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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:25 pm    Post subject:

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What kind of contract will he get this offseason?


That’s an interesting question. Dinwiddie has been their closer for most of the season. Russell is going to want 20+, but his play hasn’t warranted that and I’d think the Nets would want him to take something comparable to Dinwidde’s extension, which would be pretty good value for the Nets for Dlo who still has room to improve. His cap hold is going to interfere with their two max plan this summer, so they’re going to want to resolve that situation ASAP during the summer which means they won’t want to play the RFA game, I’d think.
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DLO will get a near max offer from the Suns to be with his BFF Devin Booker.

Worst defensive backcourt ever, but DLO/Booker/???/Zion/Ayton sounds kinda fun.
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Rodion Kurucs is impressive. He is steal of the draft and is picked at 40th.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject:

mans was dragging the corpses of the starting lineup out there today
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DLO will get a near max offer from the Suns to be with his BFF Devin Booker.

Worst defensive backcourt ever, but DLO/Booker/???/Zion/Ayton sounds kinda fun.

Didn't Lou Will and JC start in the same backcourt for a few games?
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Rodion Kurucs is impressive. He is steal of the draft and is picked at 40th.

There will be a lot of "steals" in this draft given its depth, but I love that kid's instincts on both ends of the floor. There's some Kirilenko Light in him.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject:

Why is DLO 'resting' today?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject:

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Why is DLO 'resting' today?

He's either being traded tomorrow or the Nets training staff is being overly cautious. They like to do that.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:19 pm    Post subject:

To Nets

Otto Porter
Jeff Green

To Wizards

Allen Crabbe
Josh Jackson
Knicks 2019 2nd (via Nets)

To Suns

D'Angelo Russell
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject:

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Some people have an irrational dislike of Russell. I have never seen anything like it for such a young player who does not exhibit bad behavior on or off the court. For 14 pages we managed to avoid the worst of the bs that destroyed the previous thread. There is the occasional skirmish, but it is mostly basketball related discussion. Nobody here has to justify their reasons for wanting to discuss Russell in a thread created for that purpose and located in the appropriate sub-forum. If there are valid questions or concerns regarding the way things are being moderated, there is a forum for user feedback and mods can be private messaged.

Well stated. He's such an odd lightening rod of stark opinions. Even Nets fans are now polarized into trade DLo/pay DLo camps that are pretty vicious.

Maybe it's that he's "slow" in a sport that fans expect to be fast?


For me it’s his efficiency and how consistently he’s putting up quality scoring nights. I really don’t know how he should be paid and wouldn’t want to be making that decision. How impactful would he be this season on a good team?


somewhere between "very" and "incredibly"


Being slow and inconsistent are related in DLO's case. He cant just rely on dunks to get easy points and has to rely on his jumper mostly.

However, what impresses me about DLO is how he has slowly improved every year. He now has less bad games and more big games. Even in the games where he doesnt score much, he usually does well assist wise. Beside the numbers, he has become very good at running an offense.

He already would be an asset on a great team, but once he figures out how to get himself going on his off nights, he would be very special on any team.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Some people have an irrational dislike of Russell. I have never seen anything like it for such a young player who does not exhibit bad behavior on or off the court. For 14 pages we managed to avoid the worst of the bs that destroyed the previous thread. There is the occasional skirmish, but it is mostly basketball related discussion. Nobody here has to justify their reasons for wanting to discuss Russell in a thread created for that purpose and located in the appropriate sub-forum. If there are valid questions or concerns regarding the way things are being moderated, there is a forum for user feedback and mods can be private messaged.

Well stated. He's such an odd lightening rod of stark opinions. Even Nets fans are now polarized into trade DLo/pay DLo camps that are pretty vicious.

Maybe it's that he's "slow" in a sport that fans expect to be fast?


For me it’s his efficiency and how consistently he’s putting up quality scoring nights. I really don’t know how he should be paid and wouldn’t want to be making that decision. How impactful would he be this season on a good team?


somewhere between "very" and "incredibly"


I agree.

