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LKA
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| pio2u wrote: | | ahaider wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | cital wrote: | | YSong wrote: | | Because as fans we overrate our young guys. Also Doc is a much better motivator and coach than Luke. |
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Doc is a good coach 
Actually most people here don't overrate the guys - it's rather their patience doesn't align with their development |
Either way, at this point, Doc is a better coach than Luke. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| LKA wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | ahaider wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | cital wrote: | | YSong wrote: | | Because as fans we overrate our young guys. Also Doc is a much better motivator and coach than Luke. |
THIS! |
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Doc is a good coach
Actually most people here don't overrate the guys - it's rather their patience doesn't align with their development |
Either way, at this point, Doc is a better coach than Luke. |
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I've been cruising\island hopping in the Caribbean. I'll be back next week.
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| This season thus far sure. Thread title is misleading as hell. If you were a casual basketball fan and only read LG you would think the Clippers won 16 World Titles and the Lakers have been bums for 5 decades |
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RI Laker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Doc is an azz clown |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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what
how many chips have they won
moving on
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SuperboyReformed
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to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | what
how many chips have they won
moving on |
I think the OP was asking about this season. Not all-time. |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | what
how many chips have they won
moving on |
I think the OP was asking about this season. Not all-time. |
OP was asking about the past few years
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | what
how many chips have they won
moving on |
I think the OP was asking about this season. Not all-time. |
OP was asking about the past few years |
Ok. But they have won as many chips as we have the past few years and gotten further in the playoffs. |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | what
how many chips have they won
moving on |
I think the OP was asking about this season. Not all-time. |
OP was asking about the past few years |
Ok. But they have won as many chips as we have the past few years and gotten further in the playoffs. |
Lakers are a chip-or-bust type of team so by that measure we have been equally unsuccessful as the Clippers
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leor_77
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| The Clippers are a mirage...Only have average and some good players. They won't be able to sustain winning so much without great players. |
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Steve007
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| troy wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Bol wrote: | | Apparently you get a trophy now for going 14-6. Good deal. |
I don’t think that’s the point. Seing the Clippers fail in epic fashion is so much fun.
It’s just that now they aren’t a joke anymore because West brings credibility combined with Ballmer’s deep pockets. The Lakers have competition now, this isn’t the joke clippers anymore, although I would love to see another epic fail. I just think they have staying power in the playoff chase.
Stars win in the playoffs so I don’t see them as a championship threat, but they are set up to possible land star(s) this summer. |
It's going to take some time for people in Southern California to adjust to the idea that Donald Sterling is gone and that the Clippers are not regarded as a joke around the league any more. That's understandable. The question is whether potential free agents view the Clippers as a serious destination. We shall see. |
It apparently is also quite the challenge for certain fans to realize that, in comparison to the Lakers, the Clippers have been the better team, have attracted better players, and have had better front office leadership for almost the past 7 years. |
But 7 years is nothing. Thread is basically saying the Clippers are better if you don’t include prime Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Wilt, etc. and include Blake and CP3 in the comparisons. So you have to throw out all the Laker greats and include some of the greatest players the Clippers ever had.
Yes the Clippers have been better recently. But the Lakers were rebuilding. From 2012 until June of 2018, who wasn’t better than the Lakers? |
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Andre2K
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG 
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chantruong
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron 
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
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Steve007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Bol wrote: | | Apparently you get a trophy now for going 14-6. Good deal. |
I don’t think that’s the point. Seing the Clippers fail in epic fashion is so much fun.
It’s just that now they aren’t a joke anymore because West brings credibility combined with Ballmer’s deep pockets. The Lakers have competition now, this isn’t the joke clippers anymore, although I would love to see another epic fail. I just think they have staying power in the playoff chase.
Stars win in the playoffs so I don’t see them as a championship threat, but they are set up to possible land star(s) this summer. |
I don’t remember anyone on LG caring about the Clippers failing until the Clippers stopped being terrible. So even people wanting them to lose makes them look relevant.
