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Lakers#1Team
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Hart should start with BI the 6th man. The net ratings stats back that up.
Also, the net ratings suggest that Chandler should start over McGee. Both of them split their minutes almost equally but are they playing in their optimal 5 man units? |
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Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
I agree but there's no ignoring the fact that if you're going to start, you're going to have to play nice with LBJ. If you're a square peg..
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
Yes, I agree with that. My comment regarding optimum 5-man units should extend throughout the game and especially at closing time. But the game can get out of hand just as much early as late. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
I agree but there's no ignoring the fact that if you're going to start, you're going to have to play nice with LBJ. If you're a square peg.. |
So maybe Hart is the "Bynum" in this equation. I don't think Kuz is losing his starting spot. He is the likely #2 guy on this team.
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| Lakers#1Team wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
Yes, I agree with that. My comment regarding optimum 5-man units should extend throughout the game and especially at closing time. But the game can get out of hand just as much early as late. |
I’d say we start Ingram so LBJ can save his energy in the first three quarters then we can play Lebron ball heavily with Hart on the court in the fourth quarter. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't mind starting both. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | Lakers#1Team wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
Yes, I agree with that. My comment regarding optimum 5-man units should extend throughout the game and especially at closing time. But the game can get out of hand just as much early as late. |
I’d say we start Ingram so LBJ can save his energy in the first three quarters then we can play Lebron ball heavily with Hart on the court in the fourth quarter. |
Ofcourse you're assuming we don't fall behind those 3 quarters Lebron is on standby. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Hart should start. Ingram would be the clear go-to guy for the second unit. I think that’s valuable. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Both Hart and Ingram should start. |
And bench who? 'Zo? |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Whichever of the two names most resembles the word Start gets to Start
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Eh, you can scream and shout all you want, ingram will always be a starter with this team if healthy, even if for trade purposes but mainly cause he's the second best player in the roster. It is what it is.
Also, the lakers are 2 - 2 since the game he went down, its not like they're on a winning streak
Also, josh is not a good defender yet, he fouls a lot and struggles to contain penetration, that's why im weary of trading kcp, cause for all his faults he's still this team better or second best perimeter defender, with brandon coming next. |
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| OCLakeShow wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Both Hart and Ingram should start. |
And bench who? 'Zo? |
I'd put Kuzma as the 6th man fireball off the bench in a Lou Williams role where he plays 28+ MPG.
I truly don't understand why people that complain about Ingram not scoring 20 points turn around and go "he could be our lead scorer off the bench."
Kuzma fits that role far better, is instant offense from that position, would eventually be next to a returning Rondo whom would take advantage of his spot ups and cuts to the basket, and he would be defending bench players.
So I'd have Kuzma as the microwave off the bench at 28 MPG and Ingram as the starting 3 with Hart as the starting 2. Kuz would be first off the bench for Ingram or LeBron either way.
And I'll take Kuzma getting 28 MPG off the bench as opposed to watching Lance, KCP(if he's gone) continue to get extended play.
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| PauPau wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | | Lakers#1Team wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
Yes, I agree with that. My comment regarding optimum 5-man units should extend throughout the game and especially at closing time. But the game can get out of hand just as much early as late. |
I’d say we start Ingram so LBJ can save his energy in the first three quarters then we can play Lebron ball heavily with Hart on the court in the fourth quarter. |
Ofcourse you're assuming we don't fall behind those 3 quarters Lebron is on standby. |
yes, and that is based on previous experience. The Warriors didn't play the death lineup as their starting linuep |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | OCLakeShow wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Both Hart and Ingram should start. |
And bench who? 'Zo? |
I'd put Kuzma as the 6th man fireball off the bench in a Lou Williams role where he plays 28+ MPG.
I truly don't understand why people that complain about Ingram not scoring 20 points turn around and go "he could be our lead scorer off the bench."
Kuzma fits that role far better, is instant offense from that position, would eventually be next to a returning Rondo whom would take advantage of his spot ups and cuts to the basket, and he would be defending bench players.
So I'd have Kuzma as the microwave off the bench at 28 MPG and Ingram as the starting 3 with Hart as the starting 2. Kuz would be first off the bench for Ingram or LeBron either way.
And I'll take Kuzma getting 28 MPG off the bench as opposed to watching Lance, KCP(if he's gone) continue to get extended play. |
Didn't we already try that experiment? |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
But if the game is given up by the starters, it doesn’t matter who finishes. Hot take here but all 48 matter.
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| PauPau wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | | Lakers#1Team wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Do folks care most about starting or closing lineups?
I think the latter is the most important.
Bynum was great to start games and beat up on other team's centers.
But we closed with Pau/Odom.
I hope we would focus more on who finishes games as opposed to who starts. |
Yes, I agree with that. My comment regarding optimum 5-man units should extend throughout the game and especially at closing time. But the game can get out of hand just as much early as late. |
I’d say we start Ingram so LBJ can save his energy in the first three quarters then we can play Lebron ball heavily with Hart on the court in the fourth quarter. |
Ofcourse you're assuming we don't fall behind those 3 quarters Lebron is on standby. |
We’re not very good minus Lebron ball.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | OCLakeShow wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Both Hart and Ingram should start. |
And bench who? 'Zo? |
I'd put Kuzma as the 6th man fireball off the bench in a Lou Williams role where he plays 28+ MPG.
I truly don't understand why people that complain about Ingram not scoring 20 points turn around and go "he could be our lead scorer off the bench."
Kuzma fits that role far better, is instant offense from that position, would eventually be next to a returning Rondo whom would take advantage of his spot ups and cuts to the basket, and he would be defending bench players.
So I'd have Kuzma as the microwave off the bench at 28 MPG and Ingram as the starting 3 with Hart as the starting 2. Kuz would be first off the bench for Ingram or LeBron either way.
And I'll take Kuzma getting 28 MPG off the bench as opposed to watching Lance, KCP(if he's gone) continue to get extended play. |
Didn't we already try that experiment? |
Not really we were playing Kuz at small ball 5. Which won’t be the case anymore since we have Tyson Chandler |
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| BigBoi wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | OCLakeShow wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Both Hart and Ingram should start. |
And bench who? 'Zo? |
I'd put Kuzma as the 6th man fireball off the bench in a Lou Williams role where he plays 28+ MPG.
I truly don't understand why people that complain about Ingram not scoring 20 points turn around and go "he could be our lead scorer off the bench."
Kuzma fits that role far better, is instant offense from that position, would eventually be next to a returning Rondo whom would take advantage of his spot ups and cuts to the basket, and he would be defending bench players.
So I'd have Kuzma as the microwave off the bench at 28 MPG and Ingram as the starting 3 with Hart as the starting 2. Kuz would be first off the bench for Ingram or LeBron either way.
And I'll take Kuzma getting 28 MPG off the bench as opposed to watching Lance, KCP(if he's gone) continue to get extended play. |
Didn't we already try that experiment? |
Not really we were playing Kuz at small ball 5. Which won’t be the case anymore since we have Tyson Chandler |
I'm down for either one on the bench heh |
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