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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject:

The Rams are making moves today. They traded Marcus Peters to the Ravens for LB Kenny Young and an undisclosed 2020 draft pick, and they also acquired offensive lineman Austin Corbett from the Browns.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:20 pm    Post subject:

^Really curious move considering Talib just went on IR.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:46 pm    Post subject:

They traded a 2021 5th rounder for Corbett, and got back a 2020 5th in the Peters deal.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Since the Rams offensive line is such a concern, I'll post this here: looks like there are very strong rumors that disgruntled Redskins LT Trent Williams is about to be traded to the Browns.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject:

I dont really get what they're doing, other than maybe making cap room for Ramsey or Trent Williams.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject:

WoW Jalen Ramsey for 2 #1s
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject:

OK, so Ramsey is great if healthy, but the offensive line was the bigger concern. McVay's offense--and Goff--aren't working with a poor O-line.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject:

Ramsey is an upgrade from Peters, but at the cost of two first round picks, on a team with sizable money commitments to the current roster? And yes, the real problem is the LAR OL, it is banged up and marginal. In particular, they'll need a LT, and the better LT prospects are grabbed in the first round.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:06 pm    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
I dont really get what they're doing, other than maybe making cap room for Ramsey or Trent Williams.


Trent Williams would have been a better use of those first round picks, but then that presupposes that Washington knows what the hell they are doing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject:

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WoW Jalen Ramsey for 2 #1s


I wanted Ramsey but consecutive #1 picks? Rams are probably going to have to a trade in the off-season to get some OL help and possibly another CB to replace Talib.

I wonder if Ramsey will play this Sunday and whether we'll start to play more man coverage. We could sure use someone to try and stick with Julio.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject:

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Ramsey is an upgrade from Peters, but at the cost of two first round picks, on a team with sizable money commitments to the current roster? And yes, the real problem is the LAR OL, it is banged up and marginal. In particular, they'll need a LT, and the better LT prospects are grabbed in the first round.


Ramsey is not just an upgrade, but a major upgrade from the Rams version of Peters.

But you are right, steep price. Ramsey in my opinion needs to quiet down and deliver the goods now that he pouted his way out of Jacksonville.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject:

Jalen Ramsey is a difference maker, but I really do not get the move. The Rams already have sizable guaranteed money tied up in a few players, and Ramsey wants paid yesterday. Maybe there are some details I am missing, but it looks like the Rams will be a bad cap situation next year. If the Rams are unable to extend Ramsey, giving up 2 1st Round Picks and a 4th round picks seems crazy on the surface....especially given that it could be a Top 20 pick this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:06 pm    Post subject:

I have told football friends this for a while now ... Goff will never lead the Rams to a SB

At least they try to be competitive
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:07 pm    Post subject:

Rams need help on the offensive line, if you've seen how Goff is playing lately, he is missing his throws badly because he is always rushing to throw the ball before he gets sacked.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject:

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Rams need help on the offensive line, if you've seen how Goff is playing lately, he is missing his throws badly because he is always rushing to throw the ball before he gets sacked.


2 options ...

Get rid of the ball faster like Brady, Brees

Create plays by moving like Russ, Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson etc

He does neither because he’s limited in his understanding of schemes since McVay is pulling all the strings
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject:

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I have told football friends this for a while now ... Goff will never lead the Rams to a SB

At least they try to be competitive


I think the next wave/change in the NFL is to only pay and commit to legit franchise QB's. For some reason over the last decade, teams have began to significantly overpay mediocre young QB's...and I suspect this last waive of Goff, Wentz (and eventually Prescott) will cause teams top change their approach.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Its because its a QB's league now.
Teams don't want to go picking for discarded QB's in free agency either.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
AD23 wrote:
I have told football friends this for a while now ... Goff will never lead the Rams to a SB

At least they try to be competitive


I think the next wave/change in the NFL is to only pay and commit to legit franchise QB's. For some reason over the last decade, teams have began to significantly overpay mediocre young QB's...and I suspect this last waive of Goff, Wentz (and eventually Prescott) will cause teams top change their approach.


Wentz is far superior to Goff.

Jerry you noticed hasn’t paid Dak, Mariota might make sense in Dallas
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Its because its a QB's league now.
Teams don't want to go picking for discarded QB's in free agency either.


and teams worry too much about what another team will do. If the Rams did not pay Goff, another team would have paid him. A legit franchise QB is near priceless....a mediocre QB paid like a franchise QB becomes an albatross.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:16 pm    Post subject:

Rams gave up a lot to get Goff so it was hard to see them not pay him, especially after a Super Bowl appearance. Hopefully, his contract won't drag this team down to mediocrity like Joe Flacco.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:18 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Rams gave up a lot to get Goff so it was hard to see them not pay him, especially after a Super Bowl appearance. Hopefully, his contract won't drag this team down to mediocrity like Joe Flacco.


Even worse. Rams have a Flacco and one legged Gurley
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Rams gave up a lot to get Goff so it was hard to see them not pay him, especially after a Super Bowl appearance. Hopefully, his contract won't drag this team down to mediocrity like Joe Flacco.


to be clear, I am not sure Goff will not become a legitimate franchise QB, and the success that he has already flashed would have caused every NFL team to pay him....I just think the desperation for finding that QB that can hold down the position for a decade creates an environment where teams jump the gun and commit before the QB has proven himself worthy of a long term financial commitment.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:51 am    Post subject:

AD23 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AD23 wrote:
I have told football friends this for a while now ... Goff will never lead the Rams to a SB

At least they try to be competitive


I think the next wave/change in the NFL is to only pay and commit to legit franchise QB's. For some reason over the last decade, teams have began to significantly overpay mediocre young QB's...and I suspect this last waive of Goff, Wentz (and eventually Prescott) will cause teams top change their approach.


Wentz is far superior to Goff.

Jerry you noticed hasn’t paid Dak, Mariota might make sense in Dallas


Dak is light years better than Mariota, who is just not good.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject:

Looks like we'll be without JJ III for awhile as well.

Marquis Christian will start at SS but I like what I've been seeing from Tyler Rapp so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:57 am    Post subject:

AD23 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AD23 wrote:
I have told football friends this for a while now ... Goff will never lead the Rams to a SB

At least they try to be competitive


I think the next wave/change in the NFL is to only pay and commit to legit franchise QB's. For some reason over the last decade, teams have began to significantly overpay mediocre young QB's...and I suspect this last waive of Goff, Wentz (and eventually Prescott) will cause teams top change their approach.


Wentz is far superior to Goff.


Jerry you noticed hasn’t paid Dak, Mariota might make sense in Dallas




I was saying that years ago during the draft. Wentz was a legit top prospect in my mind, Goff more of a late first round selection. Wentz had all the tools and was the better processor. He also had a helluva upward trajectory.

Goff might be a late bloomer in terms of processing the game, but I think that he's struggling with it after being exposed in the Super Bowl. A QB needs confidence, and that might be taking a dive right now. While he wrestles with processing and confidence, McVay will probably cut back on the passing game, giving Goff time to figure it out.

The Rams have some upcoming talent problems. All teams need draft picks for three reasons:

1. Shore up weakness
2. Replace players who are wearing down
3. Keep cheap, below market contracts on the books

Number 3 is very important. If you have problems in the draft (everyone does, it is just a matter of degree) you have to cover by signing free agents. If you lack the cap space, your free agent signings are less likely to cover your weaknesses. The Rams have a large amount of money committed to a handful of players, and soon that Jalen Ramsey will be added to that commitment pot. And there will be less first round picks that can help out with that talent to cheap contract ratio.
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