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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject:

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I sat in a spurs arena one time. And the stuff they told kobe was mind boggling everything from rapist to you need Shaq to win or you pau bailed him out. Something along those lines.... point is it didn’t phase kobe one bit. He went out there kept his mouth shut and played.

Maybe my generation is not use to that kind of treatment. Therefore I think that’s why I feel we need coddling. Too sensitive, thin skinned

It's easy for you or I or any of us to say something like that, but if we were an NBA rookie and were experiencing that kind of heckling for the first time, it would probably affect most of us to some extent.

It takes some time for most people to develop a thicker skin to be able to handle that kind of stuff. Even Kobe, in his own way, was really sensitive to media criticism, even if he never publicly complained.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject:

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Jazz Fans,

In light of recent events, we want to address fan behavior and how we choose to express the passion we all have for the Utah Jazz.

Whether it’s online through social media, at gatherings with friends and family, or at the arena on game nights, we help the world Take Note of our team. Because of this, we all have a shared responsibility to represent the Utah Jazz and the community in the right way.

The Utah Jazz will strictly enforce the NBA Fan Code of Conduct with zero tolerance.

We do not permit hate speech, racism, sexism or homophobia. We also do not allow disruptive behavior, including bullying, foul or abusive language, or obscene gestures. Violators may be subject to ejection and other penalties, including a lifetime ban.

If you see or hear anything that violates our standards, please say something. Report any violations to the nearest Guest Services or Security staff member. You can also use the arena text line (801-901-8111) and an arena representative will respond to address the matter.

Now, let us be clear: we want you to be loud. You’re the reason we have the best home-court advantage in the league, and we want to keep it that way. We have a unique arena that provides the crowd with close proximity to the court and an increased ability to affect the game. Players and coaches on both teams can hear you, and we expect all fans to respect them—as well as the game officials, arena employees, and other fans at the arena.

We all have a responsibility to respect the game of basketball and, more importantly, each other as human beings. This has always been a hallmark of our incredible fan base and should forever be our standard moving forward.

Gail Miller – Owner, Utah Jazz
Steve Starks – President, Utah Jazz



this is good.... keep the trash talking about basketball and the team and nothing else.


It's also about the specific language. It's it foul and abusive you can be thrown out, even if you're talking about someone's basketball skills.

A basketball arena is a private place, and the owners can set any reasonable rules for conduct they want.

Remember, the trash talking that may be fun for you might be annoying or unpleasant for the people around you, and the team may not want that kind of environment. If so, they have every right to throw you out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:00 am    Post subject:

We live in a litigious society, wherein our courts are burdened by frivolous cases like this. Rich people with egos and a penchant for bullying - whether standing near a basketball court sideline or in a civil court room - attack each other for pleasure and sport. It's a sickening side of humanity but not an unfamiliar one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject:

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I think this is the dumbest thing ever. As paying fans we should be able to say whatever the hell we want to players, coaches, reporters and nba executives no matter how disrespectful. They get paid millions of dollars a year and they are on the center stage so they should be able to deal with this stuff.

The only exception to this is that banter shouldn’t be racist in any way shape or form, not attack The disabled or children under the age of 18.

But when it comes to the players and basketball. It should be open season on them all day long


I'm not one to coddle millionaire athletes and celebrities, but I probably hate disrespectful jackasses more, even if they're non-racist.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject:

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999 wrote:
I think this is the dumbest thing ever. As paying fans we should be able to say whatever the hell we want to players, coaches, reporters and nba executives no matter how disrespectful. They get paid millions of dollars a year and they are on the center stage so they should be able to deal with this stuff.

The only exception to this is that banter shouldn’t be racist in any way shape or form, not attack The disabled or children under the age of 18.

But when it comes to the players and basketball. It should be open season on them all day long


You are also on private property and they have the right to evict you if your behavior doesn't meet their standards.


Yea that’s fine... let’s coddle these millionaires even more and make sure the trash talking fan who helps finance their careers do not get under their skin.


Pretty sure the fan broke the standard of conduct for fans.

Depending on the arena, sometimes that's announced each quarter or half.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:57 pm    Post subject:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/12/17/russell-westbrook-jazz-sued-100-million/

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Banned fan and girlfriend suing Jazz, Russell Westbrook for $100 million

Russell Westbrook confronting a Utah heckler last season has had major ramifications.

Westbrook got fined. The Jazz banned the fan, Shane Keisel. The NBA introduced more stringent policy on abusive or hateful fans.

And, as he promised, Keisel is suing.

Benjamin Wood and Andy Larsen of The Salt Lake Tribune:

A man who received a lifetime ban from Vivint Smart Home Arena in March is suing the Utah Jazz and the Houston Rockets’ Russell Westbrook, claiming he was wrongly accused of shouting racist and derogatory remarks at the professional basketball player. In a lawsuit filed Monday in 4th District Court, attorneys for Shane Keisel argue that Keisel engaged only in typical crowd behavior when he and his girlfriend Jennifer Huff were subjected to a “tirade” from an “irate” Westbrook, who was then playing for the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Keisel and Huff want a public apology and significant financial damages, according to the suit. The attorneys are seeking $68 million in damages for Keisel and $32 million for Huff on claims of defamation and infliction of emotional distress.

The lawsuit states that because of the claims against him, Keisel and members of his family were harassed, and that he had to alter his driving routes, stop using his first name and install new locks and security cameras at his home.

He lost his jobs at Brent Brown Toyota and Skywest Airlines after the incident with Westbrook became major news.

A couple important distinctions:

The Jazz banned Keisel for “excessive and derogatory verbal abuse directed at a player during the game that violated the NBA Code of Conduct.” Gail Miller owns both the Jazz and the arena. The Jazz have leeway to determine who enters their building.

Westbrook, the with the Thunder, said Keisel told him to “get down on my knees like you used to.” Keisel said he told Westbrook to ice his knees because he’d need it. Either is at least plausible. Based on his hearing of the heckle, Westbrook said, “I think it’s racial.” Westbrook has a right to his opinion.

Did the Jazz, after years of being soft on racist fan behavior, come down too hard on Keisel to make an example of him? Maybe. Have people reacted too harshly too Keisel based on a disputed set of facts? Maybe.

But it’s hard to see how that that will lead to Westbrook and the Jazz being found liable
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:15 pm    Post subject:

This video is a must watch. Keisel's tweets and support of Trump make him suspect to me.

Who is Shane Keisel? Utah Jazz fan banned after altercation with Russell Westbrook

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