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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

Also, young guys do tend to get better with time.
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

Also, young guys do tend to get better with time.


I was addressing the notion that many of the same people who now think keeping DLO/Jules would be a good thing may have felt the opposite when they were actually here.

Ironically, you add DLO and Lonzo's skills together and you have an all star PG.

Add Jules's physicality and tenaciousness into BI and you've got a pretty awesome forward.

We've drafted players who were not as well rounded it seems and 2 way players.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


That’s a cop out. The new regime clearly did not value Russell and Randle. Russell was gone as soon as the new regime came in. They don’t hide anything with how they speak. The only guy they had high praise for was Ingram.

However, it turned out well for us. We got Lebron, and I’m sure we’ll get someone else (probably AD with the Rich Paul tie). That isn’t too shabby in my mind.

I hope he finds a home in Brooklyn. It’s a great organization. People will see that soon.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
MJST wrote:
The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


That’s a cop out. The new regime clearly did not value Russell and Randle. Russell was gone as soon as the new regime came in. They don’t hide anything with how they speak. The only guy they had high praise for was Ingram.

However, it turned out well for us. We got Lebron, and I’m sure we’ll get someone else (probably AD with the Rich Paul tie). That isn’t too shabby in my mind.

I hope he finds a home in Brooklyn. It’s a great organization. People will see that soon.


It really isn't a cop out.

They didn't just trade DLO for the heck of it. They attached Moz to him, which was a huge move for the Lakers. Goes to show you though how costly it was to get rid of Moz. If you can't get rid of Moz, you can't get 2 max FAs.
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


That’s a cop out. The new regime clearly did not value Russell and Randle. Russell was gone as soon as the new regime came in. They don’t hide anything with how they speak. The only guy they had high praise for was Ingram.

However, it turned out well for us. We got Lebron, and I’m sure we’ll get someone else (probably AD with the Rich Paul tie). That isn’t too shabby in my mind.

I hope he finds a home in Brooklyn. It’s a great organization. People will see that soon.


It really isn't a cop out.

They didn't just trade DLO for the heck of it. They attached Moz to him, which was a huge move for the Lakers. Goes to show you though how costly it was to get rid of Moz. If you can't get rid of Moz, you can't get 2 max FAs.


They never wanted Russell though. He was gone with or without Mozgov.
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22/5/13/2/1 and only 1 turnover. Here are the highlights:

His 1 on 1's with Randle off the switches were awesome.
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.
No question about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject:

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22/5/13/2/1 and only 1 turnover. Here are the highlights:

His 1 on 1's with Randle off the switches were awesome.


So are those snappy angles on his passes while not generating turnovers
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22/5/13/2/1 and only 1 turnover. Here are the highlights:

His 1 on 1's with Randle off the switches were awesome.


So are those snappy angles on his passes while not generating turnovers
His passing abilities this season have been a joy to watch so far. Something we saw glimpses of early on when we had him. His game is really starting to come together.
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22/5/13/2/1 and only 1 turnover. Here are the highlights:

His 1 on 1's with Randle off the switches were awesome.


So are those snappy angles on his passes while not generating turnovers
His passing abilities this season have been a joy to watch so far. Something we saw glimpses of early on when we had him. His game is really starting to come together.


If anyone remembers, his passing highlights at OSU were a real treat to watch:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:49 am    Post subject:

akk7 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
akk7 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
MJST wrote:
The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


That’s a cop out. The new regime clearly did not value Russell and Randle. Russell was gone as soon as the new regime came in. They don’t hide anything with how they speak. The only guy they had high praise for was Ingram.

However, it turned out well for us. We got Lebron, and I’m sure we’ll get someone else (probably AD with the Rich Paul tie). That isn’t too shabby in my mind.

I hope he finds a home in Brooklyn. It’s a great organization. People will see that soon.


It really isn't a cop out.

They didn't just trade DLO for the heck of it. They attached Moz to him, which was a huge move for the Lakers. Goes to show you though how costly it was to get rid of Moz. If you can't get rid of Moz, you can't get 2 max FAs.


They never wanted Russell though. He was gone with or without Mozgov.


But how do you get rid of Moz's deal? That's the point. The Nets thought highly enough about DLO that they gave up a pretty sizeable return (eat Moz's deal, give us Brook/1st rounder).

