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| You never hear anything about people associated with the Nets hating Russell, so I wonder how much of that was the Lakers and LA media. |
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D'Lo was a combination of Ingram and Kuz in that he was a #2 pick (BI) with swagger (Kuz). He was the type to heat check himself often, like Kuz, and of course our beloved Kobe, which we've been looking for in our next Laker great. Not surprised to see him succeed elsewhere as he was always skilled - just immature (SwaggyP snitch) and a casually of circumstance (we had to unload Moz for max deal + free up PG minutes for Zo).
Aside from B Scott, seems that Magic and B Shaw really didn't like him either (Magic stating publicly that he isn't a leader and B Shaw getting caught bad mouthing Dlo TMZ style). |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Practice wrote: | | You never hear anything about people associated with the Nets hating Russell, so I wonder how much of that was the Lakers and LA media. |
Dlo was a little standoffish with the media, so when Byron decided to scapegoat him, it did t take much urging to get the media to sell it.
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The Lebrons
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| I always liked him, was just waiting for his efficiency to go up. Finally getting into the high 30s on his 3pt%. |
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| Practice wrote: | | You never hear anything about people associated with the Nets hating Russell, so I wonder how much of that was the Lakers and LA media. |
He had a little bit of a ‘tude every now and then but his whole “reputation” was so overblown especially post Nick Young
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | You never hear anything about people associated with the Nets hating Russell, so I wonder how much of that was the Lakers and LA media. |
He had a little bit of a ‘tude every now and then but his whole “reputation” was so overblown especially post Nick Young |
I think he was mostly overwhelmed and fronting to cover for it.
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | My bad for underrating him |
Yo, you mad sold a lot of fans on his game since the draft. You were right since day 1. #wemissthevids
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | My bad for underrating him |
Yo, you mad sold a lot of fans on his game since the draft. You were right since day 1. #wemissthevids |
Yeah I miss him analyzing and breaking down DLo lol, need to tap in that alter ego, DLoFilmRoom  |
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GT told us all. Shame so many were biased against him. A lot of fans questioned him from day 1 'cos media had themconvinced Okafor is the real deal and Lakers are taking him before Ding broke DLo news on draft day. Even Young issue, SAS said later that he didn't leak it. It was some dumb mistake which someone used to make money.
https://twitter.com/LFRMBT/status/1087476883271368704?s=19
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| Glad he's doing well, Kuz looking good here and there too. It's a wash |
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| the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season.
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| saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
Yeesh.
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
Yeesh. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
Lakers could've given the Warriors a little run for their money this season with Lebron, PG, DLo, Zo, Kuz, Randle, Zu, and a few small FA signings tbh.
It's all water under the bridge at this point though..
Outside of GS who had so much gifted to them, you could basically go through every team and find player personnel mistakes, bad drafting, bad trades, holding on to prospects too long/not long enough, bad contracts, etc.. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | Glad he's doing well, Kuz looking good here and there too. It's a wash |
They didn't need to trade Russell to get Kuzma. |
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
Yeesh. |
As long as we still have Zubac |
Another Mitch gem.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
so wait... you're telling me we could have had this?
Randle
Lebron
George
D'Angelo
Lonzo
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| Omar Little wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | You never hear anything about people associated with the Nets hating Russell, so I wonder how much of that was the Lakers and LA media. |
He had a little bit of a ‘tude every now and then but his whole “reputation” was so overblown especially post Nick Young |
I think he was mostly overwhelmed and fronting to cover for it. |
Watching those post game interviews he seemed to be the one who gave thoughtful answers, not the cliches we get from most players. I appreciated that.
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| KobeDunk wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
And if you believe Woj, could have had George for Ingram. |
so wait... you're telling me we could have had this?
Randle
Lebron
George
D'Angelo
Lonzo
?????????????? |
That was truly my dream scenario. A team I would have been excited about.
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| saetarubia wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | the letting go of Randle for nothing was the top of the top as far as bone head moves. But trading D'Angelo was also a horrible move. Don't let the hype of getting Kuzma fool you. Kuz was the 27th pick, I'm sure we could have found a way to get that pick some other way. This was purely to create space for Lonzo, which drafting him was another horrible decision and of course because Magic had his boy Byron's back who D'Angelo called a horrible coach. |
Nets didn't have Kuz on their draft board so Kuz would have been available at #28. Even otherwise, Lakers could have moved up a spot to draft Kuz without giving up a #2 player. And we didn't get a 2nd max FA this summer. Nets got rid of Moz for fairly cheap in 2018. Lakers could have had LeBron, Lonzo, DLO, Ingram, Kuz and Randle this season. |
So many good points:
1) The bottom of the draft is a crapshoot unlike the top of the draft. The difference between 27 and 28 is miniscule. We would have gotten Kuz anyway or could have moved up much cheaper.
2) Moving Moz and Deng were easier this year, and we didnt get a 2nd Max guy last summer.
3) Real reason DLO was moved was the Showtime Cartel. They didnt like his him personally plus he was a Jim/Mitch pick. The same went for Randle whereas Ingram was the coonsensus number 2.
Also, as it turned out, if we were getting a 2nd max, DLO and Randle would have been able to fetch us more. In fact, they would have made a AD trade much more doable.
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| Time to take a break from being a fan of this team, just can't get behind what the Maginka-led FO has been trying to sell. |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Glad he's doing well, Kuz looking good here and there too. It's a wash |
They didn't need to trade Russell to get Kuzma. |
Is there any regret within the organization about the Russell situation? Is it a topic of conversation? |
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