The Lakers had a lot more haters over the years. People wanted players like Shaq and Kobe to fail. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
We traded Lou for Kuzma. That was a great deal. |
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Andre2K
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
We traded Lou for Kuzma. That was a great deal. |
Debatable.
I take Lou over Kuzma but that’s because I like winning.
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chantruong
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre2K wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
We traded Lou for Kuzma. That was a great deal. |
Debatable.
I take Lou over Kuzma but that’s because I like winning. |
Rather have Kuzma's tiny rookie contract over Lou's. Not to mention Kuz is way younger and has some potential. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
We traded Lou for Kuzma. That was a great deal. |
Not even close.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | what
how many chips have they won
moving on |
I think the OP was asking about this season. Not all-time. |
OP was asking about the past few years |
Ok. But they have won as many chips as we have the past few years and gotten further in the playoffs. |
Lakers are a chip-or-bust type of team so by that measure we have been equally unsuccessful as the Clippers |
No we aren’t. But you knew what the OP meant right? Like, I don’t need to explain it. |
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Andre2K
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | to answer OP, the CLips right now are far more talented than we are. I mean that overall. LG will argue we have more talent with defense, stars, rebounding, etc. But so what. They have way more shooting talent. They're not bricking fts for losses, and bricking everything while down 2 pts with 1 minute left (I'm talking desperate threes and other shots, you gotta be able to make those).
We had Lou, and we didn't like him. For no reason really. Now they have him and he is doing great. I'd love to have his 90+ ft% on this squad. But we dont like that. We don't like KCP either, right? ANyone who is a good shooter, we dont like. Well, now we have this bad shooting team and we are wondering why a good shooting team is better than us?
screw the clips. |
Welcome to LG |
We don't even like Lebron
Although I understand trading Lou Will for a 1st round pick |
We traded Lou for Kuzma. That was a great deal. |
Debatable.
I take Lou over Kuzma but that’s because I like winning. |
Rather have Kuzma's tiny rookie contract over Lou's. Not to mention Kuz is way younger and has some potential. |
That’s why I said debatable.
Lou Wil’s contract is tiny too compared to the value he adds to a team. Essentially it’s a trade off between young and old. Kuzma has indicated that he wants to be a max player lol.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | As a basketball ops guy Jerry West is no damn joke people.
Have you all heard the rumored story of him threatening to quit if the Warriors traded Thompson for Love? Apparently everyone else in the room was down to acquire Love except him, so he lost it.
Long-story short: They respected his opinion so much that they listened ... and hung four banners. |
He’s the real deal. Not many executives would have the balls to tell their owner that your newly signed (to long-term deal) franchise player is not the one.
Gets rid of Blake and gets great return
They let DeAndre go
Even the CP3 trade netted them key contributors Lou, Harrell and Beverly.
Jerry West is a boss. Shame egos got in the way because now the clippers are reaping the benefits. |
A common theme it seems.
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| Chad09 wrote: | Top 10 in O
Top 10 in D
Top 10 in FG%
Top 10 in 3P%
Top 10 in FT% Lakers are 26th in that.  |
It's almost like this guy Jerry West crafted the Lakers team that Shaq said yes to joining.. and is now trying to do similar with Kawhi.
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| MJST wrote: | | Chad09 wrote: | Top 10 in O
Top 10 in D
Top 10 in FG%
Top 10 in 3P%
Top 10 in FT% Lakers are 26th in that. |
It's almost like this guy Jerry West crafted the Lakers team that Shaq said yes to joining.. and is now trying to do similar with Kawhi. |
he went to memphis and now theyre good. (I like to think he told Pau to go to Lakers).
He went to the Warriors, and now theyre a dynasty.
He went to the damn clippers and now theyre good. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| leor_77 wrote: | | The Clippers are a mirage...Only have average and some good players. They won't be able to sustain winning so much without great players. |
They just need to do enough to entice a big name free agent to sign with them.....and somehow they are in the conversation turning other teams garbage into a team that is winning right now. |
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