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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject:

People were so adamant in the off season that Lonzo would get back to his historic 70% pre-nba freethrow shooting percentage yet he is still at 45%. This team is embarrassingly poor at the line.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:41 pm    Post subject:

It's the pace. That's why LBJ's free throw % is down 5%. It's not like Luke is teaching everyone how to not make free throws at practice.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:25 am    Post subject:

I thought they don't give a crap anymore and dropped outta the race. So last is a pleasant surprise. Good job Lakers!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:20 am    Post subject:

They are losing games for one reason - they can't make a free throw!

69.2% as a team.

The "King" at 67.9% - WTF people say he is #1/#2 player of all time - give me a fu*king break.

Full time players getting paid millions.

Absolutely pathetic.

I find it hard to even watch their games anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:27 am    Post subject:

As far as I can tell, the Lakers aren't working with the players to improve their shooting form so anytime they do free throw drills, it just enforces bad habits.

The longer they just keep this up, the harder it is going to be to correct.

Just a continued bad move by not having a shooting coach for a team that really does need one.

EDIT: coaching recently helped perennial bottom of the heap free throw shooter Deandre Jordan who is shooting about 28%!!!! higher this year than his career average (73.5% vs 45.6%)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:41 am    Post subject:

Darthlaker wrote:
They are losing games for one reason - they can't make a free throw!

69.2% as a team.

The "King" at 67.9% - WTF people say he is #1/#2 player of all time - give me a fu*king break.

Full time players getting paid millions.

Absolutely pathetic.

I find it hard to even watch their games anymore.


Agreed 100% besides I’ll always watch the games when I can.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:45 am    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
As far as I can tell, the Lakers aren't working with the players to improve their shooting form so anytime they do free throw drills, it just enforces bad habits.

The longer they just keep this up, the harder it is going to be to correct.

Just a continued bad move by not having a shooting coach for a team that really does need one.

EDIT: coaching recently helped perennial bottom of the heap free throw shooter Deandre Jordan who is shooting about 28%!!!! higher this year than his career average (73.5% vs 45.6%)


CANNOT blame this on coaches. There is no excuse for these guys to not figure it by themselves or reach out to someone who can.

Good for DAJ tho btw that’s impressive.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

PartyMan wrote:
Staccatos wrote:
As far as I can tell, the Lakers aren't working with the players to improve their shooting form so anytime they do free throw drills, it just enforces bad habits.

The longer they just keep this up, the harder it is going to be to correct.

Just a continued bad move by not having a shooting coach for a team that really does need one.

EDIT: coaching recently helped perennial bottom of the heap free throw shooter Deandre Jordan who is shooting about 28%!!!! higher this year than his career average (73.5% vs 45.6%)


CANNOT blame this on coaches. There is no excuse for these guys to not figure it by themselves or reach out to someone who can.

Good for DAJ tho btw that’s impressive.


I'm sorry but your "figure it out themselves approach" isn't working. Coaching and management is there for a reason. They are supposed to work with the players on improving.

Yeah in extraordinary circumstances a player can just figure it out on their own. But you may notice that there aren't many Kobe Bryant's out there.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject:

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I expect Lonzo, Hart, Ingram and Kuzma to all improve on their next team.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
As far as I can tell, the Lakers aren't working with the players to improve their shooting form so anytime they do free throw drills, it just enforces bad habits.

The longer they just keep this up, the harder it is going to be to correct.

Just a continued bad move by not having a shooting coach for a team that really does need one.

EDIT: coaching recently helped perennial bottom of the heap free throw shooter Deandre Jordan who is shooting about 28%!!!! higher this year than his career average (73.5% vs 45.6%)


Unfortunately have to agree. This organization doesn't seem to think it's a priority.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject:

@NBALakersNation offered up free League Pass to those who sent videos of making 10 FTs in a row. These kids are better FT shooters than anyone on the Lakers

https://twitter.com/nbalakersnation/status/1075541764834942977?s=21

https://twitter.com/nbalakersnation/status/1075542075985211392?s=21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject:

I blame Shaq.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:28 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Our atrocious free throw shooting has already cost us 6-7 games now. This will haunt us come playoff time. C ould be difference between 2nd round exit and WCF.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:24 pm    Post subject:

I think this is a ploy so the league will use the Hack-a-Laker tactic... and then boom, we hit all our free throws.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Our atrocious free throw shooting has already cost us 6-7 games now. This will haunt us come playoff time. C ould be difference between 2nd round exit and WCF.


With the way things are going, kind of concerned we might not even make it.

Can’t afford any injury to Lebron and to a lesser extent Rondo. If Lebron misses more than 3-5 games, we are in big trouble.

In foul situations, KCP and Kuzma are the 2 that should have the ball. The others need to stay out of the way until they can make (bleep) FTs at over 80%.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:35 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
It's the pace. That's why LBJ's free throw % is down 5%. It's not like Luke is teaching everyone how to not make free throws at practice.


What does the pace have to do with free throw percentage?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:03 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Our atrocious free throw shooting has already cost us 6-7 games now. This will haunt us come playoff time. C ould be difference between 2nd round exit and WCF.


With the way things are going, kind of concerned we might not even make it.

Can’t afford any injury to Lebron and to a lesser extent Rondo. If Lebron misses more than 3-5 games, we are in big trouble.

In foul situations, KCP and Kuzma are the 2 that should have the ball. The others need to stay out of the way until they can make (bleep) FTs at over 80%.


Lol, I didn't even think of that.

Why did Ingram end up with the ball after they got the rebound and knew they were going to foul somebody?

A lot mistakes and bad plays at the end really cost them this game.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:36 am    Post subject:

Hurt us 2 games so far right?
The SAS game where Lebron failed.
And this game where BI failed.

Any others I missed?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject:

If the Lakers were hitting their free throws...they'd be in first place in the Western Conference. Think about that.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Our atrocious free throw shooting has already cost us 6-7 games now. This will haunt us come playoff time. C ould be difference between 2nd round exit and WCF.


Free throws is the reason we're not winning a playoffs series imo. Unless we're much much better but I don't see it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:45 pm    Post subject:

Give Rick Barry $10 grand to come to practice one day and teach these schlubs how to shoot the old fashioned way... or at least threaten to.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject:

We will lose every down to the wire game because opposing players know we'll miss 1 out of 2 free throws every single time. This will be a huge problem all season and it's not going to get better. We know Ingram and Lonzo and Rondo are trash free throw shooters. We know Lebron and Kuzma are not trustworthy at the line either. This is who they are.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Time to tweak the Free Throw Rules.

1. Each Made Free Throw equals One Point

2. A Bonus Point is awarded for making all free throws per trip to the line.

3. The team loses a point when all free throws are missed during a trip to the line.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Ok, so we all know free throws are losing us games. It really is strange that the Laker organization does not seem to give a dam about the issue. We need to flood all Laker forums demanding Magic and Lakers get a shooting coach and fix these guys form at the line lol. Hell I’m thinking about going to whitehouse.gov and opening a petition requesting a shooting coach for the Lakers...Sounds funny/weird but they open petitions for all sorts of crazy things and some actually get mentioned in the news (we need the word out in public to maybe get some traction on this). Imagine if we make the playoffs or finals and bad free throw shooting kills us...Damn that would be a shame. Lebron also needs a good talking to, don’t care if he’s the King, make your freaking free throws.
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