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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject:

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This is becoming a draft where I wish the Lakers had multiple 2nd round picks.

Marial Shayok
Nick Weiler-Babb
Lindell Wiggington
Talen Horten Tucker - Expected 1st round
Tyrese Halibuerton - Unsure he declares but would draft him 1st round

Jon Teske
Charles Matthews
Jordan Poole - Expected 1st
Iggy Brazdeikis - Expected 1st/Early 2nd

Cassius Winston - 2nd round

Miye Oni - Expected 2nd round, should be 1st round

Kerwin Roach - Expected 2nd

Markus Howard - Expected 2nd

Udoka Azbuike
Jarrey Foster
Zach Norvell Jr
Matisse Thybulle - Expected 2nd, should be 1st round
Cam Johnson - Expected 2nd, should be 1st round
Bruno Fernando - Expected 2nd, should be 1st round

Jalen McDaniels - Should be mid to late 1st

That's roughly 19 guys that are expected to be picks #25 and later.


Bruno was expected to go early second LAST year. But this year he’s been pretty firmly locked into 5-10 range. I think I saw him as high 3 at one point. He’s been my guy since last year and have advocated highly for him. If he’s there when we pick him, that’s my guy.


Where in the world is he anywhere 5-10?!?

I wouldn't draft him that high.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject:

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Oh noooooo. Grant Williams is WAY more skilled with the mid-range game and pivot work. I remember Jarnell, but Stokes was foul prone and his game was predicated around rebounding like Danny Fortson.

Grant Williams
Mark Aguirre
Adrian Dantley
Corliss Williamson
Danny Fortson
Jarnell Stokes


Watched Grant today. He's not a great athlete, way in between positions a shade over 6'5". He is a college star because of his pure aggression but pj washington punched him in the mouth and he didn't respond. Looked soft once he was challenged physically


Yet I get a feeling Grant may be drafted higher than PJ anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject:

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Langford, Culver, Fernando, Porter, Bol Bol

Those are my guys as of right now.

All of those names make sense to me except Langford. Do you think he'll shoot in the pros?


His form Is too good for it to not eventually come around. I’d like to get more feedback from shooting drills in individual workouts before I’d take him over the other guys. But mid first, I’ll take him and hope the jumpshot confidence comes around.


Is it? I've never seen the same shot twice from him.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject:

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Fully disagree with Barrett. The Booker comparison is a bad one. Barrett is an incredible athlete and has extremely good size and length. This means he can be a great defender. He's also an underrated passer. His upside is closer to Kobe and T-MAC. I know, comparisons to greats tend to rub people the wrong way but in terms of ceiling, those make more sense. Granted, he can end up flopping more like Wiggins but we will see. My point is, he has incredible potential.

Porter on the other hand doesn't seem made for todays NBA.


Would strongly disagree on calling Barrett and incredible athlete, or having upside closer to Tmac or Kobe.

As for Porter, his game is the most suited for the modern NBA. :shrug:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:14 pm    Post subject:

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Keldon Johnson looks noice/nasty.
Too bad he will be gone before we pick:((


Thankfully. I think he's overrated.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject:

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whatever happened to filipino Kobe?



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Mike (@) LG, what is your take on Louis King?

Do you think he is a top 20 pick?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:47 pm    Post subject:

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Fully disagree with Barrett. The Booker comparison is a bad one. Barrett is an incredible athlete and has extremely good size and length. This means he can be a great defender. He's also an underrated passer. His upside is closer to Kobe and T-MAC. I know, comparisons to greats tend to rub people the wrong way but in terms of ceiling, those make more sense. Granted, he can end up flopping more like Wiggins but we will see. My point is, he has incredible potential.

Porter on the other hand doesn't seem made for todays NBA.


Would strongly disagree on calling Barrett and incredible athlete, or having upside closer to Tmac or Kobe.

As for Porter, his game is the most suited for the modern NBA. :shrug:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG, what is your take on Louis King?

Do you think he is a top 20 pick?


Saw a couple games early in the season. Haven't watched since. I don't think he's top 60 right now.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject:

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What about that center from Texas.....Hayes. Looks promising??

The current consensus is that he'll be the first center taken. I like him, but I don't see the Lakers having the patience to develop him.


Shouldn't matter. Can't rely on a rookie for immediate impact in regards to playoffs.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:08 pm    Post subject:

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Zion

Jarrett Culver
Jontay Porter
Brandon Clarke

Bol Bol


Zion

RJ Barrett (saw the last triple double with good decision making, basically that's what I needed to see, that it was actually possible).

Jarrett Culver
Brandon Clarke
Jontay Porter

4-way-tie Cam Reddish/Ja Morant/Darius Garland/De'Andre Hunter
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject:

@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject:

Thank you Mike@ LG! I thought his style of play reminds me of Scottie Pippen.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject:

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@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:38 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Zion

Jarrett Culver
Jontay Porter
Brandon Clarke

Bol Bol


Zion

RJ Barrett (saw the last triple double with good decision making, basically that's what I needed to see, that it was actually possible).

Jarrett Culver
Brandon Clarke
Jontay Porter

4-way-tie Cam Reddish/Ja Morant/Darius Garland/De'Andre Hunter

I'll come around on Barrett I guess, but he still feels like a counting stats/poor BPM/RPM guy for his first contract, especially if he lands on a team without a clear primary initiator on it.

It's always good to overlap with you on outlier guys like Porter and Clarke.
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@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.

He seems to have deleted his Twitter account
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Thank you Mike@ LG! I thought his style of play reminds me of Scottie Pippen.


I'd like to see what you see.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:43 pm    Post subject:

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@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.

He seems to have deleted his Twitter account


News to me. I'll find out what's going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Mike@LG wrote:
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@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.

He seems to have deleted his Twitter account


News to me. I'll find out what's going on.


Probably stepping away for a bit.

He's been crunching a lot lately.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:09 pm    Post subject:

was that Obama I saw in the crowd at the Duke-UNC game?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
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@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.

He seems to have deleted his Twitter account


fwiw, he was on Sam Vecenie's podcast this week.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:11 pm    Post subject:

I am irrationally angry that Zion might be injured.
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I am irrationally angry that Zion might be injured.


they keep talking about how they have never seen anyone blow out a shoe that way.....which is weird, i have seen that happen multiple times in NBA games. Didn't Nick Young blow his out a few seasons ago?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
@Mike, you know what's up with Zwicker?


What do you mean?

There's like 20 of us in a draft chat.

He seems to have deleted his Twitter account


News to me. I'll find out what's going on.


Probably stepping away for a bit.

He's been crunching a lot lately.

The DH tome was a doozy and damn impressive. Sad to lose his Trae Young tweets for the time being.
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adkindo wrote:
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I am irrationally angry that Zion might be injured.


they keep talking about how they have never seen anyone blow out a shoe that way.....which is weird, i have seen that happen multiple times in NBA games. Didn't Nick Young blow his out a few seasons ago?

I know it happened to Ginobili once. Don't remember the Swaggy shoe pop.
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