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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Andrew Friedman said he signed AJ Pollock to be an everyday centerfielder to provide right-handed balance to the lineup and downplayed Pollock’s injury history.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:34 am    Post subject:

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Andrew Friedman said he signed AJ Pollock to be an everyday centerfielder to provide right-handed balance to the lineup and downplayed Pollock’s injury history.


I am luke-warm on this signing, a little more pro than con. If Pollock gives the team 500+ ab's for the next three seasons, with his average production, it will be a good (not great) pick up. If he plays like 2015, it will be an awesome pick up and the front office will deserve major props.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Hey, here's and idea. How about the Dodgers trade Ruiz, Puig, and Woods, for Realmudo? That is 4.0 WAR, PLUS their number one prospect (just barely 2 if you still count Verdugo) for a guy with a WAR of 4.3. Sounds pretty good, and way more than fair . . .

. . . unfortunately, they don't have a way-back machine
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:34 pm    Post subject:

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Hey, here's and idea. How about the Dodgers trade Ruiz, Puig, and Woods, for Realmudo? That is 4.0 WAR, PLUS their number one prospect (just barely 2 if you still count Verdugo) for a guy with a WAR of 4.3. Sounds pretty good, and way more than fair . . .

. . . unfortunately, they don't have a way-back machine


How do you know that wasn't discussed and that Marlins rejected? Remember, Mattingly was not a big fan of Puig.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject:

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Hey, here's and idea. How about the Dodgers trade Ruiz, Puig, and Woods, for Realmudo? That is 4.0 WAR, PLUS their number one prospect (just barely 2 if you still count Verdugo) for a guy with a WAR of 4.3. Sounds pretty good, and way more than fair . . .

. . . unfortunately, they don't have a way-back machine


What value would the Marlins have for Wood and Puig? Plus, Realmuto makes $6.3M while Puig and Wood make $19M or so?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:10 pm    Post subject:

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ribeye wrote:
Hey, here's and idea. How about the Dodgers trade Ruiz, Puig, and Woods, for Realmudo? That is 4.0 WAR, PLUS their number one prospect (just barely 2 if you still count Verdugo) for a guy with a WAR of 4.3. Sounds pretty good, and way more than fair . . .

. . . unfortunately, they don't have a way-back machine


What value would the Marlins have for Wood and Puig? Plus, Realmuto makes $6.3M while Puig and Wood make $19M or so?


Well, this is obviously a bit of snark, but how about Puig would play right field so than Anderson could play 3rd full time, and since Wood had a better ERA (and WAR) than any of their starters, maybe he could squeeze into the rotation.

The real point here is that the Dodgers threw away 4 WAR, and, yes, I'm not on the phone with other clubs, but I can't believe that there was no value in these two.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject:

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ribeye wrote:
Hey, here's and idea. How about the Dodgers trade Ruiz, Puig, and Woods, for Realmudo? That is 4.0 WAR, PLUS their number one prospect (just barely 2 if you still count Verdugo) for a guy with a WAR of 4.3. Sounds pretty good, and way more than fair . . .

. . . unfortunately, they don't have a way-back machine


What value would the Marlins have for Wood and Puig? Plus, Realmuto makes $6.3M while Puig and Wood make $19M or so?


Well, this is obviously a bit of snark, but how about Puig would play right field so than Anderson could play 3rd full time, and since Wood had a better ERA (and WAR) than any of their starters, maybe he could squeeze into the rotation.


I mean I don't think the Marlins are trying to win nor are they trying to spend any money
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject:

Network ranks Belli No. 2 CF, Pollock No. 7 CF

And Harper the No. 5 right fielder. Cracks me up. No wonder no one wants to shell out $400M for him--the fifth best (as ranked here) right fielder.

https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/news/mlb-network-2019-best-players-at-each-position/c-264680678
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

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Machado to the Padres? If so, seems like that will end well for both parties.


The market for Machado and Harper is soft because of the length of the contracts. No franchise wants to potentially cripple their future and have it blow up in their face.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject:

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Machado to the Padres? If so, seems like that will end well for both parties.


The market for Machado and Harper is soft because of the length of the contracts. No franchise wants to potentially cripple their future and have it blow up in their face.


That Pujols deal really changed the market for long term contracts, huh?
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Lamar's Bud wrote:
Machado to the Padres? If so, seems like that will end well for both parties.


The market for Machado and Harper is soft because of the length of the contracts. No franchise wants to potentially cripple their future and have it blow up in their face.


That Pujols deal really changed the market for long term contracts, huh?


Pujols deal was down right stupid. he was on the wrong side of 30 and had a sub-par season leading up to the signing if i remember correctly. Harper and Machado are not getting ridiculous offers because of their plays are just don't justify.
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loslakersss wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Lamar's Bud wrote:
Machado to the Padres? If so, seems like that will end well for both parties.