Maybe in an alternative universe where Durant Kawhi and Klay stay put in the off-season the Lakers could use that extra 35M they have freed up to bring Randle and Russell back

Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
Brandon Ingram
LeBron James
Julius Randle



Dream team, too bad life happened


The irony would be that the money spent would be a result of trading them and letting them go lol
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject:

foshowtime wrote:
anpherknee wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Some people have an irrational dislike of Russell. I have never seen anything like it for such a young player who does not exhibit bad behavior on or off the court. For 14 pages we managed to avoid the worst of the bs that destroyed the previous thread. There is the occasional skirmish, but it is mostly basketball related discussion. Nobody here has to justify their reasons for wanting to discuss Russell in a thread created for that purpose and located in the appropriate sub-forum. If there are valid questions or concerns regarding the way things are being moderated, there is a forum for user feedback and mods can be private messaged.

Well stated. He's such an odd lightening rod of stark opinions. Even Nets fans are now polarized into trade DLo/pay DLo camps that are pretty vicious.

Maybe it's that he's "slow" in a sport that fans expect to be fast?


For me it’s his efficiency and how consistently he’s putting up quality scoring nights. I really don’t know how he should be paid and wouldn’t want to be making that decision. How impactful would he be this season on a good team?


somewhere between "very" and "incredibly"


Being slow and inconsistent are related in DLO's case. He cant just rely on dunks to get easy points and has to rely on his jumper mostly.

However, what impresses me about DLO is how he has slowly improved every year. He now has less bad games and more big games. Even in the games where he doesnt score much, he usually does well assist wise. Beside the numbers, he has become very good at running an offense.

He already would be an asset on a great team, but once he figures out how to get himself going on his off nights, he would be very special on any team.


He’s super fun to watch for me because of how he gets to his spots without the use of athleticism. For all the takes by Laker fans about how his work ethic is awful, I don’t see how a guy this unathletic got to be this skilled and ended up in the NBA. He barely gets off the floor when he jumps.

His development was always going to be slower than most. He’s relying purely on skill. It’s a matter of can he become an elite three point shooter to offset his lack of athletic ability. He’s got to become a 40% three point shooter to be an all star type player.

His vision is also super fun to watch. He makes plays not many people can. However, this leads to a few very mind numbing stupid plays as well.

He needs to tighten up that handle (which he’s improved on) and become and elite shooter.

He’s very polarizing and I can see why. One side thinks he’s tapped out another side thinks his skill level will just improve. We’ll see.

I’m also not sure where he fits within Brooklyn. They did not expect Dinwiddie to be this good, but he’s really good. Levert is also very good. They may build with those two guys and let Dlo go.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:36 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Why is DLO 'resting' today?

He's either being traded tomorrow or the Nets training staff is being overly cautious. They like to do that.


overly cautious of what? a recent/old injury?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:53 am    Post subject:

This was the third game in four days. The tipoff was less than 24 hours after the previous game. Protecting them from dead legs is my best guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Why is DLO 'resting' today?

He's either being traded tomorrow or the Nets training staff is being overly cautious. They like to do that.


overly cautious of what? a recent/old injury?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject:

22/13 in the win against Pelicans. Many of his detractors doubted he could be a good playmaker as his assists numbers were low with the Lakers. But that passing ability we saw in college is starting to translate in the NBA.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject:

mans had 3 shots rim out today

and had 3 against the clock heave type shots

this coulda been a GAME for that young man folks

BUT ALAS

we shall have to settle for 22/13

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:23 pm    Post subject:

22/5/13/2/1 and only 1 turnover. Here are the highlights:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:48 pm    Post subject:

The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:34 am    Post subject:

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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.
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Vancouver Fan wrote:
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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MJST wrote:
The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.


arguably?
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.


arguably?


I'm sure you were saying the complete opposite a year ago...
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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The Nets are 10-3 in their last 13, and one of those losses, Russell didn't play.
Not bad for a (bleep) player huh? Dude has been balling this season. I like his improvements in almost all aspects of his game.


Arguably, DLO/Jules should have been kept over some of the guys on this team.

We can blame the MozDeng contracts.


Yup. Still can't fathom why anyone would want to pay them 16-17m/year for 4 years. What a terrible crippling decision for the franchise.
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