefficient plays taking up so many of the available shots, ask Booker, |
DLO wasn't even in the roster last year. And he just made the playoffs shooting 36.5% from 3P. So inefficient lol. And you like Magic doesn't know young players takes time to develop and improve in most cases. While Lakers missed the playoffs with Bron thanks to Magic's dumb roster building with washed up journeyman. He's another IT as a FO and have hot take guys supporting him. What a surprise. 😂
D’Angelo Russell:
• 21.2 points, 7 assists on 36.5% 3-or shooting (all career-high’s)
• Became 1st Nets All-Star since 2013-2014
• Became 6th player in NBA history to average 20+ ppg, 6.5+ apg w/200+ 3FGM in a season
... He bought in & became a leader. And he’s only 23. https://t.co/Ez1BfBVWXA |
So any lakers team with DLO on it won more games as a laker then we did this season? Lol, exactly.
He had a decent year, shot average #s on a very high volume, played poor D. He’s just OK, I’m not into chuckers tho. |
His defensive win share is actually pretty good. But keep on hating without facts lol. Yea, Lakers won more games than 2nd year DLo with Bron. Great achievement. Your talent assessment is as good as Magic's. 😂
21/7 is average. Bet how many did that on our team. How many expected Lakers to miss playoffs with Bron? Being arrogant and delusional in losing like Magic won't take this franchise forward. |
If Kuzma shot as much as DLO he’d average 22.6 points a game (this isn’t a guess, check the numbers), his scoring doesn’t impress me.
He only got into the ASG because of an injury, his team is barely above .500 and snuck into one of the last spots in the weaker conference. I guess if that’s your definition of a stud, have at it lol. |
He should have been ahead of the likes of Lowry already. And got ahead of Butler who was an all star in the West last season. But keep on hating a 23 year old who's had his break out season just 'cos you were wrong from the start about him(look how much goal posts have been moved since 2016 regarding hot takes about his career). As for the Nets, they are 6th and took huge strides this season. While Lakers barely improved getting a top 2 player at the time in Bron. Thanks to Magic and co. It's not like Lakers have been good against East teams either. Nets swept Lakers.
Kuzma is a PF who took 6 3s per year and shot 30% lol. 45.6% FG for a 6"9 PF is pretty bad which is no surprise given he's a terrible high volume 3P shooter this season.
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