The market for Machado and Harper is soft because of the length of the contracts. No franchise wants to potentially cripple their future and have it blow up in their face.


That Pujols deal really changed the market for long term contracts, huh?


Pujols deal was down right stupid. he was on the wrong side of 30 and had a sub-par season leading up to the signing if i remember correctly. Harper and Machado are not getting ridiculous offers because of their plays are just don't justify.


Magic said he wished the Dodger sale would have been approved sooner. He would have been the first one knocking on Pujols' door.

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Johnson indicated he would try to build the Dodgers in the mold of his star-driven Lakers teams. Johnson said he would recruit prominent players, joking that he would have been knocking at the door of St. Louis Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols "at 12:01 a.m. on the first day of free agency."
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:20 pm    Post subject:

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Magic said he wished the Dodger sale would have been approved sooner. He would have been the first one knocking on Pujols' door.

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Johnson indicated he would try to build the Dodgers in the mold of his star-driven Lakers teams. Johnson said he would recruit prominent players, joking that he would have been knocking at the door of St. Louis Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols "at 12:01 a.m. on the first day of free agency."


Hopefully Magic would have thought it worked like the NBA, where you can only give four-year deals to other teams' free agents.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:40 pm    Post subject:

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Magic said he wished the Dodger sale would have been approved sooner. He would have been the first one knocking on Pujols' door.

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Johnson indicated he would try to build the Dodgers in the mold of his star-driven Lakers teams. Johnson said he would recruit prominent players, joking that he would have been knocking at the door of St. Louis Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols "at 12:01 a.m. on the first day of free agency."


Hopefully Magic would have thought it worked like the NBA, where you can only give four-year deals to other teams' free agents.


And, hopefully, LeBron will wear better than Pujols. So far, mostly so good: While his production is just about as good as can be expected, he has already missed more games than in any other season of his career.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:09 pm    Post subject:

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Network ranks Belli No. 2 CF, Pollock No. 7 CF

And Harper the No. 5 right fielder. Cracks me up. No wonder no one wants to shell out $400M for him--the fifth best (as ranked here) right fielder.

https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/news/mlb-network-2019-best-players-at-each-position/c-264680678


So, the ranking per position:

Catcher

1. Buster Posey
2. J.T. Realmuto
3. Yasmani Grandal
4. Gary Sanchez
5. Willson Contreras
6. Yadier Molina
7. Kurt Suzuki
8. Wilson Ramos
9. Mike Zunino
10. Salvador Perez

Pitcher

1. Max Scherzer
2. Chris Sale
3. Jacob deGrom
4. Corey Kluber
5. Justin Verlander
6. Aaron Nola
7. Clayton Kershaw--not too bad for someone as washed up as some would have it
8. Luis Severino
9. Carlos Carrasco
10. Blake Snell

Bullpen

Still a-coming--Kenley should be top 3 or so.

First Base

1. Paul Goldschmidt
2. Freddie Freeman
3. Joey Votto
4. Max Muncy
5. Anthony Rizzo
6. Matt Olson
7. Justin Smoak
8. Jesus Aguilar
9. Rhys Hoskins
10. Jose Abreu

Second Base

1. Jose Altuve
2. Jed Lowrie
3. Whit Merrifield
4. Robinson Cano
5. Chris Taylor--but then there is also Kiké
6. Scooter Gennett
7. Joey Wendle
8. Gleyber Torres
9. Ben Zobrist
10. DJ LeMahieu

Third Base

1. Jose Ramirez
2. Justin Turner
3. Nolan Arenado
4. Anthony Rendon
5. Alex Bregman
6. Matt Carpenter
7. Matt Chapman
8. Kris Bryant
9. Josh Donaldson
10. Eugenio Suarez

Shortstop

Still a-coming--Seager should be top 5, no later than 6

Left Field

1. J.D. Martinez
2. Giancarlo Stanton
3. Ronald Acuna Jr.
4. Tommy Pham
5. Justin Upton
6. Juan Soto
7. Marcell Ozuna
8. Michael Conforto
9. Khris Davis
10. David Peralta

Center Field

1. Mike Trout
2. Cody Bellinger
3. Lorenzo Cain
4. Aaron Hicks
5. George Springer
6. Charlie Blackmon
7. A.J. Pollock
8. Starling Marte
9. Harrison Bader
10. Kevin Kiermaier

Right Field

1. Aaron Judge
2. Mookie Betts
3. Christian Yelich
4. Mitch Haniger
5. Bryce Harper
6. Brandon Nimmo
7. Yasiel Puig
8. Andrew McCutchen
9. Nicholas Castellanos
10. Stephen Piscotty
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject:

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Third Base

1. Jose Ramirez
2. Justin Turner
3. Nolan Arenado
4. Anthony Rendon
5. Alex Bregman
6. Matt Carpenter
7. Matt Chapman
8. Kris Bryant
9. Josh Donaldson
10. Eugenio Suarez



This one seems a bit out of order. Turner over Arenado and Bregman?