If Moz's deal didn't exist, safe to say there's a better chance DLO or Jules are still Lakers. But someone worthwhile had to be attached to die for Moz's deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject:

No they didn’t have to, this FO chose to deal DLO with Mozgov. They could have just as easily not dealt them but that was their choice.
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No they didn’t have to, this FO chose to deal DLO with Mozgov. They could have just as easily not dealt them but that was their choice.


Any way you want to characterize it, the Moz/Deng deals were a major impediment to winning and were costly to undo. That was a fire-able offense.
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akk7 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
MJST wrote:
The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


That’s a cop out. The new regime clearly did not value Russell and Randle. Russell was gone as soon as the new regime came in. They don’t hide anything with how they speak. The only guy they had high praise for was Ingram.

However, it turned out well for us. We got Lebron, and I’m sure we’ll get someone else (probably AD with the Rich Paul tie). That isn’t too shabby in my mind.

I hope he finds a home in Brooklyn. It’s a great organization. People will see that soon.


It really isn't a cop out.

They didn't just trade DLO for the heck of it. They attached Moz to him, which was a huge move for the Lakers. Goes to show you though how costly it was to get rid of Moz. If you can't get rid of Moz, you can't get 2 max FAs.


They never wanted Russell though. He was gone with or without Mozgov.


But how do you get rid of Moz's deal? That's the point. The Nets thought highly enough about DLO that they gave up a pretty sizeable return (eat Moz's deal, give us Brook/1st rounder).

If Moz's deal didn't exist, safe to say there's a better chance DLO or Jules are still Lakers. But someone worthwhile had to be attached to die for Moz's deal.


I get what you’re saying fully. But even if there was no Mozgov or Deng contracts, Russell was 100% gone. Obviously it’s pure speculation that can’t be proven, but I am certain of this. They didn’t want him at all. I’m not saying they made the wrong decision at all. It’ll work out fine for the Lakers. I’m just saying there kinda were made up as soon as they stepped in February. They would wax poetic about everyone except Russell.

Also, the Nets got rid of Mozgov this summer without giving up anything really.
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After another full year of salary was off the books.

They had to eat Dwight's deal and buy him out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject:

16/3/3 at Half time against Memphis. 6-10, 2-4 from 3P. 3 TOs.

Nets will keep him imo. Dinwiddie is a great option on that contract, but is older and closer to his ceiling imo. DLO could easily be a PG who averages 8-9 assists in coming years while also being a volume scorer. I don't think Nets see Dinwiddie as a starter and NBA has so many great offensive PGs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject:

some incredible basketball bein played by this young man folks
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject:

I believe this is the first time Russell has had b2b games with double doubles and of the 20/10 variety no less. 23/4/10/1 in another W
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject:

18/6/4 averages. Wouldn’t mind that kind of production.
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18/6/4 averages. Wouldn’t mind that kind of production.

Give Ingram and Ball another year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject:

Don't see a Dawkins vid up yet, but here's HOH highlights from today:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
MJST wrote:
The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

Also, young guys do tend to get better with time.


I was addressing the notion that many of the same people who now think keeping DLO/Jules would be a good thing may have felt the opposite when they were actually here.

Ironically, you add DLO and Lonzo's skills together and you have an all star PG.

Add Jules's physicality and tenaciousness into BI and you've got a pretty awesome forward.


I was hoping to see these things when the Lakers drafted Ball/acquired LeBron:

DLo's halfcourt PG skills and shooting blending with Zo's transition PG skills and attentiveness for the ball. DLo places Zo in more off-ball situations where it seemed like he did well in back in UCLA (albeit based on highlights) and Zo can help to recover whenever DLo gets a little sloppy with the ball or D, plus DLo gives Zo an decent outside threat in transition plays.

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LeBron and Randle sucking in the D allowing Ingram the freedom to use his best attribute - his length - to get to the basket. Ingram's role as a scorer becomes much easier. Perhaps you even could use this to experiment on his PnR game a bit.

Everyone is complemented well here, and it's such a shame none of this was able to happen. However, I strongly believe the FO doesn't care that much about team development until they get their 2nd star.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:50 am    Post subject:

Without Moz/Deng perhaps we could of gotten a better return for the Dlo trade assuming the FO wanted him gone regardless.

I feel that the trade was good for him as Hollywood was a distraction and the trade was a good change of scenery.
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