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 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:27 am Post subject: James ‘Whitey’ Bulger, Boston Mob Kingpin, Found Dead In Federal Prison |
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James “Whitey” Bulger — who ruled Boston’s criminal underworld for a quarter-century, stayed on the run for 16 years and then spent the last years of his life in a high-security federal prison — has died, The Boston Globe and NBC News report. He was 89.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons had transferred Bulger from a Florida prison to a high-security penitentiary in West Virginia after a brief stop at a transfer site in Oklahoma City. He was listed as an inmate at USP Hazelton as of Tuesday morning, according to The Boston Globe. Within hours, reports emerged that he had been found dead and the Globe reported that he had been killed.
The report he was killed is still unconfirmed, but seems likely.
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Whitey sleeps with da fishes.
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He was caught on a tip. The tipper was in Iceland. She had lived in complex close to Bulger. Her identity was leaked. I don't think that was right. Hope she's not in danger. | Quote: | | Bjornsdottir and her husband Halldor Gudmundsoon lived for months at a time in an apartment close to the Princess Eugenia complex in Santa Monica, Calif., where Bulger and Greig had spent the past 13 years living a double life. |
Former Miss Iceland Got Cool $2 Million for Whitey Bulger Tip
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Yep . . . it was murder
A prison source tells us Bulger -- who is wheelchair bound -- was in general population Tuesday morning. We're told he was approached by 3 other inmates who wheeled him into a corner that could not be seen by surveillance cameras.
Our source says the inmates beat Bulger -- one used a lock in a sock as a weapon -- until he was unconscious. They also attempted to gouge his eyes out with some type of shiv, but were unsuccessful. Bulger fell to the ground covered in bruises and with several dents in his head.
As for the eyes, we've been doing some research -- back in the days of Murder Inc., (the 1940s gangsters, not the rappers) mobsters would gouge out the eyes of witnesses who talked to cops.
The sock thing reminds me of "Bad Boys" and Sean Penn's pillow case of soda cans.
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It was not only murder it reeks of setup. Why would they put him in general population? He had been in Coleman II U.S. Penitentiary. It was considered a safe facility.
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| Quote: | | Former prisoner Nate A. Lindell wrote that USP Coleman II was "a so-called special-needs prison — a "safe" facility where informants, former cops, ex-gang members, check-ins (prisoners who intentionally put themselves in solitary confinement to be safe), homosexuals, and sex offenders can all, supposedly, walk the Yard freely. At regular BOP lockups, these types of men are in danger of being beaten, stabbed, or strangled to death."[2] The Marshall Project stated "Coleman II did not respond to multiple requests for confirmation". |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: |
The sock thing reminds me of "Bad Boys" and Sean Penn's pillow case of soda cans. |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hPoxee46S4s
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I just watched that scene on telly yesterday. That movie has been on recently on crappy Spectrum. That version they're currently playing has scenes that weren't included even in video versions until the last few years. It took me like 30 years to see them after watching that movie at least 20 times since the 80s. That movie must've had issues with editing and distribution because its official date was 83, but it looks like it was filmed in 79/80ish. Penn looked much younger than he did as Spicoli and Fast Times was filmed in late 81. Bell bottom cuffs and big ass lapels abounded. One of the new scenes had Penn playing his guitar like sh to "Everybody Wants You" by Billy Squire. There was a police lineup scene with Sheedy and Esai Morales that was good, I was curious why they cut it.
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| Good riddance. A fitting end. |
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| He got to see the Sox win another one before he met his maker. |
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| non-player zealot wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | Good riddance. A fitting end. |
Whitey got locked up. |
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Bulger's transfer gives rise to the Mafia having ties to law enforcement. You don't mess with the Mafioso.
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The Whitey Socks strike again. |
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Hope it hurt.
That said, our prison system is an obscenity. |
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What a crazy life he had. The ending is quite fitting.
Also, definitely a set up. He gets killed the day after arriving at a new prison. It shouldn't be that easy to kill someone in prison and get away with it. |
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I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
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| adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
Well in this specific case, he wasn't just any prisoner, so this shouldn't have happened unless someone wanted to or let it happen. |
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| Ted wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
Well in this specific case, he wasn't just any prisoner, so this shouldn't have happened unless someone wanted to or let it happen. |
He was transferred from a facility specifically housed to protect at risk prisoners by keeping similar offenders together. Within a day of being moved to a more generalized prison facility without such provisions and placed in the general population, he was dragged to an area without surveillance cameras.
Highly doubtful that was an accident or a coincidence.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Ted wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
Well in this specific case, he wasn't just any prisoner, so this shouldn't have happened unless someone wanted to or let it happen. |
He was transferred from a facility specifically housed to protect at risk prisoners by keeping similar offenders together. Within a day of being moved to a more generalized prison facility without such provisions and placed in the general population, he was dragged to an area without surveillance cameras.
Highly doubtful that was an accident or a coincidence. |
Yup. I don't give two (bleep) about Whitey Bulger. But if someone let that happen, imagine all the other stuff that goes on there. The US prison system is one big clusterf.
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| Some people just deserve killing and he was one of them. Turn the page. |
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| Ted wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
Well in this specific case, he wasn't just any prisoner, so this shouldn't have happened unless someone wanted to or let it happen. |
How do you make that determination though? Like Bill Cosby, how do you make the determination that ok, it's safe for him to go back to the general population. Or do you just keep him isolated for the entire time?
How does the prison system actually ensure that something like this never happens? Only way is to isolate everyone that might be a "special case" and isolate them for the duration of their life. |
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | Some people just deserve killing and he was one of them. Turn the page. |
Yep. And I have to admit, I am a bit heartened by the fact that he met his demise at the hands of someone else knowing it's his past catching up with him in the ultimate fashion.
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I could care less about Bulger, and he likely deserved what he got as justice for the murders he was involved in decades ago. That said, I strongly believe that if the state is going to take someones freedom, they have an obligation for their food, shelter and safety. It is a large price, but one we have to accept as a civilized society. Although he may have deserved death, it was not the right of those that carried out the sentence to make the decision.....and the prison must make sure they do not have the opportunity.
Again, I do not know much about the prison system on a detailed level....but believe that if we as a society continue to lock people in cages for their crimes, we must incur the large cost to ensure that their basic life needs are met. |
Is that realistic? Only way to ensure safety is to isolate every prisoner from each other. |
No, that's not realistic. In Bullgers case it was being done in a place that housed high risk prisoners, USP Coleman II. I posted about it above.
I'm not one who thinks people should get killed. Our system assesses and delivers punishment. That's the course of a civilized society. If Bulger had gotten the death penalty I could abide. I can't with vigilante justice.
As I posted early on, this looked like a hit, done within our prison system, allowed by those in charge. It was Whitey Bulger so I don't think there will be an investigation into the higher ups I believe involved.
Our penal system in corrupt. This just darkens an already black eye.
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | Some people just deserve killing and he was one of them. Turn the page. |
That’s not justice. That’s whitey Bulger thinking.
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