Matt Chapman at 7th?
Kris Bryant 8th?

This position is pretty stacked though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject:

Five year totals. Allow for the five year totals to calculate:

Turner:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/turneju01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_standard

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/turneju01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_value

Arenado

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arenano01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_standard

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arenano01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_value

Though Turner has the better OPS+, Arenado has the better war. So, you make a good argument.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject:

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Five year totals. Allow for the five year totals to calculate:

Turner:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/turneju01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_standard

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/turneju01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_value

Arenado

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arenano01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_standard

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arenano01.shtml#2014-2018-sum:batting_value

Though Turner has the better OPS+, Arenado has the better war. So, you make a good argument.


Yeah, they call it "Top 10 Right Now!" and based it off of the last 2 seasons. Turner did have a monster 2017 season so I can see him being up high. But Arenado's been a monster for the last 2 seasons plus he's played in 92 more games (53 + 29). Offensively, I can see an argument but not defensively.

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"The five-week program hosted by Brian Kenny used rankings based on player performance over the last two seasons, a number of offensive and defensive metrics, both advanced data and traditional numbers and analysis by the MLB Network research team."
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject:

Coroner: Fan struck in head by foul ball during Dodgers game died of blunt force injury

A California woman died in August as a result of being hit in the head by a batted ball at Dodger Stadium, according to a Los Angeles County coroner's report obtained by ESPN's "Outside the Lines" and details her daughter revealed to OTL in December.

Linda Goldbloom, a mother of three and grandmother of seven, died on Aug. 29. The coroner's report states the cause as "acute intracranial hemorrhage due to history of blunt force trauma" and states that the injury occurred when she was struck in the head with a baseball during the Aug. 25 game at Dodger Stadium.

Television coverage of the Padres-Dodgers game that night did not follow the flight of the ball or show where it ended up. No media outlet has reported what happened, but Goldbloom's family didn't keep it a secret and included this sentence in e-mail notifications on the day she died:

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"While the end came suddenly by a foul ball at Dodgers (sic) Stadium, she had a long beautiful and blessed life."


The accident happened in the top of the ninth inning, when San Diego's Franmil Reyes fouled back a 93 mph pitch from Dodgers closer Kenley Jansen. The ball was hit a little to the first-base side of home plate, it sailed into the Loge Level -- just over the area protected by netting -- and it struck Goldbloom's head as she sat in section 106, row C, seat 5.

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"Ushers came down and asked if she was all right, and she said no, then EMT came and rushed her to the hospital -- she threw up in the ambulance," her daughter, Jana Brody, told OTL.


Goldbloom, a longtime Dodger fan, was celebrating her recent 79th birthday and 59th wedding anniversary with her husband, Erwin, brother-in-law Michael and sister-in-law Eve.

Brody was 100 miles away and celebrating her own wedding anniversary when she got the news that her mother was going to have emergency brain surgery after midnight at L.A County-USC Medical Center.

For three days, Goldbloom was unresponsive, Brody said, except when a nurse saw her move one finger one time upon being asked if her name was Linda. Her eyes never opened at the hospital, and a ventilator kept her breathing.

On the night of Aug. 28, Goldbloom's whole family and a rabbi gathered around her to share memories and say goodbye before abiding by her wish that she not be kept alive by machines if doctors deemed it impossible to restore her quality of life.

After Goldbloom died the next morning, the Dodgers made no public comments about her death or what caused it. When OTL contacted the team Monday, more than five months later, a spokesman provided this statement:

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"Mr. and Mrs. Goldbloom were great Dodgers fans who regularly attended games. We were deeply saddened by this tragic accident and the passing of Mrs. Goldbloom. The matter has been resolved between the Dodgers and the Goldbloom family. We cannot comment further on this matter."


Brody told OTL on Monday that she and her family would not comment on any agreement with the Dodgers or possible legal action, but she said she hopes to have a fund established in her mother's memory to assist victims of such accidents and their families.

In Major League Baseball's 150-year history, there were two previous reported instances of fans dying after being struck in the stands by balls that left the field of play, including one nearly half a century ago on a foul at Dodger Stadium:

Clarence Stagemyer, 32, died one day after he was hit in the head by a thrown ball on Sept. 29, 1943, at Griffith Stadium in Washington. Senators third-baseman Sherry Robertson fielded a grounder hit by Cleveland's Ken Keltner and threw it over the head of first baseman Mickey Vernon, and the ball struck Stagemyer in the first row of the stands.

