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| SocalDevin wrote: | | How many of these kind of threads do we need??? |
How many people work in the Lakers organization? |
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#savethekids
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Fire dr. Klapper
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | How many of these kind of threads do we need??? |
They ought to change the ability to start new topics so that people that keep making stupid topics can no longer create new stupid topics. |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Who do you want to replace him with?
Hinkie? |
Griffin would be nice |
That will work, and transition Magic in free agent pitchman, nothing more.
So many times now the media have told us Rob Pelinka has enemies. Why is this overlooked? Buss should have opened up the job to the NBA. If she felt nepotism didn't work before, but in some measure, she continues it. Magic is absolutely nepotism, and Rob is indirectly nepotism because he represented Kobe. The 2 yrs $48 million was crippling to the Lakers, like a Trojan horse, then Pelinka bursts out of it taking over the Lakers. |
Mitch: "Well Kobe, we'd like to offer you this final contract due to your immeasurable impact on this franchise, and we want to see you retire a Laker"
Rob: "Nah we good" |
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Bol
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| Rob seems kind of redundant with Magic around. They're both schmoozers, hype guys, good for charming free agents and the media, but not strong in other areas of team construction. In retrospect, it probably would've made more sense to pair up more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy (like Mitch, but not Mitch) with Magic. |
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AFireInside619
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| I’m not sure what Rob does, but his feud with Mintz was the start of this all. |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | Stay the course. Work the plan. Let guys get healthy.
Unbunch your skivvies and enjoy the ride. |
I dont think they had a plan. Well, their plan was Lebron was going to will them into the Post Season. After they got into trouble, they just starting making panic moves. They are at the point where i dont think they know what to do! I know players got hurt, but they play so stupid at times, its hard as a fan to even wanna watch anymore. |
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| Bol wrote: | | Rob seems kind of redundant with Magic around. They're both schmoozers, hype guys, good for charming free agents and the media, but not strong in other areas of team construction. In retrospect, it probably would've made more sense to pair up more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy (like Mitch, but not Mitch) with Magic. |
Agreed. I'm not even so sure that Pelinka is good for charming FAs anymore (it could very well be his fault we didn't get a meeting with PG); and let's not even get started on his diatribes to the media.
Griffin would be my choice to replace him.
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| ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
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Luminous8
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| NOt rally sure why anyone thinks Rob is the one steering the ship. |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | NOt rally sure why anyone thinks Rob is the one steering the ship. |
This.
Rob does nothing without Magic's direct oversight and/or approval. |
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So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries.
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| M2K wrote: | So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries. |
You can spout this all you want, but the fact is, we were playing our best basketball without a plethora of 45% 3pt shooters on our team by relying on defense and transition. Magic was looking pretty smart before all the injuries hit, but I guess someone has to be the scapegoat this year. |
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| trablos wrote: | | M2K wrote: | So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries. |
You can spout this all you want, but the fact is, we were playing our best basketball without a plethora of 45% 3pt shooters on our team by relying on defense and transition. Magic was looking pretty smart before all the injuries hit, but I guess someone has to be the scapegoat this year. |
Like jalen rose pointed out, our schedule was pretty easy to start the year.
This whole notion that we were a good team who just got injured is false. Plenty of teams start the year well and flame out. We were never a “4th seed”. You have to actually make the playoffs to be a seed of anything lol
Magic has failed this team and this city. The longer he is in his position the longer we will be at the bottom of the western conference |
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| daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him.
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| M2K wrote: | So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries. |
Jeanie 100%
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| trablos wrote: | | M2K wrote: | So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries. |
You can spout this all you want, but the fact is, we were playing our best basketball without a plethora of 45% 3pt shooters on our team by relying on defense and transition. Magic was looking pretty smart before all the injuries hit, but I guess someone has to be the scapegoat this year. |
There was a point in the season that we won 17 games when we were playing our best basketball. I guess you thought that Jim looked pretty smart then.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her. |
Are we sure Magic is loyal to Jeannie? He already killed on Buss sibling by coming up from behind. Who’s to say he isn’t going to ‘save’ the Lakers from Jeannie too? |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her. |
Are we sure Magic is loyal to Jeannie? He already killed on Buss sibling by coming up from behind. Who’s to say he isn’t going to ‘save’ the Lakers from Jeannie too? |
Fair point, but I mean from her perspective. She also considered Phil.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her. |
Are we sure Magic is loyal to Jeannie? He already killed on Buss sibling by coming up from behind. Who’s to say he isn’t going to ‘save’ the Lakers from Jeannie too? |
Fair point, but I mean from her perspective. She also considered Phil. |
She also reached out to Pat Riley and Jerry West, supposedly before Magic. Not sure about their availability at that time. Remember, Magic came in mid season. |
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| 22 wrote: | | trablos wrote: | | M2K wrote: | So...where does the blame rest...???
Jeannie 10%...only because she turned all the rotten decision except the coaching decision over to Magic.
Rob Pelinika 5%... don't kid yourself... Rob is a tool for carrying through on Magic's vision.
Magic 85%...his vision to completely turn over this team and he did it his way. Shipping out DLO prematurely. Selecting Lonzo "the face of the franchise" Ball over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, etc. Deciding to stock up on poor shooters. Decision to let, not yet in his prime, double/double machine Julius Randle walk. Decision to trade young, skilled 7 footer for a journeyman.
The only chance the Lakers have going into next season.. is if Magic learned his lesson this season... and don't make the same damn mistakes next season. If he hasn't...the Lakers are missing the playoffs again with or without injuries. |
You can spout this all you want, but the fact is, we were playing our best basketball without a plethora of 45% 3pt shooters on our team by relying on defense and transition. Magic was looking pretty smart before all the injuries hit, but I guess someone has to be the scapegoat this year. |
Like jalen rose pointed out, our schedule was pretty easy to start the year.
This whole notion that we were a good team who just got injured is false. Plenty of teams start the year well and flame out. We were never a “4th seed”. You have to actually make the playoffs to be a seed of anything lol
Magic has failed this team and this city. The longer he is in his position the longer we will be at the bottom of the western conference |
Magic messes up quite a bit as President, but to say he failed this city is quite an exaggeration. Magic has done more for LA than you, me, or anyone else on LG has done for anyone in our personal lives.
And to OP, how dare you point out that Tatum or Fox is better than Ball. Ball is injured, and Fox is a good player, but Ball has the chance to become great. Did you enjoy Tatum as he was scoring 6 points vs the South Bay Lakers last night? |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her. |
Are we sure Magic is loyal to Jeannie? He already killed on Buss sibling by coming up from behind. Who’s to say he isn’t going to ‘save’ the Lakers from Jeannie too? |
Fair point, but I mean from her perspective. She also considered Phil. |
I agree, I am sure that Griffin isn’t a consideration.
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | daytripper wrote: | | ^David Griffin left the Cavs in most part because they (Dan Gilbert) would not give him full control of basketball operations. I just don't see him taking a job to work under Magic esp when he has a cushy job at NBA TV.. |
Then let Magic work for him. |
That's never going to happen. Jeanie's prerequisite for the person in charge is that they are connected and loyal to her. |
Are we sure Magic is loyal to Jeannie? He already killed on Buss sibling by coming up from behind. Who’s to say he isn’t going to ‘save’ the Lakers from Jeannie too? |
Fair point, but I mean from her perspective. She also considered Phil. |
She also reached out to Pat Riley and Jerry West, supposedly before Magic. Not sure about their availability at that time. Remember, Magic came in mid season. |
She did not reach out to West.
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Trust the process!!
We are getting Zion baby! |
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