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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:57 am    Post subject:

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all these managers being fired does nothing to me. i'm still pissed it happened to the Dodgers. there's no way to turn back the clock to undo all these. the only thing MLB should do right now to restore order and trust in the game of baseball is give Astros two options: 1. voluntarily give up the 2017 title, or 2. not playing the entire upcoming season. preferably both.


It happened to many teams, not just the Dodgers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:42 am    Post subject:

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all these managers being fired does nothing to me. i'm still pissed it happened to the Dodgers. there's no way to turn back the clock to undo all these. the only thing MLB should do right now to restore order and trust in the game of baseball is give Astros two options: 1. voluntarily give up the 2017 title, or 2. not playing the entire upcoming season. preferably both.


It happened to many teams, not just the Dodgers.


While that is true it is also true that the Dodgers and Yankees are the teams that were affected the most.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:32 pm    Post subject:

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all these managers being fired does nothing to me. i'm still pissed it happened to the Dodgers. there's no way to turn back the clock to undo all these. the only thing MLB should do right now to restore order and trust in the game of baseball is give Astros two options: 1. voluntarily give up the 2017 title, or 2. not playing the entire upcoming season. preferably both.


It happened to many teams, not just the Dodgers.


Nope only the Dodgers lost the World Series to those cheaters. The Dodgers still haven’t won it all since 1988 so Dodger fans got punished WAY more than the Astros ever got punished. I would trade multiple Dodger first round picks for one World Series title. Oh, and I would trade Dave Roberts for a title too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:59 pm    Post subject:

Like I had stated before, how far back does it go with Luhnow? The guy has been at the center of 2 huge controversies that were made public. Who knows what else the guy did during his previous tenures. Kershaw has been the unlucky recipient of an narrative that he may not have deserved due to his cheating. Could it have occurred during his time with the cardinals, or did he only start it all during the asterisks' run? And if it's the latter, then it's hard to think the ownership never knew about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject:

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SGV-Laker fan wrote:
all these managers being fired does nothing to me. i'm still pissed it happened to the Dodgers. there's no way to turn back the clock to undo all these. the only thing MLB should do right now to restore order and trust in the game of baseball is give Astros two options: 1. voluntarily give up the 2017 title, or 2. not playing the entire upcoming season. preferably both.


It happened to many teams, not just the Dodgers.


Nope only the Dodgers lost the World Series to those cheaters. The Dodgers still haven’t won it all since 1988 so Dodger fans got punished WAY more than the Astros ever got punished. I would trade multiple Dodger first round picks for one World Series title. Oh, and I would trade Dave Roberts for a title too.


Not to mention the Astro's players got a $11M bonus (total) for winning the WS.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:35 pm    Post subject:

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Like I had stated before, how far back does it go with Luhnow? The guy has been at the center of 2 huge controversies that were made public. Who knows what else the guy did during his previous tenures. Kershaw has been the unlucky recipient of an narrative that he may not have deserved due to his cheating. Could it have occurred during his time with the cardinals, or did he only start it all during the asterisks' run? And if it's the latter, then it's hard to think the ownership never knew about it.


Cardinals and the Patroits, two supposedly class organizations are both big time cheaters. as a Dodger and Raider fan, i despise both team deeply.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Great article: Astros’ lack of remorse for cheating is an affront to Dodgers.

https://tinyurl.com/uoxq25n

Nice job Plaschke.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:52 am    Post subject:

Surfitall wrote:
Great article: Astros’ lack of remorse for cheating is an affront to Dodgers.

https://tinyurl.com/uoxq25n

Nice job Plaschke.


Ugh, wish I hadn't read that article. Are they on the schedule next season?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:32 pm    Post subject:

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Great article: Astros’ lack of remorse for cheating is an affront to Dodgers.

https://tinyurl.com/uoxq25n

Nice job Plaschke.


Ugh, wish I hadn't read that article. Are they on the schedule next season?


Nope. The Angels are going to get some tickets out of me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:28 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Surfitall wrote:
Great article: Astros’ lack of remorse for cheating is an affront to Dodgers.

https://tinyurl.com/uoxq25n

Nice job Plaschke.


Ugh, wish I hadn't read that article. Are they on the schedule next season?


Nope. The Angels are going to get some tickets out of me.


Yup, I'll be making a visit to Safeco Field up here in Seattle the last weekend of April
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:35 pm    Post subject:

Baseball America Top 100 2020 released. Dodgers have 7 prospects this year. Ruiz took a major dip from last year though.

4) Gavin Lux
20) Dustin May
81) Keibert Ruiz
82) Tony Gonsolin
84) Josiah Gray
86) Jeter Downs
97) Diego Cartaya


Jo Adell, Angels (3rd) ranked higher than Gavin Lux (4th)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Rumors of Mookie Betts to Padres for Will Myers.

Padres are building a formidable team if this happens.

Betts, Tatis, Machado.

That’s a powerful lineup

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Recent talks between the teams have focused on sending a significant amount of prospect talent and outfielder Wil Myers to Boston, according to sources. Multiple people familiar with the discussions characterized an agreement as unlikely, and the industry consensus is that Betts will be in a Red Sox uniform on Opening Day. Yet both sides appear to have legitimate interest.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:17 am    Post subject:

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Ryu has become a much better pitcher the last couple of seasons. I do worry about his durability, but are the young guys going to compete with this list of names next season? If Urias performs at an elite level like this I’ll be shocked.