Alan Fish, 14, died four days after he was hit in the head by a foul ball on May 16, 1970, at Dodger Stadium. L.A.'s Manny Mota was batting against San Francisco's Gaylord Perry when he hit a liner down the first-base line, near the dugout, that struck Fish two rows from the field.

The fatal injury to Goldbloom came during the first season in which all 30 major league teams had protective netting extending from behind home plate to at least the far ends of both dugouts to safeguard especially vulnerable sections of stadiums' lower bowls. MLB didn't mandate such extensions but had issued recommendations.

Several teams that hadn't already announced plans for increased netting in 2018, including the Dodgers, did so after a young girl, seated on her grandfather's lap behind the third-base dugout, suffered life-threatening injuries from a foul line drive that left the bat at 105 mph and hit her in the face on Sept. 20, 2017, at Yankee Stadium.

After the Yankees and other teams installed more extensive netting for last season, Geoff Jacobson, the father of the recovering toddler, told ESPN, "Sadly, it often takes great tragedy and suffering to cause change." He said he hoped his daughter would eventually write a college application essay about "how she was the last person to be seriously hurt at a baseball game."

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"My heart goes out to the whole family," Jacobson said after OTL told him what happened to Goldbloom. "It's so unnecessary that this had to happen. ... It's just tragic that another family is going through this and lost a loved one."


MLB has historically relied on the century-old "Baseball Rule" to deter and defend against claims of injuries in the crowd from the impact of baseballs and thrown or broken bats. It says on the back of tickets that fans assume the risks incidental to games when they enter ballparks, and courts of law have generally held that as long as teams provide warnings and install netting in the areas of greatest danger, MLB has lived up to its responsibility.

As MLB teams have put in the netting extensions, some fans who've endured serious injuries in ballpark episodes over the years have said it's not enough and that spring training, minor league and college parks are not keeping pace and are even more dangerous.

Brody said she hopes her mother's death will spark serious consideration of further increases in protection, perhaps using Japan's more extensively netted stadiums as examples, especially in an era of bigger and stronger players, higher velocity and launch-angle projectiles, and more and more distractions for people attending games.

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"I just hope MLB takes a serious look in the mirror and continues to evaluable and improve fan safety," Jacobson said. "It was always questionable whether the nets were extended far enough or high enough, and every stadium has different degrees of protections."


He suggested that the nets go all the way to the foul pole, as in Japanese ballparks. "Why did they stop where they stopped?" he said. "It seems arbitrary."

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"I'd love to see the netting extended vertically, and we know it doesn't block the view," Brody said. "Raise it a little higher -- what's the hurt in that?"


Unlike some modern fans, whose smartphones can be dangerous diversions when the ball is in play, Goldbloom had only a flip phone that she wasn't using then and hardly ever took out, Brody said. The ball ricocheted off her mother's head and struck her uncle in the stomach, but he wasn't injured.


Her parents, Brody said, had the same seats for about 10 games each of the past 10 years under partial season-ticket plans, and in the preceding decade, they attended about the same number of games in a different set of seats.

Erwin Goldbloom turned down his chance at Dodgers postseason tickets and didn't renew for 2019 but will consider attending single games in seating that is "somewhere safe" -- meaning where there's netting -- Brody said.

Linda Goldbloom, described by Brody as a "true fan," was buried about 10 miles from Dodger Stadium.

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"My mom went to the game and never came home," Brody said. "People need to be aware, and we'd really like them to be protected in the future."


Nicole Noren of the ESPN Enterprise Unit contributed to this report.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject:

I have the pleasure of watching Arenado several times a year, and the guy is flat out amazing. I love JT, but I'd be ecstatic if we get the opportunity to sign Nolan next offseason. He's a wizard with the glove and super clutch with the bat with men on base.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject:

Realmuto to Phillies.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25945823/phillies-acquire-catcher-jt-realmuto-marlins
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Yet again a team demands way more from the Dodgers and ends up settling for inferior prospects from another team. You'd think some of these GMs would get fired eventually.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:30 pm    Post subject:

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Realmuto to Phillies.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25945823/phillies-acquire-catcher-jt-realmuto-marlins


Are we ever going to get any good news in the forums again?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject:

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Yet again a team demands way more from the Dodgers and ends up settling for inferior prospects from another team. You'd think some of these GMs would get fired eventually.


very frustrating.
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Yet again a team demands way more from the Dodgers and ends up settling for inferior prospects from another team. You'd think some of these GMs would get fired eventually.


all teams in LA are being treated like suckers by other teams in their respective sports.
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