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Steve007
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| He should improve his performance simply because he will be pitching in the NL at Dodger Stadium instead of at Fenway in the AL. But $25 million is so much money for a guy that is not even good. |
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Steve007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | srm90 wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | srm90 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | If the Dbags are selling, any chance we can bring Greinke back? |
I think as long as Puig is on the team, Greinke has no interest in playing here again. |
What happened between the two? |
It's just speculation on my part but there were reports that Greinke had grown to despise Puig during his time here. I wouldn't be able to link/cite any sources on that though. |
It was from "The Best Team Money Can Buy".
https://www.sbnation.com/2015/7/13/8929067/what-the-best-team-money-can-buy-reveals-about-baseball-chemistry |
There's an article out that Puig is unhappy with his playing time and wants out. Maybe Greinke will come here then.
Buehler
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Ryu
That's a solid 1-4. |
I’ve always missed Greinke since he left. Lol at that contract he got though. Can’t really blame him for leaving if someone was going to massively overpay him like that. He had his best year as a Dodger in a contract year and Arizona never got THAT type of performance from him.
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Nevermind that the Red Sox pitcher who probably would've helped our pitching rotation was Nathan Eovaldi..... |
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Snipes
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| I like the joe Kelly signing as well. They guy is fiesta and has really good stuff, also still in his prime age-wise. |
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ribeye
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him.
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| ribeye wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him. |
He's a totally different pitcher from when he first came into the league. He will excel playing for the Dodgers. Could be wrong. |
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YSong
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| Snipes wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him. |
He's a totally different pitcher from when he first came into the league. He will excel playing for the Dodgers. Could be wrong. |
I would agree with you. I think he has closer material. |
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ribeye
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| Snipes wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him. |
He's a totally different pitcher from when he first came into the league. He will excel playing for the Dodgers. Could be wrong. |
I'm not sure about that. Last year, he had an ERA+ of 100, EXACTLY average. Now, I do see that his opponent's away batting OPS+ was 121 (with 100 being average), while, home, was 72, but his away (that excludes Fenway) ERA was 4.91 (no ERA+ splits), with a WHIP of 1.473. I'm still a long way from being exited
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| In typical Dodger fashion, I expect the best Kelly we will ever see is the one that pitched against us this past WS. |
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Steve007
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| Snipes wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him. |
He's a totally different pitcher from when he first came into the league. He will excel playing for the Dodgers. Could be wrong. |
Last season was not one of his better seasons though. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Not only is Joe Kelly really really good..he's def capable of being the best reliever in the game. You heard it here first. Great signing by the Dodgers. |
How is a lifetime ERA+ of 106, really good. I'd say he is really average--at best, he is really on the high side of average. Now he has had two really good seasons, out of seven, so he can be really good. It's just that the odds are against him. |
He's a totally different pitcher from when he first came into the league. He will excel playing for the Dodgers. Could be wrong. |
Last season was not one of his better seasons though. |
If he's not walking people and staying ahead in counts, he's lethal. That's what happened in the postseason, and he was even able to throw his slider for strikes. But he's had control problems for much of his career. |
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Xmas gift to the LA fans of both Harper and Anthony "Unibrow" Davis. Good times ahead in 2019.  |
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ribeye
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Interesting:
| Quote: | Keibert Ruiz, C, Dodgers' No. 2
As MLB Pipeline's No. 39 overall prospect, Ruiz is perhaps the most notable name on this list. He proved to be a highly advanced hitter as a 19-year-old in Double-A last season, slashing .268/.328/.401 with 12 homers over 101 games. Hitting from a pronounced crouch, Ruiz is adept at using his lower half and quick bat to drive the baseball, and nearly half (49 percent, to be exact) of his contact was either a line drive or fly ball in 2018. Of course, that means Ruiz also had a high ground-ball rate (44.7 percent). However, given his present strengths as a hitter at such a young age, along with fact that he makes a lot of contact, there's reason to believe Ruiz will be an even more impactful hitter, hitting for both average and power, as he learns to elevate the ball more consistently. |
https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/news/stats-say-these-prospects-will-improve-in-2019/c-301972294
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| LonzoLegend2 wrote: | | Xmas gift to the LA fans of both Harper and Anthony "Unibrow" Davis. Good times ahead in 2019. |
if this happens i will celebrate Feastivus as well. |
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I really hope the Dodgers get this done. |
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| ribeye wrote: | Interesting:
| Quote: | Keibert Ruiz, C, Dodgers' No. 2
As MLB Pipeline's No. 39 overall prospect, Ruiz is perhaps the most notable name on this list. He proved to be a highly advanced hitter as a 19-year-old in Double-A last season, slashing .268/.328/.401 with 12 homers over 101 games. Hitting from a pronounced crouch, Ruiz is adept at using his lower half and quick bat to drive the baseball, and nearly half (49 percent, to be exact) of his contact was either a line drive or fly ball in 2018. Of course, that means Ruiz also had a high ground-ball rate (44.7 percent). However, given his present strengths as a hitter at such a young age, along with fact that he makes a lot of contact, there's reason to believe Ruiz will be an even more impactful hitter, hitting for both average and power, as he learns to elevate the ball more consistently. |
https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/news/stats-say-these-prospects-will-improve-in-2019/c-301972294 |
Could be Carlos Santana at least we won’t dump him for Casey Blake this time! |
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My Red Sox fan buddy proposes this trade. David Price and Jackie Bradley Jr. for Yasiel Puig and Kenley Janson. Would you do it? Yeah it's a slow off season.
BTW I would rather take a chance on AJ Pollock on a bargain deal than breaking the bank on Bryce Harper. |
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | My Red Sox fan buddy proposes this trade. David Price and Jackie Bradley Jr. for Yasiel Puig and Kenley Janson. Would you do it? Yeah it's a slow off season.
BTW I would rather take a chance on AJ Pollock on a bargain deal than breaking the bank on Bryce Harper. |
Ewww no to that proposal from the Sox. As for Pollock, yeah he's more consistent version of Joç but he's old, 32 and injury riddled in recent seasons. If no branking the bank for Harper and we can dump some surplus OF'ers than why not if the money and years is fair.
Cardinals are now the most talented team in the NL, hope we don't get shut out with merely Joe Kelly as our only "prize". |
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That's why I said I wasn't happy that Goldschmidt was traded to St. Louis. Many Dodger fans were happy that he left the division. Not I, because Arizona was always looking to rebuild this offseason and wouldn't be a threat. Now the Cards have Goldy and now, apparently, Andrew Miller. If he rebounds, yeah, they got a lot better.
ribeye, I couldn't help but to facetiously think to myself that the Dodgers will probably get rid of Ruiz because he makes too much contact.  |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | ^
ribeye, I couldn't help but to facetiously think to myself that the Dodgers will probably get rid of Ruiz because he makes too much contact. |
Or they will "correct" the "flaw".
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Puig traded with Kemp and Wood to Reds.
Get back Homer (i believe they will DFA him) and 2 other nobodies.
Hello Harper soon? |
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| Seems like a money move. I guess they are going after a big name free agent. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Trading Puig, Kemp, and Wood sure makes it sound like we are going all in Bryce Harper. |
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ribeye
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | Puig traded with Kemp and Wood to Reds.
Get back Homer (i believe they will DFA him) and 2 other nobodies.
Hello Harper soon? |
Somebody needs to explain this trade to me. I get the salary dumping here--though it seems more like mostly a salary swap--but are you telling me, this is all they could for Puig and Wood?
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