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Rank Pitcher Combined 2018-19 ERA
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Jacob deGrom
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Hyun-Jin Ryu
2.21

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Justin Verlander
2.55
4.
Gerrit Cole
2.68
5.
Max Scherzer
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Chances are Ryu won't be performing like this again this season. I don't think we're looking for anyone to replace what Ryu gave us last year.

We're just hoping that the dropoff is not that significant.


I’m sure that’s true. In the American League facing the lineups in that division I expect him to perform worse. And he was so comfortable at Dodger Stadium. He was a different pitcher these last 2 seasons so I really do think he reached an elite level.

I’m not expecting any major additions to the starting rotation in a trade. The team didn’t even add to the bullpen last season (although that turned out to be a good thing because the guy many of us wanted had a major problem we were unaware of). And the teams that make the most trades can make me nervous because they end up making some really bad deals.


Ryu faltering badly at the end of the season gave them cause for concern.

Also, he hasn't pitched well in the playoffs these last 2 years:

2018 Playoffs:
Game 1 vs. Atl - 7ip, 0 runs, 8 k
Game 2 vs. Mil - 4.1ip, 2 runs, 4 k
Game 6 vs. Mil - 3.0ip, 5 runs, 3 k
Game 2 vs. Bos - 4.2ip, 4 runs, 5 k

2019 Playoffs -
Game 3 vs. Was - 5ip, 2 runs, 3 k

Total for 5 playoff starts last 2 years for Ryu:
5 starts, 24ip, 13 runs, 23 k
average per start: 4.8 ip, 4.6 k , 4.88 ERA

Take away that great game 1 vs. Atlanta and here are his numbers:

Total for last 4 playoff starts:
4 starts, 17ip, 13 runs, 15 k
average per start: 4.3 ip, 3.8 k , 6.88 ERA


So, seems like we'll miss regular season Ryu more than we'll miss post season Ryu. And it's the playoffs that we are concerned about, not the regular season.


Actually I think a case can be made for Ryu coming up big in the postseason. I think if you’re going to take away one of his starts, taking away the start against the Red Sox makes more sense. Didn’t Boston cheat? They were hitting almost every pitcher that postseason.

For an example of how much cheating can affect a pitcher, look at Kershaw in the 2017 World Series.

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So basically the only case against Ryu in the postseason is he struggled against Milwaukee. He came up big against Atlanta and set the tone for that series, he pitched well against Washington in a 1-1 series, and he had a couple of other great starts in the postseason against the Cardinals earlier in his career when he was wasn’t as good of a pitcher. He had a stretch of giving up only 1 run in 20 innings in three postseason starts in a row. And his record in the playoffs is 3-1 when he doesn’t face the Boston cheaters.

I hope the younger pitchers can step it up, but Ryu has shown a lot more in the postseason than they have.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:22 am    Post subject:

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Alex Wood tweeted he'd rather face players that were on steroids than players that knew what pitch was coming. This is growing.


SGV-Laker fan wrote:
all these managers being fired does nothing to me. i'm still pissed it happened to the Dodgers. there's no way to turn back the clock to undo all these. the only thing MLB should do right now to restore order and trust in the game of baseball is give Astros two options: 1. voluntarily give up the 2017 title, or 2. not playing the entire upcoming season. preferably both.


Imagine a scenario with that Dodgers team cheating and the Astros playing by the rules. Completely different series. How many games does that Dodger team win in the regular season?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:33 am    Post subject:

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[Sidebar] Given the events of the last 48 hourrs,

My hatred from seeing them lose to nationals 3 months ago is gone. Because after all the 2017/18 WS losses werent in vain and now we know the Dodgers played an A effort both times and their losses werent something they controlled, but new decade new hope i guess.


I definitely have more respect for the 2017 and 2018 teams. And even the 2019 team after seeing how well Washington played in the later rounds of the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:53 pm    Post subject:

I think it eases the pin, knowing our pitchers got rocked by a team flagrantly violating the rules.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:04 pm    Post subject:

On the heels of Buster Olney rating the likelihood of the Dodgers getting Mookie Betts an "8.5" earlier today, this guy is a Houston radio host...


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Reportedly Boston offered Betts a 10yr $300M deal but were rebuffed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:52 am    Post subject:

Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:15 am    Post subject:

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Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


I love Joc but whatever steps we take to get away from platooning im all for.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:29 am    Post subject:

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Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


I love Joc but whatever steps we take to get away from platooning im all for.


Love Joc as well but didn't he rebuff the Dodgers qualifying offer or something so he's due for a significant pay-raise next year?

Plus the fact that he's basically a platoon-only player here and there's a significant logjam in the OF.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Joc, Verdugo and a prospect involved.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:49 pm    Post subject:

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Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


ESPN says Dustin May, Verdugo, other young prospects.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:56 pm    Post subject:

can't believe Betts is only 27 years old, i thought he'd be entering his 30s by now. good get if we do get him, he's not as overrated as Bryce Harper that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:56 pm    Post subject:

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Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


ESPN says Dustin May, Verdugo, other young prospects.


I say do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:10 pm    Post subject:

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h2omike wrote:
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Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


ESPN says Dustin May, Verdugo, other young prospects.


I say do it.


me too, only untouchables are buhler, belly, maybe max muncy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:20 am    Post subject:

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loslakersss wrote:
h2omike wrote:
loslakersss wrote:
Who do you think is included in a package for Mookie? I don't want to see Joc go.


ESPN says Dustin May, Verdugo, other young prospects.


I say do it.


me too, only untouchables are buhler, belly, maybe max muncy.


I'm not trying to be contrary here, but it sounds like he would be just a one year rental; therefore a big gamble. To give up, at least, four players, at least two of which are solid prospects, sounds like too much.
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